Finn "Prince Devitt" Bálor Thread (Raw Spoilers ahoy!)

CastorTroy · 21-11-2017 7:51pm

Anyone else find his screams/shouts really weird?

sirmanga · 21-11-2017 8:13pm

Finn doesn't have much dynamism about him.
And in the Survivor Series match, he looked tiny. Especially when Cena held him like a child.
He is an IC title guy at most. Don't get the hype at all.

Lithium93_ · 21-11-2017 8:16pm

sirmanga wrote: »

Finn doesn't have much dynamism about him.
And in the Survivor Series match, he looked tiny. Especially when Cena held him like a child.
He is an IC title guy at most. Don't get the hype at all.

Sub to New Japan World, and watch back his New Japan stuff, that's where the hype comes from, he's being wasted in WWE.

Mr.Nice Guy · 21-11-2017 8:18pm

I like Finn but I'm pleased that match with Brock is off. I couldn't buy him as a credible threat to Brock, and certainly not now after the way Kane destroyed him with ease. Sticking on some paint wouldn't have changed that.

I think he needs a heel turn. Stick him with Gallows and Anderson who are floundering and see if the three of them can ignite a bit of buzz.

RobbingBandit · 21-11-2017 8:29pm

Eddie beat Brock so did Angle, Finn would be a little taller than Eddie maybe not as built but similar style Brock is just set up as rarely beatable but he has lost to smaller men, it would be a massive surprise to see Finn take a hiding but still topple Brock.

Rjd2 · 21-11-2017 9:10pm

He has been in dead feuds with Elias and the abysmal Bray and got squashed by ****ing Kane, of course he isn't over, but heh wins and losses don't matter:rolleyes:

Mr. Guappa · 21-11-2017 9:30pm

Finn has suffered the same fate as a slew of recent NXT call ups. Off the top of my head, Nakamura, Roode, Bayley and Balor were all introduced to the main roster as something special from NXT, but fans who don't watch NXT were never given much of a reason to care.

None of the above have done anything on the main roster to give fans a reason to care. As a heel, Samoa Joe has fared better than the above, and at least has a reasonably defined character. Asuka seems to be getting a better introduction too, with video packages leading to her debut, and now being strongly booked. Let's see how long that lasts though.

DM_7 · 21-11-2017 10:14pm

Finn is grand.

Right now he is not the favoured guy to face Brock, I am not surprised by that since Brock faced AJ in a competitive bout and AJ would be like Finn in many ways.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Finn head to Smackdown soon in a trade. Probably better off away from RAW, they can't ignore Braun, Shield won't stay together for long.

Shapey Fiend · 21-11-2017 10:59pm

His problem is too many fecking kicks. I'm watching the Balor x Samoa Joe match now and he's literally got about 6 moves that are kicks in a row. Needs a change of moveset pronto. He's really good at loads of things I don't know why he's insisting on this one note performance every single match. Like there's nothing for the other guy to do in this situation either except fall over so it doesn't even matter who he's wrestling.

The Ayatolla · 21-11-2017 11:12pm

I don't agree with the "watch back his New Japan stuff" narrative.

Look at AJ - he's raised the bar from his NJPW performances and is light years ahead of Finn.

The demon thing is a poisoned chalice. People love it, but 95% of the time when he isn't dressed up, folks will just think "meh".

At Survivor Series in particular, he was lost amongst those stars unfortunately. And he didn't maximise his time in the match. He was as dull as they come.

sky88 · 21-11-2017 11:17pm

Finn was a bit plain in new japan untill he turned heel with the bullet club and did his best stuff.

But wwe right now are terrible at getting faces over right now

DM_7 · 21-11-2017 11:32pm

sky88 wrote: »

Finn was a bit plain in new japan untill he turned heel with the bullet club and did his best stuff.

But wwe right now are terrible at getting faces over right now

Heel is will get you over, face will get you booed.

Even Daniel Bryan got over thank to his heel work where he took the piss out of himself and had a pile of fun on TV with Kane.

AJ Styles is now universally liked because he nailed his heel run.

They should book most of them in a way that makes them look good and let people cheer who they want. People have no bother choosing sides for a UFC or boxing bout.

ERG89 · 22-11-2017 12:19am

The Ayatolla wrote:

Look at AJ - he's raised the bar from his NJPW performances and is light years ahead of Finn.

Styles was always one of the best wrestlers in the world for like 13 years.
I think his natural ability helps. He's light years ahead of the rest of the WWE roster.
Had a fun run as a heel even if he was jobbed out too often the last year or so. Advantage Styles has is he's more used to working different (pardon the pun) styles in front of different audiences.
AJ skipping NXT was a huge plus too; feck all genuine character development there & the only significant thing most gain is a good entrance theme. AJ from the second he debuted was over instantly. Didn't need to take dumbass pictures for social media with HHH or Regal after winning a title.
Finn was over initially as he was treated like a big deal but a big injury (which never helps in Vince's eyes) followed by a return where they didn't know what to do with him was a huge red flag.
A heel turn might help as WWE don't know how to push faces without making them look like idiots or irrelevant in certain instances.

The Ayatolla · 22-11-2017 9:54am

Given Gallows / Anderson are at the depths of despair as well, there's no better time than have them turn heel.

Perhaps give it until the Royal Rumble, and have them interfere to help Finn win the whole thing.

Furious-Red · 22-11-2017 1:02pm

Yea i tink a heel turn with Gallows/Anderson would be good. Even a programme against the shield would be good to get them over (although they would need to make Roman look strong)

The Ayatolla · 22-11-2017 1:10pm

if Roman doesn't go through with Brock at Mania (we live and hope), then they could do the Club vs Shield for IC / Tag Titles in a winner takes all match. Provided Ambrose / Rollins get them back.

Endless options.

LeeJM · 22-11-2017 1:15pm

A reunion with Gallows and Anderson and an interpromotional match against The New Day at Mania would be fine by me. I love Finn but he does need a heel turn. A move to Smackdown along with his BC buds after Mania and a potential feud with AJ seems an easy way to go. Could also do Balor vs Nak on Smackdown and if they actually plan things out I can see Zayn and Owens being turned face by the time Mania 35 rolls around and a face Owens vs heel Balor could be great.

The White Feather · 23-11-2017 12:44am

Fantastic tweet from Finn!

https://twitter.com/FinnBalor/status/933428480234180608

Note the upper case characters!

Agent Coulson · 23-11-2017 12:47am

Balor Club could do with a few more actual wrestling members.

PTH2009 · 23-11-2017 2:40am

look at our other Irish hero Sheamus, the man has won numerous titles including world titles, tag titles, mid card titles, a KOTR and a Royal Rumble in his career so far and has been both face and heel. He was/is booked well overall (some bits may of been iffy like some of the King Sheamus stuff and his debut ECW run) and prob has a few years left.

Finn might just need more time on the main roster and who knows what would of happened if he didn't get injured after winning the universal title. it would be a massive shame if he left WWE In the next year or 2 not reaching his potential. Finn has so many potential feuds in the next few years

Balor vs Alisater Black/Nakamura/Styles/Adam Cole/Strong/Rollins/Ambrose/Roode/KO/Zayn among others

sky88 · 23-11-2017 10:59pm

https://twitter.com/FinnBalor/status/933813256564723712

The Ayatolla · 24-11-2017 12:10am

He's right, he's not over.

Acceptance is the first step.

brianregan09 · 24-11-2017 12:56am

keep tweeting **** like that and he's just Zack Ryder

DM_7 · 24-11-2017 9:35am

brianregan09 wrote: »

keep tweeting **** like that and he's just Zack Ryder

He has used twitter to make light of 'newz' for a long time.

J. Marston · 01-12-2017 2:34am

Great video made by someone on r/squaredcircle...

https://streamable.com/rr8kw

Never seen the close-up of him popping his shoulder back in. Some Lethal Weapon shít.

Really hope he can turn it around or WWE give him the chance to. Whichever.

HandsomeBob · 01-12-2017 8:17am

People will care if you make them want to care. His match against Styles and his brief flirtation with Naka are two examples of putting him in an exciting scenario and the fans duly responding.

The reality is that it's only the rare beasts that stay over even in spite of poor, even contemptuous, booking. Bryan was the last of that breed.

connemara man · 01-12-2017 8:46am

https://twitter.com/FinnBalor/status/936417817326473216

The White Feather · 14-12-2017 6:28pm

Finn went with Cathy Kelley to the recent Knicks v Lakers game at MSG. Looks like they are still together!

https://twitter.com/CometCoil/status/940772609066700800

HandsomeBob · 11-03-2018 6:12am

I've been noticing lately through his Instagram that Finn is starting to look a bit unnatural. Smaller version of Mahal essentially. For fear of a leggo lecture he's either living like a monk permanently in the gym or something else is at play.

P.s. bet when you saw this thread bumped you feared the worst so apologies. :pac:

Loughc · 11-03-2018 12:05pm

HandsomeBob wrote: »

I've been noticing lately through his Instagram that Finn is starting to look a bit unnatural. Smaller version of Mahal essentially. For fear of a leggo lecture he's either living like a monk permanently in the gym or something else is at play.

P.s. bet when you saw this thread bumped you feared the worst so apologies. :pac:

Funny you mention it as he only posted this to Instagram yesterday.

https://instagram.com/p/BgKaAoan4r3/

He tagged a few gyms and the performance centre. So I imagine he’s living in the gym these days. He’d hardly bring attention to it if it was something else.

Bounty Hunter · 11-03-2018 2:38pm

To be honest to him he has always been ripped but now that he is hitting the gyms he is getting a bit bigger and how ripped he is stands out way more on a big dude.

They used to be hitting the bars everynight when on the road but these days it's more youtube/podcast channels, gaming or gymming it up wrestlers spend their time with. He had to leave his legos in florida and needs something to replace it, the gym it is.

HandsomeBob · 11-03-2018 2:47pm

It's a shame as I thought he had one of the best physiques in the place as he was. It's weird as I would of thought maintaining such a physique would have been harder than pumping weights for hours a day. Not that I'm disrespecting pumping weights or the work that goes into it, but Finn had the type of body that would have demanded discipline in a lot of aspects of his life.

Based on the pic Loughc posted he's looking more generic now (by WWE standards).

Pentecost · 11-03-2018 2:50pm

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

To be honest to him he has always been ripped but now that he is hitting the gyms he is getting a bit bigger and how ripped he is stands out way more on a big dude.

They used to be hitting the bars everynight when on the road but these days it's more youtube/podcast channels, gaming or gymming it up wrestlers spend their time with. He had to leave his legos in florida and needs something to replace it, the gym it is.

Given he apparently has Cathy as well I can think of other ways of passing the time.

Agent Coulson · 11-03-2018 4:29pm

Pentecost wrote: »

Given he apparently has Cathy as well I can think of other ways of passing the time.

She doesn't go on the road so releasing all the pent up stuff in the gym :pac:

CastorTroy · 11-03-2018 5:28pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

She doesn't go on the road so releasing all the pent up stuff in the gym :pac:

That sounds messy

DM_7 · 11-03-2018 7:38pm

Finn is not that big. Ripped but not a big guy at all.

He had a bigger frame back in New Japan, when he went to heavyweight, than in his WWE run.

That Finn pic is also not him in his pasty white skin tone, the wee bit of colour pops everything. He probably been out in the sun.

Shapey Fiend · 11-03-2018 10:03pm

I know feck all about this kind of thing but I think the Japanese style is to just do exercise without much equipment. Do 200 bajillion squats and pressups then call it a day. He's probably getting into doing weights now which would give you a different look. Presume the WWE docs are throwing any sort of borderline legal performance enhancers at them like sweets as well.

brianblaze · 12-03-2018 12:02am

100% achievable naturally, especially if it's your job to be in shape. (And if your boss highly values that aspect!)

sky88 · 12-03-2018 2:20am

Roman and seth seem to enjoy finn anyway

https://twitter.com/botchedmoves/status/972978171552333824?s=19

DM_7 · 12-03-2018 10:08am

Honestly think he looked more jacked in New Japan, back when he moved to heavyweight. Looking back on some of thefootage and pics back with Bad Luck Fale and when he was the real rock n rolla anyway.

montyrebel · 13-03-2018 12:25pm

i wish my body looked a 10th that good

sky88 · 23-03-2018 12:23am

Thank god for the man or woman who thought finn how to style himself

https://twitter.com/ZaQ5322/status/976950216350994432?s=19

JP Liz V1 · 23-03-2018 12:51am

sky88 wrote: »

Thank god for the man or woman who thought finn how to style himself

https://twitter.com/ZaQ5322/status/976950216350994432?s=19

Looks like someone Lulu Walsh would put in a boyband on Your A Star in the 00s

beakerjoe · 23-03-2018 1:07pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Looks like someone Lulu Walsh would put in a boyband on Your A Star in the 00s

More like an extra out of a irish panto production of Guys and Dolls

Furious-Red · 23-03-2018 10:02pm

sky88 wrote: »

Thank god for the man or woman who thought finn how to style himself

https://twitter.com/ZaQ5322/status/976950216350994432?s=19

Its more like when you get invited to your first underage party when you were like 14

JP Liz V1 · 10-10-2019 4:19pm

Back full time to NXT, help ratings, a good move, less money or more?

RobbingBandit · 10-10-2019 4:23pm

I'd love to see Finn win the rumble and fight The Fiend at wrestlemania next year Demon Vs Fiend inferno main event

brianblaze · 10-10-2019 5:37pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Back full time to NXT, help ratings, a good move, less money or more?

Same downside, assume he'll be doing European, Asian and Australian tours too. I'd hope he got some incentive to move other than less house shows but strikes me as the type who'd be happy to not have to do as much of the manic travel for more time at home with the new wife!

B.A._Baracus · 11-10-2019 11:40am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Back full time to NXT, help ratings, a good move, less money or more?

Total ratings move to help squash AEW. Debuts just after the first match as AEW has their debut show too. Totally trying to keep/grab viewers to their NXT product.

As for the same or more money? It's no secret that you make money on house shows in WWE. Selling merch etc. So if he is in NXT full time he won't have the same house show money. But WWE would reward him in some other way. As he is Finn Balor, not joe jobber told to go back down to NXT.

My predictions is he is in for a big money run after he leaves NXT. Probably some big mania match.

JP Liz V1 · 26-07-2020 12:44am

Looks like Edge wants a match with Finn and vice versa, when is Edge due back in ring? Could it happen?

Finn "Prince Devitt" Bálor Thread (Raw Spoilers ahoy!)

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