Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

Overheal · 17-10-2019 5:34pm

Boils down to these videos don't prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt.

20Cent · 17-10-2019 5:46pm

splinter65 wrote: »

All you have to do is watch the video 20cent. The Antifa guy is shouting “save a life, kill a cop”.
Can you not see it?!?

Why are you calling him antifa?
Maybe he's a libertarian.

mynamejeff · 17-10-2019 11:22pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Might be one of those anarchist folk. Or big fans of Captain America?
We all agreed long ago any criminal activity shouldn't be tolerated so not sure where you are going. The idea all anti-fascists are scum, as you sell it, is a dead duck.

those ones sure luck like scum to me ,

and cowardly scum too

Outlaw Pete · 17-10-2019 11:56pm

20Cent wrote: »

Thought antifa were the guys in black and masks?

What video did you watch?

Using Andy ngo well known liar and grifter as a source is not a good idea.

Ah, back to the deep fakes excuse. Video is legit.

Overheal · 18-10-2019 12:11am

Picture just looks like Seal team six or some nonsense. Is that the standard though? Anyone wearing black and being a crank must be antifa?

1800_Ladladlad · 18-10-2019 1:05pm

or anyone dressed in black gathered in groups with faces covered yelling abuse and assaulting people, has just been infiltrated by the right wing to tarnish the reputation Antifa and the cumrads

James Brown · 18-10-2019 1:46pm

mynamejeff wrote: »

those ones sure luck like scum to me ,

and cowardly scum too

So could be a Proud Boy, KKK or a Republican?

ooh look, must be Antifa...

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBYiOLgDjM93ssfG4zXux-_8CPD2LaEkcCLlKiLFfunFt2xo1UFg

1800_Ladladlad · 18-10-2019 2:54pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

So could be a Proud Boy, KKK or a Republican?

ooh look, must be Antifa...

No, I think thats arlene fosters lot, the DUP

James Brown · 18-10-2019 3:06pm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

No, I think thats arlene fosters lot, the DUP

So anytime we see a lad with a swastika can we claim they're Republican party? 'Republican party scum! Look at the khaki pants!'?

Overheal · 18-10-2019 3:10pm

I saw lots of Antifa people in black this morning - head to toe, covering their faces, all rallied together for the most part at bus stops but I did see one on a riding mower trimming the lawn. Even some kids present with face coverings

Oh wait it's just cold as balls outside. Ignore.

SexBobomb · 18-10-2019 4:20pm

Overheal wrote: »

I saw lots of Antifa people in black this morning - head to toe, covering their faces, all rallied together for the most part at bus stops but I did see one on a riding mower trimming the lawn. Even some kids present with face coverings

Oh wait it's just cold as balls outside. Ignore.

Handy way to spot them is to see if they're hassling old people with walkers trying to cross the street.

James Brown · 18-10-2019 4:23pm

SexBobomb wrote: »

Handy way to spot them is to see if they're hassling old people with walkers trying to cross the street.

Never happened as you sell it. Some Canadians were protesting the right wing policies of Maxime Bernier by blockading his promo talk. They blocked an elderly woman from attending. Wrong IMO, but not as you falsely paint it.

FYI: one their families had to close their business after death threats. The old lady maybe?

SexBobomb · 18-10-2019 4:58pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Never happened as you sell it.

SexBobomb wrote: »

hassling old people with walkers trying to cross the street.

Matt Barrett wrote: »

They blocked an elderly woman from attending.

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Never happened as you sell it.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1178509709835259904

K

James Brown · 18-10-2019 5:33pm

SexBobomb wrote: »

K

hassling old people with walkers trying to cross the street.

Wasn't an antifa protest, she wasn't simply crossing the street. A few errs there in your quip.

1800_Ladladlad · 20-10-2019 4:20pm

Id says this rumble the estrogen levels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTOQGvXbZY8

Brian? · 20-10-2019 4:56pm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Id says this rumble the estrogen levels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTOQGvXbZY8

This old trope. Free speech means freedom to express ideas without punishment from the government. Not freedom to speak without any consequences.

PostWoke · 20-10-2019 11:08pm

SexBobomb wrote: »

Handy way to spot them is to see if they're hassling old people with walkers trying to cross the street.

Mmnaaah, don't think that's indicative of typical presentation of Antifa at all.

Usually defending people from assault is more like it.

biko · 23-10-2019 1:02pm

Antifa protester who attacked Trump supporter pleads guilty to assault
Campbell was arrested near the venue, a nightclub at West 50th Street and 12th Avenue on Jan. 20 2018, after he punched and choked a 56-year-old man he had followed out of the event, police said. He was one of about 80 Antifa agitators protesting the gathering.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/05/antifa-protester-who-attacked-trump-supporter-pleads-guilty-to-assault/

ohnonotgmail · 23-10-2019 1:04pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50148024

Two members of the US far-right group the Proud Boys have been jailed for four years for beating up anti-fascist activists in a fight last year.

Brian? · 23-10-2019 5:31pm

biko wrote: »

https://nypost.com/2019/10/05/antifa-protester-who-attacked-trump-supporter-pleads-guilty-to-assault/

So Anitfa are protected from the police and their actions aren't reported by the press?

Sweetemotion · 23-10-2019 8:43pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50148024

And yet, bike lock guy gets a suspended sentence.

1800_Ladladlad · 24-10-2019 6:40pm

Brian? wrote: »

Not freedom to speak without any consequences.

Cute. This is the type of bullsh*t that intolerance is made of. Those who share this sentiment would love to be the ones to choose the "consequences"? This is you trying to regulate an ideology or control speech, wanting to shut people down who do not think the same way you or the mob does. The above is an irrational talking point for irrational individuals to use when they are simply incapable of thinking for themselves, who are unable to defend or back up a point with rational arguments and not becoming emotionally involved. Every accusation lacks any credibility and is the height of petulance.

You want free speech for yourselves and not for others. Censorship does not go both ways. People who think that they are in the right and that they are morally superior to those with opposing political beliefs are the exact people who use intimidation the threat of violence to shut down events and people with opposing views. That is mob rule.

The bar for "hate speech" is set so low that you can apply it to anyone you have a disagreement with. Free speech should never be regulated. For example, if a call for action against any person/s belonging to a particular race, religion or creed, that's when it becomes a problem. If harm comes to anybody because of the call for action, then it's a major issue that must be dealt with by way of law. When you read an opinion piece or article you detest or something that goes against your values that you strongly disagree with. It's up to you to be an adult and deal with your own emotions. There are multiple examples that can be used. Hurt feelings are not a result of being harmed. That's just people being soft. To people on the left, 'hate speech' means an opinion or statement that they don't like.

James Brown · 24-10-2019 7:04pm

It's simple, for many generations we've had it all the one way, white, wealthy and male. We had slavery and then segregation. Then blacks and women got the vote. We still had segregation. It wasn't uncommon for a black man to he hung until dead, a lynching. It was often a public event. We'd the KKK and institutional racism and sexism as par for the course.

Ever so slowly things are working towards equality.

The Alt-Right, Trump and campaign against any group seeking equality as a threat to free speech or liberty is basically fear and ignorance from the privileged because as they say, equality can seem like oppression when you're privileged.

Enter the Proud Boys. A perfect example of white spoiled brats and the attempt to dismiss all anti-fascism because you can single out some criminal element.

20Cent · 24-10-2019 8:38pm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Cute. This is the type of bullsh*t that intolerance is made of. Those who share this sentiment would love to be the ones to choose the "consequences"? This is you trying to regulate an ideology or control speech, wanting to shut people down who do not think the same way you or the mob does. The above is an irrational talking point for irrational individuals to use when they are simply incapable of thinking for themselves, who are unable to defend or back up a point with rational arguments and not becoming emotionally involved. Every accusation lacks any credibility and is the height of petulance.

You want free speech for yourselves and not for others. Censorship does not go both ways. People who think that they are in the right and that they are morally superior to those with opposing political beliefs are the exact people who use intimidation the threat of violence to shut down events and people with opposing views. That is mob rule. You are conflating this with

The bar for "hate speech" is set so low that you can apply it to anyone you have a disagreement with. Free speech should never be regulated. For example, if a call for action against any person/s belonging to a particular race, religion or creed, that's when it becomes a problem. If harm comes to anybody because of the call for action, then it's a major issue that must be dealt with by way of law. When you read an opinion piece or article you detest or something that goes against your values that you strongly disagree with. It's up to you to be an adult and deal with your own emotions. There are multiple examples that can be used. Hurt feelings are not a result of being harmed. That's just people being soft. To people on the left, 'hate speech' means an opinion or statement that they don't like.

What the right are complaining about is that they can't bully minorities unchallenged anymore and by unchallenged I mean tweets or comments. Poor dears imagine if they experienced real discrimination.

Overheal · 24-10-2019 8:51pm

The sort of crap that Turning Point USA is pushing on Facebook:

And then I wonder why the people on this thread behave as they do :rolleyes:

Sweetemotion · 24-10-2019 9:38pm

Overheal wrote: »

The sort of crap that Turning Point USA is pushing on Facebook:

And then I wonder why the people on this thread behave as they do :rolleyes:

I'd say no one on this thread has ever looked at Turning Point USA Facebook page apart from you.

Overheal · 24-10-2019 9:46pm

Sweetemotion wrote: »

I'd say no one on this thread has ever looked at Turning Point USA Facebook page apart from you.

Actually I haven’t. The photo is viral.

But is this supposed to detract from the photo? This surely must be the crap people like you see

Sweetemotion · 24-10-2019 9:53pm

Overheal wrote: »

Actually I haven’t. The photo is viral.

But is this supposed to detract from the photo? This surely must be the crap people like you see

Yeah, that's exactly what I see. :rolleyes:

1800_Ladladlad · 24-10-2019 9:57pm

20Cent wrote: »

What the right are complaining about is that they can't bully minorities unchallenged anymore and by unchallenged I mean tweets or comments. Poor dears imagine if they experienced real discrimination.

OMG a victim has never responded to me before.

1800_Ladladlad · 02-11-2019 2:44pm

TBH, the dreg didn't get half of what he deserves. As you can see in the videos of that thread, one of many assaulting individuals with weapons. More examples need to be made of these degenerates. Im sure their cummrads will come to their defense on here.........."how do you know that's antifia"......" everybody wears black" ........ "there are many people un employed and living at home with mammy"

I can guarantee he/she/it won't be so tough in prison. Enjoy getting rag-dolled.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1190451153927995397

Overheal · 02-11-2019 3:07pm

Ah yes Andy also posted up some more theater the other night saying he was terrorized by his troupe of friends trick or treaters in Andy Ngo masks - that lad has some ego

Outlaw Pete · 02-11-2019 4:11pm

Notice almost none of the mainstream media are reporting on this Antifa scum getting six years.

New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC etc etc all ran numerous stories about the Proud Boy's joke of a sentence, but yet appear to be looking the other way on this surprise surprise.

Guess such brutal images of a man with his head split open are not something they want associated with Antifa for some reason.

1800_Ladladlad · 02-11-2019 5:19pm

Overheal wrote: »

Ah yes Andy also posted up some more theater the other night saying he was terrorized by his troupe of friends trick or treaters in Andy Ngo masks - that lad has some ego

That's irrelevant and you are reaching! I don't see how that has anything to do with an Antifa criminal, who has been found guilty of second-degree assault, who has been sentenced, and a claim made by a person on twitter who you are partial towards. Do you disagree with the ruling because of the person that shared it? Does it conflict with your political beliefs and support for the criminal activity carried out by a mob? Or is it to do with the fact that the actions by the guilty party have been convicted in a court of law and that this will act as a precedent to any further gang activity?

I wouldn't put it past Antifa to make a martyr of the guilty muppet. I can only imagine them now: "It was for the cause.", "Our fallen cumrade's sacrifice will not be in vain" durp.

20Cent · 02-11-2019 7:27pm

Overheal wrote: »

Ah yes Andy also posted up some more theater the other night saying he was terrorized by his troupe of friends trick or treaters in Andy Ngo masks - that lad has some ego

It's the grift that keeps on giving.
He must be loaded with cash from suckers by now.

Outlaw Pete · 02-11-2019 7:32pm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

I don't see how that has anything to do with an Antifa criminal..

It's classic deflection. They are well aware of the what they are doing too.

Overheal · 02-11-2019 7:33pm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

That's irrelevant and you are reaching! I don't see how that has anything to do with an Antifa criminal, who has been found guilty of second-degree assault, who has been sentenced, and a claim made by a person on twitter who you are partial towards. Do you disagree with the ruling because of the person that shared it? Does it conflict with your political beliefs and support for the criminal activity carried out by a mob? Or is it to do with the fact that the actions by the guilty party have been convicted in a court of law and that this will act as a precedent to any further gang activity?

I wouldn't put it past Antifa to make a martyr of the guilty muppet. I can only imagine them now: "It was for the cause.", "Our fallen cumrade's sacrifice will not be in vain" durp.

What’s irrelevant about Andy Ngo news in this thread where he’s been a center attraction? I don’t get your indignation sir

Outlaw Pete · 02-11-2019 7:55pm

Oh come now ..

The tweet said an Antifa member (Gage Halupowski) was sentenced to nearly 6 years in prison for striking a man on the head from behind with a baton during a riot and that his lawyer said the sentence was too severe and what was your response to this news? To have a go at Andy Ngo. Despite him not even having expressed an opinion in the tweet. He merely relayed the news and linked to the source. So why have a go at him in that instance if it wasn't pure deflection?

Overheal · 02-11-2019 8:21pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Oh come now ..

The tweet said an Antifa member (Gage Halupowski) was sentenced to nearly 6 years in prison for striking a man on the head from behind with a baton during a riot and that his lawyer said the sentence was too severe and what was your response to this news? To have a go at Andy Ngo. Despite him not even having expressed an opinion in the tweet. He merely relayed the news and linked to the source. So why have a go at him in that instance if it wasn't pure deflection?

Oh come on now...

How is it not constructive to mention that Andy Ngo had also just been in the news as recently as Wednesday? As long as we were bumping the thread for the sake of an Andy Ngo related thing. You’re trying to exert Stalin-esque control over this thread now? Do I have to get pre-approval from you before I can post on current affairs and my own humble opinion? Who is on your committee?

1800_Ladladlad · 02-11-2019 8:40pm

Overheal wrote: »

What’s irrelevant about Andy Ngo news in this thread where he’s been a center attraction? I don’t get your indignation sir

It's evidently clear that you don't. Your only response to my post regarding a member of Antifa being convicted, on a thread that is specifically relating to Antifa, you go on about that lad? Really?? People deflect when they are butthurt.

1800_Ladladlad · 02-11-2019 8:50pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

It's classic deflection. They are well aware of the what they are doing too.

Natural selection.

Danzy · 02-11-2019 9:29pm

See they attacked another Jewish man recently.

Beasty · 02-11-2019 9:40pm

Guys

Let's keep the conversation civil. There are a relatively small number of posters keeping this thread active, but if anyone is concerned about it being "bumped" a simple solution is not to respond. Posters can quickly get tired of preaching to the converted (or indeed talking to themselves). If you keep posting in the thread yourself you clearly still view it as an ongoing relevant topic

Thanking you all (well all half dozen or so of you) in anticipation

Outlaw Pete · 02-11-2019 10:54pm

Overheal wrote: »

As long as we were bumping the thread for the sake of an Andy Ngo related thing.

A member of Antifa has just been jailed for six years for splitting a man's head open in an unprovoked attack and you're calling that "an Andy Ngo related thing" Seriously?

Brings to mind Omar and her "some people did something" comment when referring to 911.

Do I have to get pre-approval from you before I can post on current affairs and my own humble opinion?

You didn't post your "own humble opinion" about what was posted though, that's the point. You completely ignored the points the user made and also the content of the tweet he posted, before then needlessly having yet another pop at Andy Ngo. Makes no sense.

Let me put it like this: You and others have been defending Antifa since this thread started and every time someone posts clear evidence that these people are nothing but violent scum, excuses are made for them, or it's said it isn't really them as any group of people can dress in black (as has been happening lately).

Sooner or later the excuses have to stop and it's time to accept that Antifa are not the anti-fascist group that they present themselves to be and which others portray them as. They are violent thugs and society has finally run out of patience with them, thankfully. They are no more noble than than those on the far right who use violence as a means to a political end.

Antifa Domestic Terrorist Gets Six Year Prison Sentence For Brutal Baton Attack

Antifa thug Gage Halupowski has been sentenced to six years in prison after beating a man’s head with a baton during a protest in Portland earlier in the year.

Halupowski took a deal and pleaded guilty to one count of Assault in the Second Degree, while avoiding other charges that included Unlawful Use Of A Weapon, Interfering With A Peace Officer, and Attempting To Commit A Class C Felony. His jail booking profile also lists Resisting Arrest and Attempting To Assault A Police Officer..

It was an absolutely brutal and unprovoked attack given that the guy was coming to another's aid who was also being attacked with batons and sticks.

Some footage from the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dqMTTp5uYM

https://twitter.com/ThePortlandTrib/status/1145103473010184193

Have to say fair play to Michelle Malkin, one of the few blue ticks on Twitter who has been with the story from the start (original tweet below) and tweeted about the sentencing too (also below).

https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1145496284746452992

https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1190452905008074753

I'll never understand how anyone can defend these people or struggle to condemn their violence tbh.

Overheal · 03-11-2019 1:37am

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

A member of Antifa has just been jailed for six years for splitting a man's head open in an unprovoked attack and you're calling that "an Andy Ngo related thing" Seriously?

Brings to mind Omar and her "some people did something" comment when referring to 911.

You didn't post your "own humble opinion" about what was posted though, that's the point. You completely ignored the points the user made and also the content of the tweet he posted, before then needlessly having yet another pop at Andy Ngo. Makes no sense.

Let me put it like this: You and others have been defending Antifa since this thread started and every time someone posts clear evidence that these people are nothing but violent scum, excuses are made for them, or it's said it isn't really them as any group of people can dress in black (as has been happening lately).

Sooner or later the excuses have to stop and it's time to accept that Antifa are not the anti-fascist group that they present themselves to be and which others portray them as. They are violent thugs and society has finally run out of patience with them, thankfully. They are no more noble than than those on the far right who use violence as a means to a political end.

It was an absolutely brutal and unprovoked attack given that the guy was coming to another's aid who was also being attacked with batons and sticks.

Some footage from the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dqMTTp5uYM

https://twitter.com/ThePortlandTrib/status/1145103473010184193

Have to say fair play to Michelle Malkin, one of the few blue ticks on Twitter who has been with the story from the start (original tweet below) and tweeted about the sentencing too (also below).

https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1145496284746452992

https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1190452905008074753

I'll never understand how anyone can defend these people or struggle to condemn their violence tbh.

“Bla bla bla bla bla bla how does a tweet from Andy Ngo give you the right to mention Andy Ngo?! *Clutch pears*”

Overheal · 03-11-2019 1:38am

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

It's evidently clear that you don't. Your only response to my post regarding a member of Antifa being convicted, on a thread that is specifically relating to Antifa, you go on about that lad? Really?? People deflect when they are butthurt.

The projection of this post is astonishing, you’re absolutely Butthurt I haven’t said a word in my response about the attack (make me?). You’re absolutely Butthurt I DARED to mention Andy Ngo being Butthurt that his friends wore Andy Ngo masks to make a Halloween video on his lawn. Pound sand my dude, I don’t have to respond to your post in any special way. Now you may never now whether I condemn violence or not oh no the vapors.

p1akuw47h5r3it · 03-11-2019 6:12pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

A member of Antifa has just been jailed for six years for splitting a man's head open in an unprovoked attack and you're calling that "an Andy Ngo related thing" Seriously?

Brings to mind Omar and her "some people did something" comment when referring to 911.

You didn't post your "own humble opinion" about what was posted though, that's the point. You completely ignored the points the user made and also the content of the tweet he posted, before then needlessly having yet another pop at Andy Ngo. Makes no sense.

Let me put it like this: You and others have been defending Antifa since this thread started and every time someone posts clear evidence that these people are nothing but violent scum, excuses are made for them, or it's said it isn't really them as any group of people can dress in black (as has been happening lately).

Sooner or later the excuses have to stop and it's time to accept that Antifa are not the anti-fascist group that they present themselves to be and which others portray them as. They are violent thugs and society has finally run out of patience with them, thankfully. They are no more noble than than those on the far right who use violence as a means to a political end.

It was an absolutely brutal and unprovoked attack given that the guy was coming to another's aid who was also being attacked with batons and sticks.

Some footage from the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dqMTTp5uYM

https://twitter.com/ThePortlandTrib/status/1145103473010184193

Have to say fair play to Michelle Malkin, one of the few blue ticks on Twitter who has been with the story from the start (original tweet below) and tweeted about the sentencing too (also below).

https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1145496284746452992

https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1190452905008074753

I'll never understand how anyone can defend these people or struggle to condemn their violence tbh.

"It wasn't anti-fa"

"but but anti-fa isn't a group"

"Andy Ngo is a grifter"

****ing disgusting attack. Shame on those that continually defend this group.

PostWoke · 03-11-2019 6:31pm

Danzy wrote: »

See they attacked another Jewish man recently.

lmfao the indigenous lark going on in here.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I'll never understand how anyone can defend these people or struggle to condemn their violence tbh.

I'll give you a clue as to why. This man is the 0.00001%, who's actions are his own. They're not mandated by any authority within Antifa, not that really is one. They're utilizing the same tactics as anonymous and the alt-right; decentralization and no accountability beyond the individual or individuals, and you only have yourselves to blame.

So is this thread where all the alt-righters hang out? lmfao.

Danzy · 03-11-2019 6:32pm

PostWoke wrote: »

lmfao the indigenous lark going on in here.

I'll give you a clue as to why. This man is the 0.00001%, who's actions are his own.

So is this thread where all the alt-righters hang out? lmfao.

?

PostWoke · 03-11-2019 6:34pm

Overheal wrote: »

The projection of this post is astonishing, you’re absolutely Butthurt I haven’t said a word in my response about the attack (make me?). You’re absolutely Butthurt I DARED to mention Andy Ngo being Butthurt that his friends wore Andy Ngo masks to make a Halloween video on his lawn. Pound sand my dude, I don’t have to respond to your post in any special way. Now you may never now whether I condemn violence or not oh no the vapors.

Yikes, the waves of second hand embarrassment reading this post. 'You can't make me so nuuuuyyyyhhh'. Very mature.

Overheal · 03-11-2019 6:37pm

DanDan6592 wrote: »

"It wasn't anti-fa"

"but but anti-fa isn't a group"

"Andy Ngo is a grifter"

****ing disgusting attack. Shame on those that continually defend this group.

But you know it’s not a group.

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