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Vetch · 27-11-2018 10:29pm

Tombom1 wrote: »

https://imgur.com/a/fLSCXUR

Hello can someone help me with a transcription for this house book description record?so far i have got:
Carrowkeel
John Healy £4.0.0
house one-third lofted [one-third written in figures]
shed at and 1 office
Barn and Stable
Cowhouse
This house is in a unfinished state
ground floors mortar and clay no ____(deduct 2/6) per £
painting papering & thatch are in upper room
and it is but of ordinary materials :deduct
2/6 per pound and therefore? __ same ,as well
as from the offices , which may be said to be
in a similar state. The situation may be considered ordinary being farther from markets
than the above and having a bad passage
to roads though nearly the same in all other respects
30th Dec 1844 martin coffey Valuator

Im not sure what the numbers mean ,a points system and a valuation based on that ,just for shed etc???This report is very interesting because our house was supposedly built in 1759 and built onto as i was told,the house is still here and walls downstairs are like 2 and 1/2 feet thick and it was one and a half stories before. If anybody could help me i would be extremely gratefull as i know it is a large enough transcription

Just tried to add in bits to your post. Hope it's okay.

tabbey · 28-11-2018 1:18am

Tombom1 wrote: »

sure. http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/vob/IRE_CENSUS_1821-51_007250632_00862.pdf thanks for looking!:)

2A or 3B refer to the age and quality of the buildings, I forget the actual code, but it is quite specific.

The next columns are the length, breadth and height in feet and inches. Followed by the area in square yards. (104, 21, 49, 19 etc)

New Home · 28-11-2018 6:28am

You can find the list of codes here.

dylbert · 29-11-2018 12:41pm

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1923/09179/5320129.pdf

The first entry for the marriage of Henry Byrne and Susanna Verdon, any idea what is written under the fathers name Henry Verdon?

Thanks.

mickmackey1 · 29-11-2018 12:53pm

dylbert wrote: »

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1923/09179/5320129.pdf

The first entry for the marriage of Henry Byrne and Susanna Verdon, any idea what is written under the fathers name Henry Verdon?

Thanks.

Pretty sure it's Dec for deceased. That's nearly always what's written in this particular location on the document, if applicable.

dylbert · 29-11-2018 1:02pm

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Pretty sure it's Dec for deceased. That's nearly always what's written in this particular location on the document, if applicable.

Brilliant thanks, that narrows my search a lot.

hblock21 · 11-12-2018 11:58pm

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06514/4876015.pdf

Can someone please tell me what the two children died of, no's 180 & 181?
I tried google but no matches maybe not reading the word right.
Poor family two children in 2 days....

pinkypinky · 12-12-2018 12:03am

I think it's scarlatina (spelled wrong) - some form of scarlet fever.

Thanatosgratus · 12-12-2018 12:08am

scarlatina

(ˌskɑːləˈtiːnə)n (Pathology) the technical name for scarlet fever

[C19: from New Latin, from Italian scarlattina, diminutive of scarlatto scarlet]

spurious · 14-12-2018 1:11pm

I know what I want the first line of the groom's father's occupation to be, but would be obliged for confirmation from others:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11395/8184410.pdf

mickmackey1 · 14-12-2018 1:21pm

It's RI Constabulary anyway, can't quite make out the first word.

spurious · 14-12-2018 1:42pm

I'm hoping it is 'Pensioner'.
I didn't think any of my ggggrandmother's siblings had survived, but I think this guy is one. Right religion, right place, right father's name and I believe right occupation. Hours more fun ahead.

pinkypinky · 14-12-2018 1:45pm

Yeah, I think you're right.

mickmackey1 · 14-12-2018 1:56pm

Hmm not sure, the 'P' in Patrick's Church looks a bit different.

Jellybaby1 · 14-12-2018 5:29pm

spurious wrote: »

I know what I want the first line of the groom's father's occupation to be, but would be obliged for confirmation from others:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11395/8184410.pdf

Looks like Auxiliary to me.

DamoRed · 14-12-2018 5:53pm

The tall letter, either an l or a t in the middle, doesn't fit in with pensioner. The first letter is far more like an A than the P in Parish. Auxiliary would seem to fit better.

spurious · 14-12-2018 7:54pm

I'm happy enough with the RIC bit to be honest. Everything else matches.
He had joined in 1832 and was pensioned in 1862. he died in 1891.

tabbey · 14-12-2018 11:14pm

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Hmm not sure, the 'P' in Patrick's Church looks a bit different.

They married in the Parish Church, not St Patrick's.

It is certainly Pensioner, perhaps with a slight slip of the pen.

pinkypinky · 16-12-2018 8:35pm

Please help with the sponsors of Michael Mahony (second from top on the right hand page)

https://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000635017_047

James ? & ??

Wyldwood · 16-12-2018 9:24pm

I'm seeing James Martin & Euligee? McGloskey

spurious · 16-12-2018 9:39pm

Eliza McGloskey?

mickmackey1 · 16-12-2018 9:47pm

James Martin and Eliza yes, surname McGlo*y (?)... Could be McGlosky although there are only 2 in the '01 census.

pinkypinky · 16-12-2018 11:24pm

McCluskey maybe?

spurious · 17-12-2018 2:02am

pinkypinky wrote: »

McCluskey maybe?

Judging by the spelling of Driscoll (Driskoll) later on, it may well be McCloskey/Cluskey heard as Gloskey.

Roosterreid · 19-12-2018 11:04pm

Folks,

Hopefully a quick one, but what does the text on this postcard say:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F143050893439

Many thanks

spurious · 20-12-2018 12:32am

Dear Sir
Eggs received all right will write you in a day or so
This is a photo of my turn(?) out
Yours truly
J(?) Carson

Roosterreid · 20-12-2018 7:35am

spurious wrote: »

Dear Sir
Eggs received all right will write you in a day or so
This is a photo of my turn(?) out
Yours truly
J(?) Carson

Looks easy once you see it... many thanks for this!

pedroeibar1 · 22-12-2018 10:41am

It is 'J' and 'turn out' - referring to the rig/pony & cart.

Whereisgerry? · 22-12-2018 7:12pm

I was wondering if you could work out the name of the informant on the record for Laurence Kenny. Nannie / Maurice Kenny maybe?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/3093706358620

Vetch · 22-12-2018 7:57pm

Whereisgerry? wrote: »

I was wondering if you could work out the name of the informant on the record for Laurence Kenny. Nannie / Maurice Kenny maybe?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/3093706358620

Nannie Kenny

Tombom1 · 31-12-2018 9:13pm

Need help with the residence of time of marriage for Dermot Cuddy I can't find a Boularane? The cuddys are from galway I think anyways maybe possibly roscommon but I doubt it. If you could help me find the townland that would be amazing , thank you

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10943/5999625.pdf

The chapel is in Fohenagh in the poor law union of Mountbellew ,his wife is from Fairfield,Killure just outside Ahascragh.

Wyldwood · 31-12-2018 11:51pm

Well, it looks like Dermot had a sister Eliza who married in 1886 and the wedding took place in the parish of Fuerty in Roscommon. Her address is given as Boolybane in the Registrar's district of Athleague.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10828/5949680.pdf

davo2001 · 31-12-2018 11:58pm

Hi all,

Looking to find out what the centre part of these army release papers say.

https://imgur.com/a/rRXUbAJ

Any help appreciated and happy new year!

Hermy · 01-01-2019 1:34am

This might be some of it...

...and his character
during this period was good
a good heavy mortar
lorry driver willing
_____ order & intelligent
& gave ____ action...

spurious · 01-01-2019 1:38am

davo2001 wrote: »

Hi all,

Looking to find out what the centre part of these army release papers say.

https://imgur.com/a/rRXUbAJ

Any help appreciated and happy new year!

..his character during this period was Good.
A good heavy motor(?) lorry driver, willing, honest, (?) + intelligent and gave ???

Hermy · 01-01-2019 1:39am

Mortar sounded more exciting but motor makes sense.

Maybe sober for the missing word?

Happy New Year.

Jellybaby1 · 01-01-2019 1:45am

how about....."honest soldier"?

Maybe not though. Happy New Year to all!

Tombom1 · 01-01-2019 5:27am

Wyldwood wrote: »

Well, it looks like Dermot had a sister Eliza who married in 1886 and the wedding took place in the parish of Fuerty in Roscommon. Her address is given as Boolybane in the Registrar's district of Athleague.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10828/5949680.pdf

Thanks so much i still cant find exactly where boolybane is but it was enough to solve my brickwall! I got that record from a Dna match.He couldnt find any further either.

Deja Boo · 01-01-2019 9:49am

A good heavy mortar lorry driver, willing, honest, sober, intelligent & gave satisfaction.

? maybe ?

pedroeibar1 · 01-01-2019 10:43am

Agree with D Boo above. Motor makes sense because he is RASC (Royal Army Service Corps). Woolich is primarily an artillery barracks but always had links with the RASC who had a barracks there also.

davo2001 · 01-01-2019 10:55am

Thanks all, it's my great grand father's discharge papers from WW1. He served as an ammunition transport driver delivering ammo behind the front lines.

Injured twice ( minor injuries ) during his time served.

Trying to find out more info on where exactly he was based in France.

paumurp · 04-01-2019 6:09pm

Hi can anyone make sense of the note at the end of the Baptism of Maria Joannes Graydon on this link

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633719#page/125/mode/1up (august 1874)

Also, do you think that the name Richard in the linked birth cert is a mistake? Looks like father's name in rather than Maria Joannes? Same record different name?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03139/2151169.pdf

spurious · 04-01-2019 7:06pm

paumurp wrote: »

Hi can anyone make sense of the note at the end of the Baptism of Maria Joannes Graydon on this link

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633719#page/125/mode/1up (august 1874)

Was her father a non-Catholic?

paumurp wrote: »

Also, do you think that the name Richard in the linked birth cert is a mistake? Looks like father's name in rather than Maria Joannes? Same record different name?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03139/2151169.pdf

Yes it looks like a mistake. These usually came to light later if applying for something you would need your birth cert for. The (5) underneath the name means they knew that should have been in column 5 (father's name).
Perhaps the lady registering the birth did not know what name the child had been given?

paumurp · 04-01-2019 7:17pm

spurious wrote: »

Was her father a non-Catholic?

Yes it looks like a mistake. These usually came to light later if applying for something you would need your birth cert for. The (5) underneath the name means they knew that should have been in column 5 (father's name).
Perhaps the lady registering the birth did not know what name the child had been given?

Hi Spurious...yes Church of Ireland...that makes sense now.

The names and location just threw me slightly, but dates etc fit Maria.

They don't have a marriage cert (that I can find), although 1911 census has them married 19 years (so around 1881) when their second child would have been born.

Thanks for the help, much appreciated.

srmf5 · 04-01-2019 11:02pm

Just wondering if anyone can make out the entry for a will abstract. It's at the top left numbered 316.

I can read, 'Kelly Robt Lisnanane Co. Roscommon Esq. to Catherine O'Connor the daughter (?) Celia Nolan (?) the daughter. Administration granted August 12th 1786.'

What I can't read may not be significant. I know that Catherine was the eldest daughter if that's at all relevant. Thanks.

tabbey · 04-01-2019 11:43pm

srmf5 wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone can make out the entry for a will abstract. It's at the top left numbered 316.

I can read, 'Kelly Robt Lisnanane Co. Roscommon Esq. to Catherine O'Connor the daughter (?) Celia Nolan (?) the daughter. Administration granted August 12th 1786.'

What I can't read may not be significant. I know that Catherine was the eldest daughter if that's at all relevant. Thanks.

To Catherine O'Connor ... for the use of Celia Nolan ...

pedroeibar1 · 05-01-2019 1:02am

tabbey wrote: »

To Catherine O'Connor ... for the use of Celia Nolan ...

Mmmmm. I think that the 'for the use' is actually 'owise' [otherwise] Kn [known] Celia Nolan Connor the dau [daughter]

tabbey · 05-01-2019 1:08am

pedroeibar1 wrote: »

Mmmmm. I think that the 'for the use' is actually 'owise' [otherwise] Kn [known] Celia Nolan Connor the dau [daughter]

Perhaps.

But why would she have two different christian names? Surnames changed each time she married but not first names.

srmf5 · 05-01-2019 1:09am

tabbey wrote: »

Perhaps.

But why would she have two different christian names? Surnames changed each time she married but not first names.

They're definitely two different women anyway.

spurious · 05-01-2019 2:16am

Two daughters.

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