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People referring to you as 'him' or 'her' while present

  • 16-06-2019 1:31am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭


    Does it annoy you when people refer to you this way when you're are present? Sometimes it can seem more rude than others. I came across this a few times recently and it's kind of annoying.

    You can see Russell Brand calling someone out about this from 5:04 onwards. I know it's Russell Brand, but just watch that part. He later corrects her on this at 6:07.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynUjo99Gzbk


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Does it annoy you when people refer to you this way when you're are present? Sometimes it can seem more rude than others. I came across this a few times recently and it's kind of annoying.

    You can see Russell Brand calling someone out about this from 5:04 onwards. I know it's Russell Brand, but just watch that part. He later corrects her on this at 6:07.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynUjo99Gzbk


    Are you him or her?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Does it annoy you when people refer to you this way when you're are present? Sometimes it can seem more rude than others. I came across this a few times recently and it's kind of annoying.

    You can see Russell Brand calling someone out about this from 5:04 onwards. I know it's Russell Brand, but just watch that part. He later corrects her on this at 6:07.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynUjo99Gzbk

    When human relations gets like this its time to withdraw in spirit and head on to your happy place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    "I helped him"

    "Rude fecker..."

    "Wut?!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    Russell brand........HIM HES a cu nt.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


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    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭up for anything


    It was drummed into us as children that it's very rude not to use someone's name when they are present. If I heard, "Who is she/he? The cat's mother?" once, I heard it a million times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,618 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    People need to relax, if I wanted to be rude about you, saying “him or her” wouldn’t be my approach.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    I like that thing blokey English blokes do when their friend turns up somewhere and they say "Here he is!".


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You're too delicate for this world, it might be time to inhabit another one. Godspeed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭wetlandsboy


    I’ve noticed a lot of Americans tend to have this habit. Very rude and disrespectful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭budgie412


    Ah, it's yourself


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    More workplace problems, OP? Did yer one who smokes or yer man that drinks Pepsi or yer one who talked about the radio do this? Or an entirely new person?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    _Brian wrote: »
    if I wanted to be rude about you, saying “him or her” wouldn’t be my approach.
    I never said it was deliberate rudeness.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    More workplace problems, OP? Did yer one who smokes or yer man that drinks Pepsi or yer one who talked about the radio do this? Or an entirely new person?
    An entirely new person.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    _Brian wrote: »
    People need to relax
    Then how come no one acted as if Russell Brand was over-reacting?? In fact, she completely backed down.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Wibbs wrote: »
    tumblr_lvl222f4KU1qkafjfo1_400.jpg
    Troll and a bully you are.

    Can we expect a long winded rant about your testosterone levels now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Troll and a bully you are.

    Can we expect a long winded rant about your testosterone levels now.

    What do you work at ?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    It seems a trivial thing to get worked up about. Just as long as they've stopped pushing that ze bolloxs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    ze bolloxs.
    What?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    How did I guess that you were the person who started the thread on the canteen comments...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Misplaced accusations are like antibiotics.
    Eventually they stop working and whose fault was it?
    The person using it when it wasn't necessary.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    What?

    A non gender specific pronoun, ze.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    They/Them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    An entirely new person.

    At work?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    At work?
    No


  • Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭Garibaldi?


    The kids who were repeatedly corrected for this are now grandparents. Old habits die hard. They instantly notice when another breaches this old and strange taboo, whatever its origin. There is no inherent offence in the practice.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Troll and a bully you are.

    Can we expect a long winded rant about your testosterone levels now.
    Ohhh nerve touched and yet another rereg with it. BTW calling "troll" and "bully" just because someone reckons you come across as odd as two left feet hardly cuts it, but it's a handy little victim call, if stupendously clunky. Both show even less normal social calibration.

    I'd have once called "troll" myself, but you just come across as an unsocialised adult, with seemingly no idea about how social interactions work and get angry about it rather than y'know getting out of your solipsistic headspace and letting these non events go. Then again that seems to be your problem, discerning the difference between non events and real.

    Opening posts like yours just come across as odd and WTF? when read by Relatively normal people™ and because of that Relatively normal people™ aren't going to be able to give you much useful advice. It's a different more developed social language they work with and they'll likely respond with the lulz. At best you might get sympathy from others who are similar to you, but that tends to lead to reinforcing the existing worldview. Neither types of reply are much use in navigating this into the future.

    Therapy might be an option?

    There you go, long winded rant. And I can hear my beard growing. Happy?

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Garibaldi? wrote: »
    The kids who were repeatedly corrected for this are now grandparents. Old habits die hard. They instantly notice when another breaches this old and strange taboo, whatever its origin. There is no inherent offence in the practice.
    Russell Brand is not from that generation.

    His reaction at 5:07 is quite extreme. And it's quite extreme for a reason. Would he have come across as charismatic if he just sat there and nothing while she started talking about him as if he wasn't there? Unless of course you're saying Russell Brand has poor social skills?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Oh sweet....

    Here we go again.


    I-feel-so-awkward.gif?resize=894%2C463&ssl=1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Russell Brand is not from that generation.

    His reaction at 5:07 is quite extreme. And it's quite extreme for a reason. Would he have come across as charismatic if he just sat there and nothing while she started talking about him as if he wasn't there? Unless of course you're saying Russell Brand has poor social skills?

    He's a prize loo laa. Hardly a shining example of any kind of a role model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    ..I honestly don’t mind as long as it’s followed by majesty.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Ohhh nerve touched and yet another rereg with it. BTW calling "troll" and "bully" just because someone reckons you come across as odd as two left feet hardly cuts it, but it's a handy little victim call, if stupendously clunky. Both show even less normal social calibration.

    I'd have once called "troll" myself, but you just come across as an unsocialised adult, with seemingly no idea about how social interactions work and get angry about it rather than y'know getting out of your solipsistic headspace and letting these non events go. Then again that seems to be your problem, discerning the difference between non events and real.

    Opening posts like yours just come across as odd and WTF? when read by Relatively normal people™ and because of that Relatively normal people™ aren't going to be able to give you much useful advice. It's a different more developed social language they work with and they'll likely respond with the lulz. At best you might get sympathy from others who are similar to you, but that tends to lead to reinforcing the existing worldview. Neither types of reply are much use in navigating this into the future.

    Therapy might be an option?

    There you go, long winded rant. And I can hear my beard growing. Happy?
    Drop your high minded talk. You only use it as a way of avoiding the question of the thread... just like everyone else. If you've nothing to say, then don't post.

    Or maybe I should give you a badge of honour for being 'normal'. Maybe Russell Brand should just cop on and just be more normal. Maybe he shouldn't have called out the host and ignored the very thought that crossed his mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Russell Brand is not from that generation.

    His reaction at 5:07 is quite extreme. And it's quite extreme for a reason. Would he have come across as charismatic if he just sat there and nothing while she started talking about him as if he wasn't there? Unless of course you're saying Russell Brand has poor social skills?

    He is a dickhead. Using him as a role model is not recommended for anyone, particularly for people who already have issues with social interactions and can’t recognise him for what he is.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Oh sweet....

    Here we go again.


    I-feel-so-awkward.gif?resize=894%2C463&ssl=1

    Oh sweet...

    My biggest fan is back.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    My biggest fan is back.

    Your irony isn't even good.

    1/10.


    Edit:And shouting is frowned upon.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    He's a prize loo laa. Hardly a shining example of any kind of a role model.
    Yes, but there's a lot more to be learned from him then say (someone like you). Who's gonna get invited to more parties? Russell Brand, or a normal person?!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Your irony isn't even good.

    1/10.
    Oh come on, you show up in my every thread of mine. It makes your day to throw in your biting one liners as you get distracted from your newspaper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


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    Yes, but there's a lot more to be learned from him then say (someone like you). Who's gonna get invited to more parties? Russell Brand, or a normal person?!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Your irony isn't even good.

    1/10.


    Edit:And shouting is frowned upon.
    Still barely noticeable in comparison to the big move image above it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭Game of Thrones Fan


    giphy.gif
    You lost that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Does it annoy you when people refer to you this way when you're are present? Sometimes it can seem more rude than others. I came across this a few times recently and it's kind of annoying.

    You can see Russell Brand calling someone out about this from 5:04 onwards. I know it's Russell Brand, but just watch that part. He later corrects her on this at 6:07.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynUjo99Gzbk

    No


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    No
    So you've watched that part of the video and think Russell Brand comes across as an idiot?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Oh sweet....

    Here we go again.


    I-feel-so-awkward.gif?resize=894%2C463&ssl=1
    And just like me, he's miles better looking than any of them.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Drop your high minded talk. You only use it as a way of avoiding the question of the thread... just like everyone else. If you've nothing to say, then don't post.
    I am directly addressing the question of the thread, which is your lack of understanding of the difference between things in social situations you should react to and things in social situations you shouldn't. In each of your threads on the matter, you seem to have real difficulties with this. Therapy was good advice. Or at least seeking a professional opinion.
    Or maybe I should give you a badge of honour for being 'normal'. Maybe Russell Brand just cop on and just be more normal.
    I did say relatively normal people for a start. Brand would be the first to admit and has that he suffers from addiction issues, ADHD, bipolar disorder, eating disorders and periods of self harm. He's quite open that he's not "normal" as a way to help spread mental health awareness. He's also an entertainer and an over the top one. That's his act and handily his personal demons feed into it in negative and positive ways. His social calibration can be quite off too outside the context of being "on show". Things he has also discussed. He has also sought out treatment when he realised some of his screws that were loose needed tightening for his sake and for those around him. Indeed Brand should be a good inspiration for you. If you follow his journey back from the brink.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Wibbs wrote: »
    and yet another rereg with it.
    That is slander, and if I wasn't only a little fish I'd be taking this further.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    You don't understand what slander means.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I am directly addressing the question of the thread, which is your lack of understanding of the difference between things in social situations you should react to and things in social situations you shouldn't.
    So you're saying Russell B also showed a lack of understanding by reacting to this?
    Wibbs wrote: »
    He's also an entertainer and an over the top one.
    And I can't be an entertainer? Or even take 10% of what he does?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    So you've watched that part of the video and think Russell Brand comes across as an idiot?

    I think Russel Brand in general is an idiot.
    I've better things to be getting annoyed about than stuff like this, I wouldn't even class it as a minor annoyance.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Problem Of Motivation


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    I think Russel Brand in general is an idiot.
    I've better things to be getting annoyed about than stuff like this, I wouldn't even class it as a minor annoyance.
    As expected, you avoided my question.


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