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DotA 2 General Chat Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kunkka


    FU, add your face to my ass

    x

    You'd enjoy that far too much Paul!
    Dreddybajs wrote: »
    Tried there but Kag1888 doesn't bring up any results. Welcome back mate!

    Will add you guys when I'm on tomorrow. Had a few feeds recently. Big feeds


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Sure what else do ye do, teach me puck pls :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kunkka


    Sure what else do ye do, teach me puck pls :P

    Craig puck is something to behold....


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    got a link to that video about your dota playing by the lad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    I can feel the hate with the radiance/bot/manta Alchemist build

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2128352729


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    I can feel the hate with the radiance/bot/manta Alchemist build

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2128352729

    sorry but that game doesn't even appear close to being balanced in terms of players


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    I actually think radiance/bot/manta build is pretty **** this patch if you're up against a team that knows what they're doing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    BMMachine wrote: »
    sorry but that game doesn't even appear close to being balanced in terms of players

    That's the first time I ever played him. Perhaps for that match, yes it went downhill for them pretty quickly but I think overall the patch, this build can't be touched unless your against a really good Invoker/PA/Bristle alongside an Omni.

    More even matches ->
    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2134903146
    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2135942650

    Not a fan of Octarine Core, 6k item for some cooldowns + bit more tank, prefer AC to help team out when needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    Have any of you seen the "Tesla Ranger" build?

    Basically - build Treads - Aquila - Maelstrom - Scepter - Crits - More maelstroms. I usually don't bother with more than 2 but others go full maelstrom which is ridiculous.

    The split shots give the maelstrom/crit chances aswell as your main shot. Basically you become what Zeus and Razor always wanted to be. If you have an alchemist on your team to build scepter for you - even better.

    Scepter on Drow...yes I know but the rate of farm increase can bring you up to AM gpm. That's how powerful it can be. You will need to get scepter within 25 minutes max before the other team try to take advantage. If on a team with friends, supports stacking camps is always essential once maelstrom is up if you want scepter before minute 20. This is more of a "lolz look at what happens in team fights" build than the usual. I'll try it out tonight and see how it goes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    Have any of you seen the "Tesla Ranger" build?

    Basically - build Treads - Aquila - Maelstrom - Scepter - Crits - More maelstroms. I usually don't bother with more than 2 but others go full 3/4 maelstrom which is ridiculous.

    The split shots give the maelstrom/crit chances aswell as your main shot. Basically you become what Zeus and Razor always wanted to be. If you have an alchemist on your team to build scepter for you - even better.

    Scepter on Drow...yes I know but the rate of farm increase can bring you up to AM gpm. That's how powerful it can be. You will need to get scepter within 25 minutes max before the other team try to take advantage. If on a team with friends, supports stacking camps is always essential once maelstrom is up if you want scepter before minute 20. This is more of a "lolz look at what happens in team fights" build than the usual. I'll try it out tonight and see how it goes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z02PxKqEv0


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    silly and unrealistic build that you will only use in a game you are already winning. power treads, aquila, stick and blink are absolutely core on trax imo. Maybe a yasha before blink pending but after that it really really really depends on the heroes you are facing as regards what to build on her due to the way she does damage and how easy she is to blow up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    I wouldn't call it silly/unrealistic when EternaLEnVy from Team Secret is doing the build during the Shanghai major - granted it's after S&Y/Helm/BKB. It shouldn't be snuffed at.

    Some of the best games I've seen during a tournament as well. Pity about the production behind it, which was an absolute shambles at times. Hopefully they will address it.

    Side note - Love playing Necro with a scepter when the enemy team have a fed carry (Slark) - team winning moments!
    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2200040582


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    hes doing the build because hes got misery, pupper, pieliedie and w33 playing with him.
    what are the chances of that happening in a pub game? very very low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Justice


    The Drow build worked, happened to be matched with u and the wizard for that game.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Aside from all that, the major was a complete disaster in terms of production value and scheduling. If Manila is equally as disastrous I can see this Valve Major thing just going away after TI6.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    Justice wrote: »
    The Drow build worked, happened to be matched with u and the wizard for that game.

    Haha just checked, so you were, what are the odds I wonder! :)

    We had a good lineup in fairness. Plus Tusk/Zeus did a great job pressuring and felt secure in farming anything really. The auras worked perfectly too, we went around tower to tower taking objectives. I never felt the game swing in their favor at any stage. Only 3rd time playing Drow in a real game so still not 100% used to her - I usually play tanks/nukers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Justice


    you ask what the odds were of being matched up are. i would have not thought it likely.
    I suppose ive been playing for a long time, but i do consider myself noobish is some ways but good in others, im a two trick pony (CM and mirana) which, in my head, makes ye better than me. having said that i have a 62% winrate this month and currently sitting on a record high of 26 wins more than losses (which is the number i track).

    I watched first 15 minutes of the replay, the Tusk mid absolutely snowballed that game.
    As a team we were very coordinated, we had good map control, but i do remember the way we bulldozzed through the objectives, i was very impressed at the time. i gave up FB in that match, my vision control was good, I enabled my team very much so but i didnt really had any top plays in that game.

    That match is memorable to me for the coordination our team had as well as playing with yourself, not so much for my own plays.

    i was gunna post the dota buff link, but wasnt sure if you would want your dotabuff posted here, i feel mean discussing the match but not providing a link so others could view details on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Justice


    Aside from all that, the major was a complete disaster in terms of production value and scheduling. If Manila is equally as disastrous I can see this Valve Major thing just going away after TI6.

    looking at reddit today, lot of stuff coming out about perfect world from china.

    IMO majors still a work in progress. get a decent production company to do the majors in the future. so long as plebs (me included) pay for compendiums, its profitable for Valve to organise these.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    Second longest game ever. Enemy team did well from the get go with little to no pressure early.

    Regardless of them doing really well, myself and AM were able to outfarm them with 2 rax gone and plenty of teamfights later, we managed to win.

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2254469191


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    A Slark with 4k hero damage? Ok.


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    The Dota gods were with me the last 2 days. I got Zeus and PA Arcana drops :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    The Dota gods were with me the last 2 days. I got Zeus and PA Arcana drops :D

    didn't you get a Lina arcana drop too?? you're the luckiest ****er! :D


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Dreddybajs wrote: »
    didn't you get a Lina arcana drop too?? you're the luckiest ****er! :D

    Yeah few years ago. I also got the TB arcana drop last year and sold it off :P


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland



    these changes are just completely mad.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    As well as undocmented stuff...
    hP0DgMx.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    Monkey King hero remake perhaps? Could be a different hero to Pit Lord coming out so.

    Have to say the new full items are very...gimmicky? Cool that the Wind Lace was suggested on playdota years ago and taken up.

    Echo Sabre nice pickup on Tiny, Sven, WK? Hurricane pike...drow/sniper/enchant - that's it?

    A.Blade change is such a strange one. Bristle could justify getting it.

    As a player with 112 matches with Axe I'm loving the change to pure damage along with blademail buff - I can now go up against way more heroes and not give a damn. Let's see a non-bkb Invoker try one shot me now!

    Been playing timber offlane (usually solo if possible) in ranked in the last 2 weeks with much success (and fun).

    Overall looks like Icefrog wants to prolong teamfights, reducing the focus on burst damage and adding more tanks to team lineouts.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    a lot of pukestains on the servers recently.

    5 games in a row of players freaking out and either going afk or purposely feeding. this generation of players are just so weak have such a terrible mentality. get mad, spout memes, sh*t all over the game. I wouldn't mind as much if they were actually funny and I wasn't forced to waste my time with them


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    All fine and dandy here.

    Also going to ESL next week, should be fun!


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    just had a game there where the enemy team were fountain hooking for 5 minutes. our "carry" slark player repeatedly fed a wr 2v1 in lane (we had a lion support) and our sf mid repeatedly fed a pudge after we gave him all the help in the world. Also our offlane nyx fed an anti-mage. I wouldnt complain so much if it weren't so god damn consistent.
    "oh you are sh*t and have adjustment issues so you've gone afk and are freaking out placing wards in the base. super"
    I also wouldnt complain if I wasn't forced to wait the games out and could just leave or vote to concede. nothing wrong with losing, but there is something wrong with losing after 3 minutes because the players you have are absolute freaks of nature


    as a side note - the game was far better in the wc3 days on garena. FAR less freaks. and FAR less people pretending they know wtf they are doing because they read a thing on reddit or watched a stream when in actuality they are just terrible players with no game sense and no ability to adapt


    actually no - f*ck this. im going to win a game and uninstall. Im better than this and Im better than the freaks that now populate the game. I have other less stressful, more enjoyable gamesl. I'll just continue watching :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    ya mate maybe this game's not for you


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Seriously man you sound like you're in a completely different game. I cant remember the last time I had a toxic game.

    Really enjoying this patch


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    Oh I love the patch, I think its the best in quite literally years. But my christ, the "GG WE LOST" mentality which is just so f**king toxic and so many players are on the cusp of freaking out. I had a player there tonight literally start feeding mid from level 1 because he didn't get the bounty rune. the very next game - the enemy slark starts feeding because I killed him top. The players nowadays are just so weak willed, walking on eggshells for the entire match because at any given time, some donk might have a full on freak out because he couldnt read the map properly and died because I went back instead of "helping" him. The lack of acceptance of mistakes combined with this new age millenial 'precious' thinking has left me hating playing. Im too old for league play (time mainly :s) so playing pubs is the only real way Im able to play the game and this may sound egotistical but my standards are just way higher than the average player nowadays.

    anyhow, I just won there and managed to reach 5.6k mmr back in april so Im done. Im going to enjoy my summer :p might install again sometime after August


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    on a side note - what have you guys made of the manila major ?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Liquid and OG look sharp. MVP got shellshocked but I think the can deliver later.

    Secret and EG have been a shambles in the making for some months now. Happy to see DC make progress, themselves and Complexity are the top NA teams now I guess.

    Overall some of the games have been good, Na'vi always exciting to watch and happy they managed top 8. Seems they're (kinda) back :)


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    I really like DC but think its pretty hilarious how Moo is the only American on the team :p OG have been looking amazing since the start of the brackets. My pick to win the whole thing, which would be incredible.
    Secret and EG are just laughable, playing musical rosters. I think this tweet sums it up nicely :)

    s3m.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Doodleking


    Has a new Dota 2 toy line been released yet?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    got that battlepas deal and opened zeus arcana on rylais wheel, good times.

    what do you do with immortal repeats, can they ever be sold?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    got that battlepas deal and opened zeus arcana on rylais wheel, good times.

    what do you do with immortal repeats, can they ever be sold?

    Whaaaat get out!

    I think they're sellable at the end of the month.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Doodleking


    Dota 2 pro-players received p1 visas to the USA :D #CyperSportIsTrending


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭fatguy


    Hi folks, details of the Dublin Pubstomp for TI6 finals are here: https://www.facebook.com/events/1110537552333388/


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Take my energy synderwin!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    Wow, the Execration (XctN) vs compLexity Gaming (coL) was amazing to watch. Abed on Meepo was a flurry of death and destruction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    Did anyone watch the EG vs EHOME game? That was an amazing comeback.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    Monkey King hero remake perhaps?

    Success! And Pitlord next week. Good times.

    TI6 was brilliant, love this patch even though I haven't been playing much more watching games. DC really should have banned Void after game 2 in the finals. What a great run they had, they must have been wrecked going into their 10th hour of DOTA that day.

    Hopefully there will be only minor nerfs to the "top tier" hero picks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Just had a 1 hour 20 minute game that was extremely even throughout and came down to ratting from Drow (me) and Invoker vs a Anti Mage, Sniper combo on the other team. They got mega creeps and we had two lanes of rax gone, both mid towers gone. Managed to survive a 5 v 5 at our ancient with 3 lanes of megas coming in and no mid towers, to go down and destroy their ancient from full health with 4 of their heroes trying to kill us. Satanic basically saved me and allowed me to get the extra few hits to take the ancient.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    Installed a fresh win10....what's the boards.ie teamspeak IP again does anyone know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    Guys, it sucks being at <1000 MMR -_- anyone else in my boat? I calibrated the moment it was available and I wasn't very good, and I got put in at 400 or something like that, dipped to 270, climbed slowly to 850, and then had a slew of bad games and back to 600... It's really hard playing with players who may not always have the same attitudes or manners as you may! I'm a lot better than I was but still learning so much...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭grizzly


    J_E wrote: »
    Guys, it sucks being at <1000 MMR -_- anyone else in my boat? I calibrated the moment it was available and I wasn't very good, and I got put in at 400 or something like that, dipped to 270, climbed slowly to 850, and then had a slew of bad games and back to 600... It's really hard playing with players who may not always have the same attitudes or manners as you may! I'm a lot better than I was but still learning so much...

    Some thoughts;

    1. You can re-calibrate using the International ranked system.

    2. The players with bad manners go all the way up to 4k.

    3. If you are a 2/3k player in 600mmr matches you should raise very quickly. The closer you get to your skill level the nearer you will be to 50% win rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Kunkka


    I excel at feeding.


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