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Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

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  • #1952
    Hermy
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    Jos (short for Joseph) Meehan?

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  • #1953
    BowWow
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    Hermy wrote: »
    Jos (short for Joseph) Meehan?

    Agreed.


  • #1954
    VicWynne
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    Thanks Hermy & BowWow. That disproves what I was hoping - But I could see both Jos for Jospeh, and Tos for Tomas/Thomas... I was hoping for the latter. :rolleyes:


  • #1955
    pinkypinky
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    Any thoughts on the address for Mary Reilly, second from bottom?

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06234/4784346.pdf

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  • #1956
    VirginiaB
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    It looks like 1 Uxbridge to me, as in a street address, 1 Uxbridge Street. There was an Uxbridge Street in Dublin--maybe still is?--according to Google.

    What a way to die--'dentition convulsions' for a baby.


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  • #1957
    wicklow_hills
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    Remarks field in Royal Navy records. From approx 1915. It’s from the service record of one of my ancestors. His ship was sunk on the last day of WWI. Keen to see what it says... as far as possible


  • #1958
    wicklow_hills
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭wicklow_hills


    Remarks field in Royal Navy records. From approx 1915. It’s from the service record of one of my ancestors. His ship was sunk on the last day of WWI. Keen to see what it says... as far as possible


  • #1959
    spurious
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    VirginiaB wrote: »
    It looks like 1 Uxbridge to me, as in a street address, 1 Uxbridge Street. There was an Uxbridge Street in Dublin--maybe still is?--according to Google.

    What a way to die--'dentition convulsions' for a baby.

    Uxbridge was the space now occupied by The Kiln apartments. You can see it on the old map layers on the OSI site, near Beaver Street.


  • #1960
    pedroeibar1
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    wicklow_hills wrote: »
    Remarks field in Royal Navy records. From approx 1915. It’s from the service record of one of my ancestors. His ship was sunk on the last day of WWI. Keen to see what it says... as far as possible


    NP10/373OCS Cannot count
    Merchant Service for
    ----Badger
    10/…..Gra for rais’g Emerald
    NP3926/15 Wounded in
    Action Dardanelles Aden B—
    Missing – 13/7/16
    RMS

    I’d infer that he served on a ship named Badger but this was disallowed. Also RMS in the last line would suggest Royal Mail Ship


  • #1961
    pinkypinky
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    WicklowHills - please link to the full page if possible.

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  • #1962
    Vetch
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    pedroeibar1 wrote: »
    NP10/373OCS Cannot count
    Merchant Service for
    ----Badger
    10/…..Gra for rais’g Emerald
    NP3926/15 Wounded in
    Action Dardanelles Aden B—
    Missing – 13/7/16
    RMS

    I’d infer that he served on a ship named Badger but this was disallowed. Also RMS in the last line would suggest Royal Mail Ship

    I think what it might be is 'Cannot count Merchant Service for GC Badge', meaning Good Conduct Badge.


  • #1963
    Deja Boo
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    Not sure if removing some dust helps or hinders the effort... I hesitate removing much more for fear of taking out some of the letters.


  • #1964
    spurious
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    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03612/2332827.pdf

    Would appreciate suggestions as to the maiden name of Mary Leddy's mother Cath. (entry 23).


  • #1965
    BowWow
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    spurious wrote: »
    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03612/2332827.pdf

    Would appreciate suggestions as to the maiden name of Mary Leddy's mother Cath. (entry 23).

    Dreadful writing..

    Meade, Macken...


  • #1966
    spurious
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    It's terrible isn't it? Some districts have people with beautiful writing and then there is this sort of stuff.


  • #1967
    pinkypinky
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    Meath?

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  • #1968
    Deja Boo
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    Mack - MacN - could it possibly be an abbreviation for McNamara?


  • #1969
    spurious
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    I think about all I can say for sure at the moment is it might be Ma* or Me*.
    It does look like a double L at one stage, but sure it could be anything really.

    And the father - Daniel or possibly David I think.


  • #1970
    BowWow
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    Baptism on 8th. April 1864 in Newmarket-on-Fergus in Catholic Church records for Mary, daughter of Daniel Leddy and Catherine Mack. Sponsor - Joan Mack.


  • #1971
    spurious
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    Great stuff BowWow. Thanks.


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  • #1972
    BowWow
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    spurious wrote: »
    Great stuff BowWow. Thanks.

    No problem spurious - you've helped me out on a number of occasions..


  • #1973
    KildareFan
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    BowWow wrote: »
    No problem spurious - you've helped me out on a number of occasions..


    Take a Bow, Wow


  • #1974
    Griffinx
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    Could anyone help here please with the marriage of James Nolan and Mary Cantwell third from the bottom. I can't make out any of the addresses.. thanks


  • #1975
    New Home
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    For John I think it's Johnston Court. I'll check the rest again.


  • #1976
    spurious
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    Maria - 1(?)4(?)7 Gt. Britain Street (now Parnell St)

    Witnesses South Circular Road and Bray.

    **edit it looks to me like Newtown, Queen's Co. for her parents' address.


  • #1977
    BowWow
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    I think the Groom's parents are dead. "Mortui? Latin for dead?
    Johnston's court - off Grafton Street.
    Newtown, Queens Co.
    147 Great Brittan Street.
    South Circular Road.
    Bray.


  • #1978
    Griffinx
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    spurious wrote: »
    Maria - 1(?)4(?)7 Gt. Britain Street (now Parnell St)

    Witnesses South Circular Road and Bray.

    **edit it looks to me like Newtown, Queen's Co. for her parents' address.

    Bingo...I had known there was a connection to Crettyard, Co. Carlow but couldn't pin it down for over a year. Newtown now proves this as its the same parish...thank you very much to you and bowwow for taking me out of my misery :)

    Cheers :)


  • #1979
    cameramonkey
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    111mnt5.png

    where it says domestic servant a word has been added between. Cant make it out.

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002553873/


  • #1980
    spurious
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    Cook?


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  • #1981
    cameramonkey
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    spurious wrote: »
    Cook?


    Thanks, i think you are right.


  • #1982
    pinkypinky
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    Agree - cook.

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  • #1983
    shar01
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    Apologies - I'm not very technically minded.

    I'm trying to decipher the location in this record. It looks like Murtin but maybe it's latin?

    Screenshot 2019-05-18 at 10.03.18 AM.png

    Screenshot 2019-05-18 at 10.03.00 AM.png

    Thanks in advance.


  • #1984
    Hermy
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    shar01 wrote: »
    Apologies - I'm not very technically minded.

    Not at all - they're good detailed screen grabs.

    I can't do any better than Murtin myself but here's a link to the same image on irishgenealogy.ie which is a little clearer.

    Do you have any background info that might help us?

    480588.png

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  • #1985
    pinkypinky
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    Thanks for adding the link Hermy.

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  • #1986
    shar01
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    Cheers Hermy.

    I'm helping out a chap who contacted me yesterday - our Trees overlap.

    The father of the child is likely to be Francis Tothill, husband of Mary Anne Delahunt's aunt, Annie (the witness).

    I'll mess around this afternoon to see if I can dig anything else up.

    Would the gap of almost a month between birth and baptism be unusual?


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  • #1987
    spurious
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    shar01 wrote: »
    Cheers Hermy.

    I'm helping out a chap who contacted me yesterday - our Trees overlap.

    The father of the child is likely to be Francis Tothill, husband of Mary Anne Delahunt's aunt, Annie (the witness).

    I'll mess around this afternoon to see if I can dig anything else up.

    Would the gap of almost a month between birth and baptism be unusual?

    Not for Protestants, if they were. Is there a civil cert for the birth?


  • #1988
    shar01
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    Haven't managed to find it yet. I've tried Delahunt as birth surname.

    Complete supposition on my part but some of the Delahunts and Millers came Wicklow and I was thinking Murtin... The Murrough?

    This is Annie Miller and her husband, Francis:
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Marlborough_Street/30617/

    Here's John Miller (entry 440):
    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02097/1799187.pdf


  • #1989
    Paramite Pie
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    I need help deciphering the addresses from very poor handwriting on a Westport marriage. Initially I thought it the first letter was a 'B' but it doesn't match the B in Batchelor. Now I think it begins Innis-something.

    To back that up, at the top of the page the district is surely Aghaghower parish, district of Islandeady, Union of Wesport. That's the strangest 'I' I ever saw in Islandeady - it looks like a G!

    It's the marriage first entry ; John Quinn & Mary Moran. Addresses unknown. Edit : additional info - The wife died before the census, the kids are born in Innishnakillew (Kilmeena parish) where the family still resides in 1901 & 1911. However that does not appear to be either address above.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10863/5966356.pdf

    Any help is appreciated, thanks.


  • #1990
    spurious
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    Rootsireland have it transcribed as Inniscoolagh and Letterean.

    Edit**
    actually, looking at Inishnakillew on logainm.ie does throw up a couple of possibilities that could have been written as Inniscoolagh, so it might well be supposed to be Inishnakillew.


  • #1991
    Paramite Pie
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    Thanks very much Spurious - I don't have a Roots Ireland subscription, I thought they just transcribed parish registers. I never considered them for GRO records.

    Logainm was very useful since it showed the Irish is name Inis na Coilleadh - which could just as easily be anglicised as Inis Coolagh. A different address before marriage might be a potential clue but I'm satisfied now he remained stationary.

    As for Letterean - I was miles off. I was seeing a non-existant Seltenen!:pac:

    The parish record gave no addresses at all so I'm very grateful. Thanks again.


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  • #1992
    oceanclub
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    Hi all,

    Would appreciate any extra info that could be gleaned from this army pay book - you can view in full by clicking through, then clicking Load in Full Resolution)

    TUMMON-Michael-Army-Record-Book.jpg

    It looks like (my comments in square brackets):

    [faint scribble] FD 1869 [is this a year - what might "FD" mean?] Louisa [wife] [something illegble] "66th Regiment"
    1872- [not sure does this mean their birthdate?] Children Mary-Ann/Elizabeth
    Father [faint scribble - could be press-thru from another document]
    Mother [two year dates on left and more scribbles] Ann - Croomlagh - Cavan [presumably her latest residence or place of birth]
    Brothers and Sisters [text struck through so not sure if accidental - looks like was about to write daughter Elizabeth down again]

    If anything thinks that in particular the scribbles in the 3d panel mean anything please let me know,

    P.


  • #1993
    Jellybaby1
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    #oceanclub probably this won't be much help but could it be 'High. i.e. Highlanders 66th Regiment? The sister looks like Eliza. That's all I can get from it.


  • #1994
    Nigel Fairservice
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    Hi all, just wondering if anyone can decipher the date on this?

    Also, would the names Ellie and Ellen have been considered interchangeable in the early 1900s? I'm trying to decide if two certs I have and a census record are for the same person.


  • #1995
    spurious
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    January tenth? Would need the full page to be more sure.

    Ellie/Ellen could easily be the same person. Maybe also Nell, Helen, Eleanor etc.. However, ideally look for something else too - a location, surname of witness etc..


  • #1996
    pinkypinky
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    Please post the full page link.

    It's *literally* written in the thread title.

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  • #1997
    Nigel Fairservice
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    pinkypinky wrote: »
    Please post the full page link.

    It's *literally* written in the thread title.

    Apologies, perhaps edit thread title to 'full page of document' for clarity.

    Item 469.


  • #1998
    spurious
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    Yes, I'd be fairly sure it's January tenth.


  • #1999
    Nigel Fairservice
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    spurious wrote: »
    January tenth? Would need the full page to be more sure.

    Ellie/Ellen could easily be the same person. Maybe also Nell, Helen, Eleanor etc.. However, ideally look for something else too - a location, surname of witness etc..

    The date would be in line with my thoughts. I'm trying to match the person to a 1901 census return. As they died in early 1955, their year of birth, I imagine, would have been 1887. The person was 14 in 1901. This would tie in with the census document I have.

    I'm trying to trace my great great grandparents through my great great aunt. I'm not having much luck through my own great grandparents. They had very common names which is leading to loads of results. The linked document is my great grandmother.....I think...it's my best guess.

    I'm trying to tie my great great aunt (through her marriage cert) to my great grandmother and great great grandparents through the census as I have more concrete information about her. She is Ellen on her marriage cert but down as Ellie on the census, hence my asking about the name.


  • #2000
    Hermy
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    Nigel Fairservice wrote: »
    Apologies, perhaps edit thread title to 'full page of document' for clarity.

    Item 469.

    It's already been edited to that effect.

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  • #2001
    Nigel Fairservice
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    Hermy wrote: »
    It's already been edited to that effect.

    Again, I apologise. When I see the words link and page in the same sentence I think of a link to a website/web page. A bit thick of me, I hold my hands up.


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