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Eurovision 2018

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  • #402
    Amik
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    Some good news from Macedonia:

    "Second rehearsal done✔ It's getting better"

    Looks like an outfit change?

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BiXalbaAlNZ


    Our man enjoying a well deserved rest in the city...

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BiXVg0ynZwM


  • #403
    Amik
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    Eurovision Village officially open!

    DcWeVkBV0AA8XH6.jpg

    https://twitter.com/ESCpulse/status/992426725601660928


  • #404
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,318 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Come on Macedonia!
    I have a flutter on couple top 10s
    Poland 12-1
    Macedonia 20-1
    Azerbaijan 8-1

    I meant to put a bet on Cyprus last week but left it too long so zero value now :(


  • #405
    Amik
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    gmisk wrote: »
    Come on Macedonia!
    I have a flutter on couple top 10s
    Poland 12-1
    Macedonia 20-1
    Azerbaijan 8-1

    I meant to put a bet on Cyprus last week but left it too long so zero value now :(


    Maybe add Croatia at around 16/1? I'm considering it.

    From comments it seems that Macedonia's outfit above is what she's wearing during the 1st half of the song. She switches to that pink number in the 2nd.


  • #406
    Amik
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    gmisk wrote: »
    I meant to put a bet on Cyprus last week but left it too long so zero value now :(

    Your living room next Saturday....

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BiYHKxlHPM3/


  • #407
    mailburner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,930 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    I can't figure out this market at all...a couple of days ago estonia were 14s/12s everywhere and I'm thinking I'm doomed and now all I see is 13/2 tops

    rehearsals must have gone well is all I can think


  • #408
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    It's now almost impossible predict the winner this year. It would be nice to see Cyprus win for the first time (they've now replaced Portugal as the country with most entries and zero wins) but I'm not crazy about the song; it's what Salvador Sobral would call "fast food music"! I'm not too sure about Israel either, think they may end up like Italy did last year. I really hope Norway don't win; as great a performer as Rybak is, it's supposed to be a song contest, and the song is just...blergh.

    I could actually see France or Italy winning it if the messages resonate on the night but they've been well-fancied before and flopped.

    If it was up to me I'd give it to Portugal for a second year; "O Jardim" is a really beautiful song and has crept its way to the top of my list. Also fancy Austria to spring a challenge if the staging is done right. And the darkest of dark horses: Hungary. Metalcore winning Eurovision? Stranger things have happened! :D


  • #409
    Amik
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    mailburner wrote: »
    I can't figure out this market at all...a couple of days ago estonia were 14s/12s everywhere and I'm thinking I'm doomed and now all I see is 13/2 tops

    rehearsals must have gone well is all I can think

    Estonia's back in the running, currently tied for 2nd with Norway at 6/1 at my two walk-in bookies.

    The performance really looks magical, even better than it did at the national final. They almost didn't get the projectors necessary but found a sponsor last minute (cost of around 10k EUR).

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BiWR78Kntpw


  • #410
    Amik
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    Deleted User wrote: »

    I could actually see France or Italy winning it if the messages resonate on the night but they've been well-fancied before and flopped.

    If it was up to me I'd give it to Portugal for a second year; "O Jardim" is a really beautiful song and has crept its way to the top of my list.

    France would be a worthy winner. Lots more chatter about them this year than previous ones. Everyone can remember basic French like "Merci" and the emotion in the song transcends language. Italy is a good song but just too Italian. That said Salvador won in a language I don't know at all. SO hard to pick this year like you said. :D

    Portugal looked and sounded fantastic yesterday. Looking forward to the second rehearsal.


  • #411
    Oops69
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's now almost impossible predict the winner this year.
    Israel have it by a mile if anti-semitism doesnt affect the vote .


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  • #412
    Mollyb60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Mollyb60


    Anyone else think the start of the Italian song sounds like a Muse song? I can't decide if it makes me like it more or less.




    I thought it the first time I heard the song and couldn't get it out of my head.


  • #413
    Amik
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    Mollyb60 wrote: »
    Anyone else think the start of the Italian song sounds like a Muse song?

    Nice catch!

    We'll find out next Saturday if it was a good strategic move to not promote the song earlier at all the pre-parties. It seems fresh as we haven't heard it as much as the others.

    I do like it. Just need to see the rehearsal with real camera work to make a final decision. Currently at 30/1 to win. Maybe worth a punt?


  • #414
    Amik
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    mailburner wrote: »
    I can't figure out this market at all...a couple of days ago estonia were 14s/12s everywhere and I'm thinking I'm doomed and now all I see is 13/2 tops rehearsals must have gone well is all I can think

    Here's solid proof why she's near the top of the market!!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BiUeAJjnAC-


  • #415
    yerwanthere123
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Oops69 wrote: »
    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's now almost impossible predict the winner this year.
    Israel have it by a mile if anti-semitism doesnt affect the vote .

    Hardly anti-semitism, more politics. If some people refuse to vote for Russia then Israel certainly shouldn't be excluded.

    I'd be relatively happy with most winners bar Israel and Norway. France is my number one but I just can't see it happening. I loved Estonia initially but admittedly I'm after getting a bit bored of it, but most will be hearing it for the first time on the night, so I'm not sure.

    Eta: That's obviously in response to Oops69, not Homer.


  • #416
    Pang
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    I am a big fan of Norway and Alexander. I read he has the flu so fingers crossed he's better for Thursday's semi final.


  • #417
    Amik
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    Oops69 wrote: »

    Hardly anti-semitism, more politics. If some people refuse to vote for Russia then Israel certainly shouldn't be excluded.

    I'd be relatively happy with most winners bar Israel and Norway. France is my number one but I just can't see it happening. I loved Estonia initially but admittedly I'm after getting a bit bored of it, but most will be hearing it for the first time on the night, so I'm not sure.

    Eta: That's obviously in response to Oops69, not Homer.

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    I agree it would be pure politics. Something else is the tone of the song. Where other songs are about love, peace, etc. this one is very anti-men and negative. I feel bad about myself and all my brothers after a listen. :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMgW54HBOS0


  • #418
    Amik
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    Pang wrote: »
    I am a big fan of Norway and Alexander. I read he has the flu so fingers crossed he's better for Thursday's semi final.

    Must have caught it at Philipp Kirkorov's birthday party before his first rehearsal. He and some other stars were partying hard there according to reports. :)

    tenor.gif


  • #419
    Amik
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    The Eurovision silliness I love begins... :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3yVs2yMHIE


  • #420
    gmisk
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    Amik wrote: »
    gmisk wrote: »
    I meant to put a bet on Cyprus last week but left it too long so zero value now :(

    Your living room next Saturday....

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BiYHKxlHPM3/
    Jesus that is class.
    She is like gay crack!


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  • #421
    Try_harder
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    Finland was stuck in my head all day!!!


  • #422
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    Automatic qualifiers have done the draw for which half of the show they'll perform in.
    France, Germany, The UK and Spain all drew first half performance slots, along with Portugal who drew 8th position a few weeks ago in a separate draw.
    Only Italy drew the second half.

    3 of the past 4 winning songs (2017, 2015 and 2014) all won from first half slots but they were all in the second part of the first half, so an early draw is still not considered favourable. As the UK and Germany aren't in with any realistic shot of winning I suspect they'll both be given 1st-7th. France will almost certainly be given 9th-13th, and I'd say Spain probably will too.


  • #423
    Try_harder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    I got Cyprus at 12/1 and Finland at 40/1 - guess Im a bangers man!


  • #424
    yerwanthere123
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Disappointed about where France were drawn, but as above I think they'll be in the latter half of the first half. Not that I thought they had a realistic shot at winning anyway, but only way I could see it now is if they won the jury vote by a huge margin and came around 3rd in the public vote. I can dream I guess!


  • #425
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    I got Cyprus at 12/1 and Finland at 40/1 - guess Im a bangers man!

    12/1? Cool, the lady from Cyprus was underrated from the start, maybe not as much as FYROM, but she sure works it on the stage. Finland readily available at 51 (50/1) but isn't really on the radar.

    SsWDd8i.png


  • #426
    Whitters22
    Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Whitters22


    Spain and Austria are the only two I've religiously listened to over the last couple of weeks. Hope they do really well!!


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  • #427
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Cyprus lady is on fire (Fuego), now the joint fav to win outright.
    Isr without the love looper machine and lack of theatrics/dynamics, could be the showstopper for them.

    a0bPDHb.png

    Fuego
    Fuego
    Ah yeah ah yeah ah yeah, yeah ah yeah ah yeah
    Fuego


  • #428
    dogcat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭dogcat


    Question for you, if I put €5 on Cyprus @7/1 EW, does that mean I get €53.70 if Cyprus places in the top 4, without winning, or do I only get that if Cyprus wins?


  • #429
    Try_harder
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    dogcat wrote: »
    Question for you, if I put 5 on Cyprus @7/1 EW, does that mean I get 53.70 if Cyprus places in the top 4, without winning, or do I only get that if Cyprus wins?

    You would get about 13.75 back if they finished top 4 (1/4 odds)


  • #430
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    If you'd asked me a week or two ago which song was going to come from nowhere like that, it would have been a good while before I'd have thought of Cyprus! To go from borderline qualifier to potential winner in such a short space of time is a big achievement*, so I guess the live performance must really have something special in it? It's not my favourite song in the contest by any means but I can certainly appreciate that it's catchy, and I'm now looking forward to seeing it live much more than I had been previously. Plus it's always nice to see a country that's never won be in the mix, so I wouldn't begrudge them a victory even if I think other songs are more deserving.

    *either that or there's lots of money changing hands somewhere in the background....though I don't think Cyprus is that kind of country! :pac:


  • #431
    Try_harder
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    If you'd asked me a week or two ago which song was going to come from nowhere like that, it would have been a good while before I'd have thought of Cyprus! To go from borderline qualifier to potential winner in such a short space of time is a big achievement*, so I guess the live performance must really have something special in it? It's not my favourite song in the contest by any means but I can certainly appreciate that it's catchy, and I'm now looking forward to seeing it live much more than I had been previously. Plus it's always nice to see a country that's never won be in the mix, so I wouldn't begrudge them a victory even if I think other songs are more deserving.

    *either that or there's lots of money changing hands somewhere in the background....though I don't think Cyprus is that kind of country! :pac:

    Malta would be dodgy money country lol


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  • #432
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    You would get about 13.75 back if they finished top 4 (1/4 odds)

    Not even sure if it would be that much, prices are dropping fast and there hasn't been any value in them for some time now.

    Little point in going e/w on the joint fav anyway, and would have to double stake 5win +5 (for the place part). Unless doing 2.50 e/w.

    Instead listen to entrants <30days (next year) and pick a few catchy favourites out early.

    Just sit back and watch those loverly firey ladies stamping their stilleto heels on the dancefloor 20:00hrs + CET. Well much later if the last song so likely closer to 22:00...


  • #433
    Try_harder
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    Cant wait to see Cyprus live tomorrow night!


    Yeah yeah yeah, fire


  • #434
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Cyprus 2nd Reh:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evz5Fy9d3SU

    As you can see the ladies put on a bit of a 'show',
    decent staging, effects, energy, pyrotechnics etc.

    Only two concerns
    i) Such the vigour of the ponytail swashing, one of the dancers could damage their neck.

    ii) [Pre-Chorus]
    I was looking for some high-high-highs, yeah
    'Til I got a doze of you
    You got me pelican fly-fly-flyin'

    "Pelican flying"?


  • #435
    Try_harder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    Love the cardboard cutout fans


  • #436
    dogcat
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    Some of you may enjoy this

    https://twitter.com/eurovisionisbae/status/992259362151264261


  • #437
    Try_harder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    Thats what I was hinting at!


  • #438
    yerwanthere123
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Happy Eurovision day everyone! Not looking forward to the war-zone this thread will turn into when Ireland fail to qualify again :pac:


  • #439
    Try_harder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    Cyprus 17/10 now on Betfair! Feugo!


  • #440
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    Cyprus 17/10 now on Betfair! Feugo!

    Hyped to the max, someone was snoozing at powers earlier, as they had them at 4.5 just for SF1 (3pl) for a while, pulled back to 2.7 within the hour.

    4.5 still wasn't great but for less than half the field at 3pl, fair enough.

    She's like the wan off Cowells talent show, and with the backing singers/dancers. Effectively eastern euro p'catdolls tribute act.


  • #441
    Try_harder
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    Chris Wooden Motorbike wrote: »
    Hyped to the max, someone was snoozing at powers earlier, as they had them at 4.5 just for SF1 (3pl) for a while, pulled back to 2.7 within the hour.

    4.5 still wasn't great but for less than half the field at 3pl, fair enough.

    She's like the wan off Cowells talent show, and with the backing singers/dancers. Effectively eastern euro p'catdolls tribute act.

    Its catnip to the gays! And its got that Greek melody for a cultural reference


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  • #442
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    Its catnip to the gays! And its got that Greek melody for a cultural reference

    Not sure what catnip is, but the lucious Eleni sure is easy on the eye for us straight chaps out there.

    That 2 bar ethnic music loop in the track, can only be associated with folks that play an 'instrument of an unknown origin' outside shopping centres - across the width and breath of the country, in the hope of financial coinage reward.

    In this instance it appears to be working for Cyprus, whom have now overtaken Isr, as the potential winner.


  • #443
    Try_harder
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    We could see an Albanian born Greek musician representing Cyprus with a song in English with a Spanish title win on Saturday in Portugal.


  • #444
    Try_harder
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    Sheep, douze points!


  • #445
    Mollyb60
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    RTE got in on the Eurovision predictions yesterday with their piece:
    https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2018/0505/960293-eurovision-eleven-acts-in-the-run-for-glittery-glory/

    They've listed most of the songs I actively dislike from the contest this year, including Netta (can we PLEASE stop talking about Netta?) the cringy Norway song and the bizzare country/western/Eurovision song Outlaw in em from the Netherlands. :rolleyes:

    Very excited for the first semi-final tonight. The bank holiday has me all off so I didn't even realise it was tonight till my husband mentioned it this morning. A good start to the day! :D


  • #446
    gmisk
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    It looks like Macedonia are a long shot to even qualify alas :(
    they are now a whopping 28/1 for top 10 boo
    Azerbaijan still 7/1 for top 10

    Poland though are now 15/2 for top 10 (I got them at 10/1!)

    Semi Final 1 predicted qualifiers are
    Israel
    Cyprus
    Czech Republic
    Estonia
    Bulgaria
    Greece
    Austria
    Lithuania
    Armenia
    Belgium

    So that would mean Finland, Croatia, Azerbaijan and Ireland all out (as well as my beloved Macedonia).
    So we will see!

    In even bigger news CYPRUS are the new favourites to win ahead of Israel!


  • #447
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    The Macedonians must have had a very poor 2nd live rehersal, that has put them 2nd last in SF1 to qualify (even below Ire).

    If they can get sound levels right, syncronisation and perform their catchy tune well 21:00 CEST, they should still pull through.
    With upcoming NATO & EU membership the eurocentric judges will toss them out a few extra points anyway.

    Cyprus is the story of the day, dropped like a stone last night from about 12 into 9, into 3, within hours.
    And from mid-range 67 just 6weeks ago. Recent performances have been 'energetic' to say the least.

    Azerbijiggystan usually do well in these things, and are still 200/1 shots.
    The Czech lad 20/1 likely ruined his chances through inappropiate behaviour.
    The only other wildcards of note were Romania 250/1, decent enough.
    Liked also the Flatlanders country-rock, different but 100/1 now.


  • #448
    gmisk
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    Chris Wooden Motorbike wrote: »
    The Czech lad 20/1 likely ruined his chances through inappropiate behaviour.
    What did he do?
    The only thing I really know about him is he hurt himself doing a backflip at rehearsal.


  • #449
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    gmisk wrote: »
    What did he do?
    The only thing I really know about him is he hurt himself doing a backflip at rehearsal.

    Thik he said the loverly FYROM lady farted in her video, then went cranky during 2nd rehersals and damaged his back in the previous rehersal, so won't be dancing much for finals. Still, the teenage girls will send some votes his way.

    Same price as Josef, and probably one of the lower risk entrants might be Bulgaria, very atmospheric and bucket loads of harmonies. Also, 5pl are now available.


  • #450
    Strazdas
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    Ryan is in with a great shout of qualifying from that #18 position. I've seen two clips of his jury final performance last night and he went big in the arena....loud cheers for the dancers coming on stage and when the snow starts falling.

    I think Lithuania can join him in the final. A really heartfelt, emotional performance from Ieva and a big contrast to the loud, in your face midtempo and uptempo pop stuff.


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  • #451
    gmisk
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    Strazdas wrote: »
    Ryan is in with a great shout of qualifying from that #18 position. I've seen two clips of his jury final performance last night and he went big in the arena....loud cheers for the dancers coming on stage and when the snow starts falling.

    I think Lithuania can join him in the final. A really heartfelt, emotional performance from Ieva and a big contrast to the loud, in your face midtempo and uptempo pop stuff.
    I would still be pretty shocked if ireland qualify with that song....he is a great performer though and staging does look good so we will see.

    So the biggest surprise not qualifier might be Saara Aalto for me...

    The bulgaria song is excellent but might take a couple of listens for people to like it. Also the staging was very err green.


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