Sean O'Rourke Today Show

jay0109 · 14-06-2019 9:27pm

blinding wrote: »

Like I say they should kill the leaders of their enemies .

What age are you?

jeremyj1968 · 19-06-2019 10:18am

God, could you imagine having to deal with these union f**kers and their entitlements every day of your life.

Callan57 · 19-06-2019 10:47am

The focus will be on rehabilitation and reintigration!!!!! what about putting a focus on the protection of other young vulnerable girls?

This wasn't a random act that went wrong it was a meticulously planned & executed murder by clearly extremly dangerous individuals.

Odyssey 2005 · 19-06-2019 10:50am

Callan57 wrote: »

The focus will be on rehabilitation and reintigration!!!!! what about putting a focus on the protection of other young vulnerable girls?

This wasn't a random act that went wrong it was a meticulously planned & executed murder by clearly extremly dangerous individuals.

They should get a gallows, not rehabilitation

jeremyj1968 · 19-06-2019 10:54am

Dinner party stories from Honohan.

SEPT 23 1989 · 20-06-2019 11:12am

fair play to that politician

pure criminality

sligojoek · 20-06-2019 11:23am

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

fair play to that politician

pure criminality

Yes. He's calling it as it is. There should be more of this and none of Pavee point's whinging about discrimination and lack of funding.

jelutong · 20-06-2019 11:27am

As he said, nobody suggested mediating between the Hutches and the
Kinahans so why do it in this case?

Mad_maxx · 20-06-2019 2:41pm

jelutong wrote: »

As he said, nobody suggested mediating between the Hutches and the
Kinahans so why do it in this case?

Because even travellers engaged in serious criminality deserve special treatment

That American had no business appearing opposite the local politician, he was there to ferment an idea that the standard of behaviour here was different because it's travellers and so a mediator was required

Typical RTE

Odyssey 2005 · 21-06-2019 11:23am

Where did SOR dig up these two entitled yummy mummies. They're sickening. Sean seems bored

21-06-2019 12:00pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Where did SOR dig up these two entitled yummy mummies. They're sickening. Sean seems bored

They're TDs....

Odyssey 2005 · 21-06-2019 1:00pm

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

They're TDs....

You're kidding !. That explains a lot so. The Maldives, the USA and South Africa for a little breakeen with the rug rats;)

kazamo · 21-06-2019 3:56pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

You're kidding !. That explains a lot so. The Maldives, the USA and South Africa for a little breakeen with the rug rats;)

It was two different items so different women.

First item was about travelling with children and they were hard to listen to. One contributor seemed to hog the airtime playing some app that small children could listen to on the plane. And wasn't I brilliant for bringing a four year old and a two year old on a flight.

When it was over I was expecting some relief, instead the Friday gathering had Kate O Connell and Catherine Martin.....pregnant garda, misogny in the 80's and the climate change, bus corridors

Ronan Collins was looked forward to by this listener.....a phrase I never thought I'd ever write.

dulpit · 21-06-2019 4:23pm

kazamo wrote: »

It was two different items so different women.

First item was about travelling with children and they were hard to listen to. One contributor seemed to hog the airtime playing some app that small children could listen to on the plane. And wasn't I brilliant for bringing a four year old and a two year old on a flight.

When it was over I was expecting some relief, instead the Friday gathering had Kate O Connell and Catherine Martin.....pregnant garda, misogny in the 80's and the climate change, bus corridors

Ronan Collins was looked forward to by this listener.....a phrase I never thought I'd ever write.

What's wrong with both of them?

Odyssey 2005 · 21-06-2019 5:45pm

kazamo wrote: »

It was two different items so different women.

First item was about travelling with children and they were hard to listen to. One contributor seemed to hog the airtime playing some app that small children could listen to on the plane. And wasn't I brilliant for bringing a four year old and a two year old on a flight.

When it was over I was expecting some relief, instead the Friday gathering had Kate O Connell and Catherine Martin.....pregnant garda, misogny in the 80's and the climate change, bus corridors

Ronan Collins was looked forward to by this listener.....a phrase I never thought I'd ever write.

I was on about the two bints who jet set all over the wurld with their sprogs and eye pads

elperello · 21-06-2019 6:45pm

dulpit wrote: »

What's wrong with both of them?

Absolutely nothing.
SO'R was just doing his job as a journalist.

kazamo · 21-06-2019 8:18pm

dulpit wrote: »

What's wrong with both of them?

It was twenty minutes of moaning and complaining.
Ok there was not much positive news to review, but when the climate change proposals, neither of them were happy with that either, even though Kate is a government party TD.
If they had been there for another hour, not sure either would have been happy with any story.

21-06-2019 10:09pm

kazamo wrote: »

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

You're kidding !. That explains a lot so. The Maldives, the USA and South Africa for a little breakeen with the rug rats;)

It was two different items so different women.

First item was about travelling with children and they were hard to listen to. One contributor seemed to hog the airtime playing some app that small children could listen to on the plane. And wasn't I brilliant for bringing a four year old and a two year old on a flight.

When it was over I was expecting some relief, instead the Friday gathering had Kate O Connell and Catherine Martin.....pregnant garda, misogny in the 80's and the climate change, bus corridors

Ronan Collins was looked forward to by this listener.....a phrase I never thought I'd ever write.

What was the issue with the presence of TDs Kate O'Connell and Catherine Martin on the Friday panel? They weren't talking about children, but about issues like climate change and transport infrastructure.

I don't want to be pernickety but what was your issue there, apart from the fact that they're women?

I agree that the previous child segment was tedious, and it left me wondering why the technology expert from a major publication (who happens to be a woman) was invited along to discuss childcare on holidays.

padd b1975 · 21-06-2019 11:26pm

elperello wrote: »

Absolutely nothing.
SO'R was just doing his job as a journalist.

Kate fairly cut the legs from under him when he asked her why she didn't go to the minister about the pregnant Garda.

kazamo · 21-06-2019 11:52pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

What was the issue with the presence of TDs Kate O'Connell and Catherine Martin on the Friday panel? They weren't talking about children, but about issues like climate change and transport infrastructure.

I don't want to be pernickety but what was your issue there, apart from the fact that they're women?

I agree that the previous child segment was tedious, and it left me wondering why the technology expert from a major publication (who happens to be a woman) was invited along to discuss childcare on holidays.

Have absolutely no problem with them being women, it was their negative attitude which as public representatives, I don't believe is a good trait. For example if Regina Doherty or Lisa Chambers had been on the panel, I believe you had a far better chance of some positivity from our governments ideas on tackling climate change.

Seems to me, we have a cohort of TD's male and female who enjoy wallowing in highlighting the woes of this country. We need solutions, not endless circles of debating issues, do nothing, then repeat process in 2-3 years.

I think we deserve better, but maybe I'm just a raving lunatic

22-06-2019 12:28am

kazamo wrote: »

Have absolutely no problem with them being women, it was their negative attitude which as public representatives, I don't believe is a good trait.

You thought that Kate O’Connell TD (Govt representative on the panel) was too negative?

She defended everything the government had done and insisted that they were working 'to the best of their ability’. Can you elaborate on how you thought she was being negative?

If anyone should have been described as having had a negative attitude, it’d be Mick Clifford but even his points were fair and valid.

I’m afraid I just don’t understand your point here, or the link to the earlier female contributors.

kazamo · 22-06-2019 1:32am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

You thought that Kate O’Connell TD (Govt representative on the panel) was too negative?

She defended everything the government had done and insisted that they were working 'to the best of their ability’. Can you elaborate on how you thought she was being negative?

If anyone should have been described as having had a negative attitude, it’d be Mick Clifford but even his points were fair and valid.

I’m afraid I just don’t understand your point here, or the link to the earlier female contributors.

Kate O Connell made the following comments in that discussion
"It's a very very badly thought out plan"
"I'm a huge critic of the plan even though I'm a FG TD"

Listen back

in the past both Paschal and Regina went on numerous radio and tv shows to bat the party line and we're rewarded for same. I'm sure there were topics or party lines they would have preferred not to debate on air but toeing the party line and of course career advancement they did so.

jay0109 · 22-06-2019 10:08pm

Kate was not in the Leo camp during the FG leadership race. She had to back Simon as Eoghan Murphy (her constituency colleague) backed Leo and got a Minister's job t of it.
So Kate is out in the cold as long as Leo remains in power in FG. She's mostly negative about everything this Govt does...she regularly criticizes them whenever on radio, playing both sides of the fence so to speak.

I think kazamo called this correctly from his first post and has no case to answer around perceived misogyny. But each to their own view I suppose!

23-06-2019 5:48pm

kazamo wrote: »

Kate O Connell made the following comments in that discussion
"It's a very very badly thought out plan"
"I'm a huge critic of the plan even though I'm a FG TD"

Listen back

in the past both Paschal and Regina went on numerous radio and tv shows to bat the party line and we're rewarded for same.

Wasn't Regina Doherty accused of conspiring to organise protests against her own Government recently?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/chief-whip-is-accused-of-trying-to-organise-protests-against-herself-on-pylons-35316335.html

I live in Kate O'Connell's constituency, I think she's a valuable TD, but I also think she's engaging in parochial politics here.

Nevertheless, I still cannot understand the special ire that she comes in for.

Spanish Eyes · 23-06-2019 5:51pm

Coveney for leader of FG now. He has been very professional and played a blinder with the diplomacy issues surrounding Brexit IMV.

Better him than a fella that just shows off his mad socks and his gra for Kylie Minogue. I mean, come on!

honeybear · 23-06-2019 5:52pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Wasn't Regina Doherty accused of conspiring to organise protests against her own Government recently?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/chief-whip-is-accused-of-trying-to-organise-protests-against-herself-on-pylons-35316335.html

I live in Kate O'Connell's constituency, I think she's a valuable TD, but I also think she's engaging in parochial politics here.

Nevertheless, I still cannot understand the special ire that she comes in for.

Agree. Think she comes across as well briefed on topics under discussion - I’m apolitical and listen to a lot of current affairs radio programmes

Yer Da sells Avon · 23-06-2019 8:09pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Coveney for leader of FG now. He has been very professional and played a blinder with the diplomacy issues surrounding Brexit IMV.

I'm not a fan, but at least it'd feel like there's a grown-up in charge again.

24-06-2019 10:50am

She really doesn't like "profit making".

Badabing · 05-07-2019 1:12pm

Sean off again today. Counting down the days until he has 6 weeks off from next Friday. Some job. At least tubridy divides his time off and not a straight month off or watever he gets.

blinding · 05-07-2019 1:18pm

Badabing wrote: »

Sean off again today. Counting down the days until he has 6 weeks off from next Friday. Some job. At least tubridy divides his time off and not a straight month off or watever he gets.

RTE are worse than the BBC and thats saying something . It won’t belong now until they kick the crutches out from under over 75s .

amlinopta · 05-07-2019 2:15pm

A nice jaunt to Lahinch for the golf ahead of the 6 week holiday, handy day off last week as well.

SPDUB · 05-07-2019 11:38pm

blinding wrote: »

RTE are worse than the BBC and thats saying something . It won’t belong now until they kick the crutches out from under over 75s .

Really . Half the post doesn't make sense and 2 posters give it thanks ?

Cole · 06-07-2019 7:27am

I've just been listening to my regular podcasts of the show and caught Brenda Power and Ellen Coyne discussing Love Island (never watched it but know the score).

Maybe it was meant as 'tongue in cheek', but Jaysus...I'll never be able to take Ellen Coyne's analysis of anything political seriously again.

TheRiverman · 08-07-2019 1:02pm

Sean gave Paul Reid the new head of the HSE an easy interview this morning.

08-07-2019 3:32pm

Cole wrote: »

I've just been listening to my regular podcasts of the show and caught Brenda Power and Ellen Coyne discussing Love Island (never watched it but know the score).

Maybe it was meant as 'tongue in cheek', but Jaysus...I'll never be able to take Ellen Coyne's analysis of anything political seriously again.

isn't she signing-on 'down the labour' now anyway?

Jupiter Mulligan · 08-07-2019 3:37pm

TheRiverman wrote: »

Sean gave Paul Reid the new head of the HSE an easy interview this morning.

You mean SOR didn't beat him over the head about issues that he's not responsible for? That seems reasonable to me.

There's plenty of time for Reid to make his own mistakes. For starters, his attempt to force his minions not to overspend their budgets for the rest of this year will dig him a large enough hole to bury the QE2 in.

dulpit · 08-07-2019 8:40pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

isn't she signing-on 'down the labour' now anyway?

Starting with Joe.ie next week, they're doing new politics thing...

Brendan Bendar · 08-07-2019 9:02pm

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

You mean SOR didn't beat him over the head about issues that he's not responsible for? That seems reasonable to me.

There's plenty of time for Reid to make his own mistakes. For starters, his attempt to force his minions not to overspend their budgets for the rest of this year will dig him a large enough hole to bury the QE2 in.

Already made his first two, applied for the job, took the job.

jeremyj1968 · 10-07-2019 10:21am

Jesus, it's like groundhog day!!!

10-07-2019 10:33am

Are farmers being ordered to move to Dublin or something?

jeremyj1968 · 11-07-2019 7:29am

I'm sure there will be something about this on the show today.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/writer-and-barrister-noel-whelan-dies-aged-50-after-short-illness-1.3953576

11-07-2019 7:32am

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

I'm sure there will be something about this on the show today.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/writer-and-barrister-noel-whelan-dies-aged-50-after-short-illness-1.3953576

I'm a bit shocked hearing that on the radio this morning, I often heard him on radio or read his articles.

A very young man sadly.

HeidiHeidi · 11-07-2019 8:07am

Very sad news. Despite all the slagging about him being a FF mouthpiece, I always found his commentary interesting and engaging and not at all biased, and he had some great articles in the Irish Times.

Can't believe he was only 50. Far too young.

He'll be missed on the airwaves by me anyway.

11-07-2019 9:35am

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Very sad news. Despite all the slagging about him being a FF mouthpiece, I always found his commentary interesting and engaging and not at all biased, and he had some great articles in the Irish Times.

Can't believe he was only 50. Far too young.

He'll be missed on the airwaves by me anyway.

Me too. He seemed like an old-fashioned gentleman with a modern mind, capable of imagining a better society without diminishing his love for Ireland.

He was of course a Fianna Fáil man through and through. But he was still able to acknowledge the disastrous policies pursued for many years by that party. He took the longer view. His book on the history of Fianna Fáil is a worthwhile historical text for any political anorak.

He had a very unique way of speaking. Quite apart from his dogged refusal to acknowledge the existence of the letter H, he had a very personal (and personable) style. Notwithstanding his intellect, he seemed like the kind of guy you'd like to have a pint with and talk about the political scandal of the day. He will be missed, for sure.

Odyssey 2005 · 11-07-2019 10:28am

I see sean took twink out of her crypt to offer her watery condolences

Callan57 · 11-07-2019 10:35am

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Very sad news. Despite all the slagging about him being a FF mouthpiece, I always found his commentary interesting and engaging and not at all biased, and he had some great articles in the Irish Times.

Can't believe he was only 50. Far too young.

He'll be missed on the airwaves by me anyway.

RIP big loss to political punditry, he had a great nose for how the "wind was blowing" & never lost his "ear to the ground".

jeremyj1968 · 11-07-2019 10:41am

"I owe a lot of my seat to Noel Whelan" Zappone
"He was central to the same sex marriage campaign".

I think there is a big problem with modern journalism, that being a lobbyist and activist is not acceptable. It is not the job of the journalist to advocate for one side or the other. It is their job to report on the news impartially. Noel Whelan was presented as an independent observer by RTE, but he was more an activist than a journalist.

11-07-2019 10:47am

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

"I owe a lot of my seat to Noel Whelan" Zappone
"He was central to the same sex marriage campaign".

I think there is a big problem with modern journalism, that being a lobbyist and activist is not acceptable. It is not the job of the journalist to advocate for one side or the other. It is their job to report on the news impartially. Noel Whelan was presented as an independent observer by RTE, but he was more an activist than a journalist.

There's a big difference between news journalism and commentary. It's fairly basic, Jeremy. News commentary isn't impartial, news is. Everybody knew Noel Whelan had a particular political loyalty/ outlook, as does Vincent Browne, as does Fintan O'Toole or any other commentator. Their roles are nothing like those of the political correspondents.

Now is probably not the time.

FrancieBrady · 11-07-2019 11:27am

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

"I owe a lot of my seat to Noel Whelan" Zappone
"He was central to the same sex marriage campaign".

I think there is a big problem with modern journalism, that being a lobbyist and activist is not acceptable. It is not the job of the journalist to advocate for one side or the other. It is their job to report on the news impartially. Noel Whelan was presented as an independent observer by RTE, but he was more an activist than a journalist.

If the listenership doesn't know the difference between journalism and comment then that really is their problem.

I would have many issues with what Irish journalism chooses to report on and hierarchies of news content, but commentary is a different thing.

serfboard · 11-07-2019 12:35pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

There's a big difference between news journalism and commentary.

Indeed. Noel Whelan was never a journalist, never presented himself as such, and never was presented as such. He was always presented as "barrister and political commentator".

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