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Playboy · 19-06-2015 10:46am #1

Anyone watching the LCS recently? Big game yesterday between Origin and Fnatic... 2 members of old Fnatic on each team (Xpeke and Soaz vs Yellowstar and Rekkles). The game lived up to expectations and was exciting from the word Go! Origin came out the worst from a couple of early trades which easily could have gone their way but the turning point was Niels getting caught by Huni in midlane which gave Fnatic an early baron which Origin contested as 4 and died.

I was surprised though as I thought Origin had a far superior Team Fighting composition (Heca, Gragas, Azir, Sivir, Annie) in comparison to Fnatic (Ekko, Olaf, Viktor, Kalista, Janna). Xpeke didnt really perform on Azir and tbh I'm not a big fan of that champ. He is strong in lane, has good poke and mobility but he just doesnt lay down enough damage in a Team Fight and he is mechanically too complex for the results you get.

It is so refreshing though to see two european teams be agressive and take risks rather than playing a passive and boring style that has plagued the division for so long.

Fnatic are really showing how strong they are now in every department. Yellowstar is turning out to be a fantastic shotcaller and Huni imo is far and away the best player in the EU LCS. Given how strong Fnatic were in Mid Season Invitational (taking SKT to 5 games in the Semi's) in what was the first split this team played together and with a sub standard ADC, it really looks good for Fnatic in being able to truly compete at Worlds. For too long the EU and NA have lagged behind China and Korea but finally EU seems to be making some inroads. NA look further away than ever though

I also dont think its a bad thing that Fnatic have imported two Koreans as it means the rest of the EU can learn and hopefully raise their game to adapt.

Really disappointed with UoL at the moment. Not sure whats up with them but they seem to be tilting really badly and making far too many mistakes in game.

YouSavedMyLife · 19-06-2015 2:22pm

Only watched the OG vs FNC game yesterday and it was very exciting, action from the get go. Also noticed that Elements won a game too, what a shocker

Playboy · 20-06-2015 2:04am

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Only watched the OG vs FNC game yesterday and it was very exciting, action from the get go. Also noticed that Elements won a game too, what a shocker

Yes a shocker! To be fair I think the penny has finally dropped with them. They were the poster boys for this horrible passive play-style in Europe and they seem to be doing better now that they have been trying to go more aggressive. Froggen's mid Ekko is quite good and a nice change for him.

SeantheMan · 21-06-2015 5:09am

Too many games to keep up with these days between NA LCS, EU LCS and LCK.
Though there are some highlights only channels which really help with catching up on the games.

The big tournaments are great where you can just veg out for a week and watch full games

Playboy · 25-06-2015 10:29am

Big game this in Europe with Fnatic taking on H2k. Both teams look top drawer at the moment so it will be interesting to see who come out on top. Both Fnatic and H2k have also moved up the international power rankings overall with Fnatic now listed as 6th.

UoL are also hopefully back on track after a win last week which consolidates their 4th place position. It would be nice if they could pull off a couple of wins as a semi-final 4 of Fnatic, H2k, Origen and UoL will make for great entertainment. UoL I always feel only really shine in a best of 5 so if they make it to the playoffs then they could surprise people.

Korvanica · 25-06-2015 4:45pm

It'll be a good game alright between Fnatic and H2K. Rest of them not so much i think. possibly UoL v Giants. Think UoL will take that.

HOLO HOLO HOLO HOLO HOLO HOLO !

Playboy · 26-06-2015 1:22pm

Korvanica wrote: »

It'll be a good game alright between Fnatic and H2K. Rest of them not so much i think. possibly UoL v Giants. Think UoL will take that.

HOLO HOLO HOLO HOLO HOLO HOLO !

UoL failed again even though looking the far better team for most of the game at both macro and micro level. What has let them down massively in this split is their champion pool. They are not playing very many meta champs and this is causing them massive issues in closing out games.

If we take their game versus Giants. The line up was;

Shen (Top) - Pocket pick... not convinced by it at all as you are losing a threat when people are running regular triple threat compositions

Lee Sin (Jungle) - Far better junglers out there at the moment .. Gragas, Rek'sai, Sejuani, Nunu... even Olaf is being used really effectively by Fnatic.

Syndra (Mid) - Not really a strong pick in this meta but PoE is playing her just because he is comfortable on her. It doesnt feel like there is a strategy here.

Morgana (Support) - Not really meta but Hylissang is really good on her. Would prefer to see more Nautilus and Alistair

Jinx (Adc) - Not a bad pick but nowhere near as strong as Sivir or Kalista

They need to really look at their style and picks and make some big adjustments if they are going to succeed. Their macro strategy is good but its not enough to carry them in sub par team comps.

YouSavedMyLife · 26-06-2015 7:09pm

That Olaf axe in the fnatic game doe!

n1ck · 29-06-2015 9:16am

Playboy wrote: »

Lee Sin (Jungle) - Far better junglers out there at the moment .. Gragas, Rek'sai, Sejuani, Nunu... even Olaf is being used really effectively by Fnatic.

Tell that to Rush!

Playboy · 29-06-2015 11:21am

n1ck wrote: »

Tell that to Rush!

Well to be fair C9 are really awful at the moment! However he is a pretty amazing Lee player and he was top notch in that game.

Playboy · 29-06-2015 11:24am

Anyone see Fenix Azir plays for Team Liquid vs CLG at the weekend? Quadra kill is pretty amazing. Not really been a big fan of Azir but I think players and teams are getting more comfortable on him and we are starting to see more of his potential to make plays.

YouSavedMyLife · 29-06-2015 1:28pm

Damn that was nice. I played Azir a lot after his release, he was sleeper OP. He hits a huge power spike after his 3rd item. When they nerfed his soldier attack range I played one game and failed hard with him and haven't touched him since. I think they brought the range back up but not to the same values it was after release. He's lots of fun to play though

n1ck · 30-06-2015 5:11pm

I hate Azir, feel like he's strong throughout the game and he's really hard to lane against.

SeantheMan · 08-07-2015 1:09am

Can anyone post some of their favourite matchups this season, I've not watched any of this Split ....but if you can recall a few great games I'll happily go watch the Highlights. EU LCS / LCK / NA LCS or LPL

Playboy · 08-07-2015 9:50pm

TDK vs TSM last week and Fnatic vs Origen were the two that stood out for me

Playboy · 11-07-2015 11:12pm

Kickis has left UoL which is really strange as they have a strong shot at playoffs and worlds still. Very odd to leave half way through the season. Think UoL will really struggle without him as he is a top jungler and will be very hard to replace. If they are smart they should try and poach Dexter from Elements.

Fnatic vs Origen was awesome! Origen ran them really close. You could say they threw it away but Fnatic are just so strong at teamfighting and their decision making is on another level. I really think they have a shot at challenging the Korean/Chinese dominance at worlds.

n1ck · 12-07-2015 1:47pm

Apparently Kikis had problems living in the house and the practise schedule or something, it wasn't performance related.

IvySlayer · 13-07-2015 4:03am

That Piglet steal :ooooooooo

n1ck · 13-07-2015 2:43pm

Just an update on Kikis, it's rumoured he's in talks with C9.

Playboy · 13-07-2015 2:55pm

n1ck wrote: »

Just an update on Kikis, it's rumoured he's in talks with C9.

Wow... They are really struggling at the moment so a strange choice. Hai is their jungler now and its still not working out.

n1ck · 13-07-2015 3:25pm

Playboy wrote: »

Wow... They are really struggling at the moment so a strange choice. Hai is their jungler now and its still not working out.

A lot of their team aren't performing really, Balls has been bottom of nearly all the stats for top laners, Lemonnation... well, he sucks and Hai isn't mechanically strong but his shot calling is strong.

I don't see how bringing Kikis in will help because they're still going to lack a strong top and support. Incarnati0n has also been a big flop but with a mechanically better jungle presence that may change.

n1ck · 15-07-2015 4:56pm

Kikis joined Gamers2, oh dear

Playboy · 15-07-2015 10:04pm

n1ck wrote: »

Kikis joined Gamers2, oh dear

What an odd choice for him

Anyone get tickets for the Worlds quarter finals today?

Korvanica · 16-07-2015 10:44am

No didn't try. Gonna have a go for the Finals though. Flights bought, going to Berlin whether i get tickets or not. Myself and about 5 mates. Should be great !

Playboy · 16-07-2015 11:46am

n1ck wrote: »

Kikis joined Gamers2, oh dear

And their old jungler who was with Gamers2 (Gilius) has come the other way. He left last time due to 'personality' issues. Very odd choice given they are on the cusp of Worlds.

Playboy · 16-07-2015 11:48am

Korvanica wrote: »

No didn't try. Gonna have a go for the Finals though. Flights bought, going to Berlin whether i get tickets or not. Myself and about 5 mates. Should be great !

I got front row tickets for the Thursday in London and not so good tickets for Sunday. I went last time at Wembley arena and it was good craic so hope it will be even better for Worlds.

n1ck · 16-07-2015 1:33pm

Playboy wrote: »

And their old jungler who was with Gamers2 (Gilius) has come the other way. He left last time due to 'personality' issues. Very odd choice given they are on the cusp of Worlds.

Yeah, he is famously toxic and a lot of people hate him so I don't see how it's a good thing for UOL at all considering a lot of people liked them!

Playboy · 16-07-2015 3:09pm

n1ck wrote: »

Yeah, he is famously toxic and a lot of people hate him so I don't see how it's a good thing for UOL at all considering a lot of people liked them!

It beggars belief that Kickis couldnt be persuaded to complete the season and try and compete for worlds. Sounds like something went down, PoE had really poor body language with him at the end of his last game.

IvySlayer · 16-07-2015 4:39pm

I like UOL because they try new things and Kikis brought out jungle TF/Gnar/Udyr/Shaco/Wukong in competitive play

Playboy · 17-07-2015 9:42am

UoL were spanked by SK yesterday with the new jungler going 1-7 on Lee Sin. Lee Sin was also locked in as first pick by UoL. So with all the top the tier champs available... they pick Lee Sin

Is Lee Sin the only jungler he can play or are they building a team comp around the guy who just joined the team? They have just kissed worlds goodbye, what a bunch of idiots. I dont understand how professionals can act so unprofessionally... how hard is it to put your ego aside for a few weeks so you can compete at the pinnacle of the game.. a chance you may never get again. Ridiculous.

Playboy · 17-07-2015 9:43am

Oh and Huni played Riven and did great on her! Holo holo holo holo

Korvanica · 17-07-2015 1:42pm

Holo holo holo holo

Goddam LOVE Huni

IvySlayer · 19-07-2015 8:48pm

Gangplank and Yi in LCS wtf is this

ZorbaTehZ · 23-07-2015 3:20pm

IvySlayer wrote: »

Gangplank and Yi in LCS wtf is this

Sorry but I don't care what the meta is like, picking Yi in an LCS game is ff20.

n1ck · 23-07-2015 6:40pm

ZorbaTehZ wrote: »

Sorry but I don't care what the meta is like, picking Yi in an LCS game is ff20.

FF at 20 for the team picking or what? Because faker played it and wrecked face

Playboy · 24-07-2015 3:55pm

UoL guaranteed 4th place at least with a lucky win over Giants. It ended in a crazy base race that Giants didnt need to do and somehow Unicorns won it against the odds. Not convinced by their new jungler yet but they have still pulled off some good results so credit to them.

Fnatic continue their dominance with a convincing win over SK Gaming. Yellowstar playing Trundle support! 1 game away from a perfect season with only UoL standing in their way.

Origen and H2K play a very close game with Origen coming out on top but the lead swung many times in the course of the game. Origen now establising themselves as the second best team in Europe and securing a semi final place. Really hope they manage to go to worlds. Soaz coming out recently with some big performances but Amazing not looking great.

IvySlayer · 27-07-2015 8:35pm

TIP vs TL last night was fantastic to watch. Really highly recommend it :P

Playboy · 16-08-2015 6:43pm

Fnatic looking so so good! Demolished UoL 3-0. Origen also looking good after taking apart H2K 3-1. Should be an interesting final but expect Fnatic to win 3-1 or 3-0.

I have been watching a lof of Korean, Chinese and NA league recently and I really think Fnatic are on par with the top teams from those regions. Their pick and ban phase is just so strong and they seem to prepare really well. Potentially they look better than they are because the level of competition is lower in EU in comparison to China/Korea but I expect them to go far at worlds.

Playboy · 17-08-2015 4:15pm

EDG surprisingly lose two best of five on the bounce and finish 4th in China! Bad time to tilt!

YouSavedMyLife · 17-08-2015 5:15pm

Steeelback Fnatic brought SKT to 5 games during MSI. I saw Jatt doing some statistics comparison of Steeelback and Rekkles and Rekkles is a better ADC in EVERY facet of the game. This is the biggest chance a western team ever had of winning worlds and i really do feel its possible

Playboy · 17-08-2015 10:53pm

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Steeelback Fnatic brought SKT to 5 games during MSI. I saw Jatt doing some statistics comparison of Steeelback and Rekkles and Rekkles is a better ADC in EVERY facet of the game. This is the biggest chance a western team ever had of winning worlds and i really do feel its possible

Since they won it in season one

SeantheMan · 18-08-2015 5:04am

Are any of you going to go to the Quarters in London ?

Playboy · 18-08-2015 5:13pm

SeantheMan wrote: »

Are any of you going to go to the Quarters in London ?

I have tickets for the first night and the Sunday night. First night I have front row seats and Sunday I have the crappy seats. Not sure if I'm going yet though as its the missus birthday so may need to do something else. If I'm not going I can let people on here have the tickets at cost if they want them.

Playboy · 25-08-2015 2:52pm

So Origen put up a great showing in the final vs Fnatic. I think if Origen had managed to hold on a little longer they could have won the final game. Fantastic flank by Yellowstar with Tibbers over the wall to win the final fight. I think Origen made a mistake by picking Azir... Peke just didnt perform on it.

Really hope Origen make it through the playoffs now and secure the 3rd place at worlds as they have proved themselves as comfortably the second best team in Europe. Giving Fnatic a run for their money also means they could quite possibly perform well on the world stage as Fnatic are currently ranked 4 in the world. It will be tough for them with a 3rd place seeding though. Soaz's GP was also a joy to watch... he needs to be on carry champs! With Soaz on a tank Origen are very predictable because Xpeke plays very safe from mid and doesnt play to carry any more. That puts everything on Niels in the bot lane so shut him down and you shut Origen down.

Also CLG look great and destroy TSM! Really pleased as I think they are a far better team in comparison to TSM. Zionspartan played an amazing series and he is another player who adds another dimension to their team when on a carry. Xsmithie isnt a great jungler so stick him on a tank like Gragas or Ekko and put Aphromoo on a tank like Braum or Alistair and then you have a great triple threat from that team. Zions Yasou was awesome to watch and Pobelter is so good on Viktor.

All in all its shaping up to be a great worlds. Not sure whats going on in China though.. Are EDG out now?

IvySlayer · 25-08-2015 3:59pm

I'm glad CLG stomped TSM. I like all their players. TSMs strategy of Bjergsen carrying didn't work this time round :P

I can see Wildturtle and Santorin leaving

Origen actually fcuked up in the last game, Soaz had a free inhib, but TP'd in for a fight that didn't happen around baron. Take the inhib, then baron.

Playboy · 25-08-2015 4:47pm

Bjergsen and Lustboy are the only two top tier players on that team. Dyrus has such a limited champion pool... he literally can only play tanks top and Wild Turtle has been hot and cold for a while now. Santorin is an ok jungler but there are far better out there (Move, Rush etc). I think they will be badly shown up at worlds and there will be a clear out after.

n1ck · 26-08-2015 10:56am

IvySlayer wrote: »

Origen actually fcuked up in the last game, Soaz had a free inhib, but TP'd in for a fight that didn't happen around baron. Take the inhib, then baron.

At the time, Soaz hadn't even gotten the tower so he had to get in in time to not leave his team engaging with 4.

IvySlayer · 27-08-2015 4:55am

n1ck wrote: »

At the time, Soaz hadn't even gotten the tower so he had to get in in time to not leave his team engaging with 4.

AD Fizz with trinity force, would've melted it :P

Also, I can't stand Krepos casting. Spends too much time talking and nitpicks everything. Keeps blabbing on about teams mistakes too. He is new enough and maybe with experience he'll get better.

Playboy · 27-08-2015 1:42pm

IvySlayer wrote: »

AD Fizz with trinity force, would've melted it :P

Also, I can't stand Krepos casting. Spends too much time talking and nitpicks everything. Keeps blabbing on about teams mistakes too. He is new enough and maybe with experience he'll get better.

Really? I think he is by far the best analyst, his understanding of the game is far superior to most and he is clear and understandable. His love of Braum is a bit annoying though! The guy never shuts up about him!

SeantheMan · 28-08-2015 1:08am

The Korean Final is on tomorrow SKT vs KT, only 40 mins away from me.
I'd love to go to the studio and watch the game...but she already made plans for us

Didn't realise the day was so close

Korvanica · 28-08-2015 10:04am

IvySlayer wrote: »

AD Fizz with trinity force, would've melted it :P

Also, I can't stand Krepos casting. Spends too much time talking and nitpicks everything. Keeps blabbing on about teams mistakes too. He is new enough and maybe with experience he'll get better.

That's what I love about Krepo. He brings in another level of depth to the casting desk.

Playboy wrote: »

Really? I think he is by far the best analyst, his understanding of the game is far superior to most and he is clear and understandable. His love of Braum is a bit annoying though! The guy never shuts up about him!

In fairness, Braum is pretty much the ultimate support. Krepo loves Braum as much as Deficio love Denmark

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