Metallica Superthread -All Metallica discussion goes in here

skallywag · 13-10-2019 7:57pm

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I pretty much enjoy everything the band has done

I think everything after Justice went down a different road, with the exception of Sad but True.

Again, this is from someone who also plays the riffs. If you pick up a guitar and try to play what they do, then it's pretty obvious, to me at least.

Have we any other dinasours like me who still play thrash on this thread?!

Church on Tuesday · 13-10-2019 8:00pm

skallywag wrote: »

I think everything after Justice went down a different road, with the exception of Sad but True.

Again, this is from someone who also plays the riffs. If you pick up a guitar and try to play what they do, then it's pretty obvious, to me at least.

Have we any other dinasours like me who still play thrash on this thread?!

I'd rather jam along to stuff from the first four records tbh

Wrongway1985 · 13-10-2019 8:01pm

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

More a Justice guy myself.

That's hardly surprising, I felt our discussion was pretty baseless :pac:

Granadino · 13-10-2019 8:08pm

skallywag wrote: »

I think everything after Justice went down a different road, with the exception of Sad but True.

Again, this is from someone who also plays the riffs. If you pick up a guitar and try to play what they do, then it's pretty obvious, to me at least.

Have we any other dinasours like me who still play thrash on this thread?!

I'd love to start a thrash metal covers band!

Wanderer78 · 13-10-2019 8:16pm

Granadino wrote:

I'd love to start a thrash metal covers band!

Make sure you include some exodus

skallywag · 14-10-2019 8:33am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Make sure you include some exodus

Big +1 one to that, in fact it motivates me to look up the tab to Toxic Waltz later on! :pac:

Lithium93_ · 14-10-2019 10:27am

Granadino wrote: »

I'd love to start a thrash metal covers band!

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Make sure you include some exodus

Along with some Testament, Death Angel, Overkill (not the Motorhead album)

Thepoet85 · 14-10-2019 10:31am

Wrongway1985 wrote:

That's hardly surprising, I felt our discussion was pretty baseless

Quality ha

Church on Tuesday · 14-10-2019 10:42am

Thepoet85 wrote: »

Quality ha

I know right?

Motley Crue · 15-10-2019 8:45am

Still loving Metallica. Haven't seen them live in years now mind....

PTH2009 · 15-10-2019 11:13am

Motley Crue wrote: »

Still loving Metallica. Haven't seen them live in years now mind....

Great to hear from u again Motley Crue been quite a while

skallywag · 17-10-2019 5:25pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Along with some Testament, Death Angel, Overkill (not the Motorhead album)

Man, that just brought the tune 'the years of decay' to mind, I think I had forgotten about it the best part of 30 years. What a tune.

Sorry, back on topic now!

Degag · 25-10-2019 10:48am

Sad but True came on the radio the other evening and it got me thinking.... when the rare occasion occurs that Metallica are played on mainstream radio, it is invariably Enter Sandman or NEM. Barring SBT, the only other songs I can remember being played are Whiskey and (strangely?) Hero of the Day. Anyone heard any deeper cuts?

Wanderer78 · 25-10-2019 10:49am

Degag wrote: »

Sad but True came on the radio the other evening and it got me thinking.... when the rare occasion occurs that Metallica are played on mainstream radio, it is invariably Enter Sandman or NEM. Barring SBT, the only other songs I can remember being played are Whiskey and =(strangely?) Hero of the Day. Anyone heard any deeper cuts?

bring back the 2fm metal show!

skallywag · 25-10-2019 10:57am

'One' used to get played quite a bit in the late 80's, though I cannot recall now whether that was that on MTV or on the radio, most likely the former.

Mental Mickey · 25-10-2019 11:38am

Degag wrote: »

Sad but True came on the radio the other evening and it got me thinking.... when the rare occasion occurs that Metallica are played on mainstream radio, it is invariably Enter Sandman or NEM. Barring SBT, the only other songs I can remember being played are Whiskey and (strangely?) Hero of the Day. Anyone heard any deeper cuts?

Hero Of The Day is a great song

klose · 25-10-2019 1:03pm

Degag wrote: »

Sad but True came on the radio the other evening and it got me thinking.... when the rare occasion occurs that Metallica are played on mainstream radio, it is invariably Enter Sandman or NEM. Barring SBT, the only other songs I can remember being played are Whiskey and (strangely?) Hero of the Day. Anyone heard any deeper cuts?

Untill it sleeps and memory remains?

Ash.J.Williams · 27-10-2019 12:44am

I remember i was into bon jovi and def leppard at 12 yo and i was watching TOTP as ya did and next thing the One video came on ....life changing moment ...

the pre internet days, trying to hold the song in your head until you get your hands on a copy

Lithium93_ · 28-10-2019 6:04pm

Thin Lizzy's Eric Bell has come out and branded Metallica “a pack of b******s” for not paying him for an appearance at their Dublin show, 20 years ago.

https://www.thesun.ie/tvandshowbiz/music/4704783/thin-lizzy-guitarist-eric-bell/

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/thin-lizzy-guitarist-eric-bell-slams-metallica-for-failing-to-pay-him-for-guest-appearance-20-years-ago/?fbclid=IwAR3xeECXOFkezfquts4uwHbqyBgGXcoOOXiJXV4kZu7FUCIkrQ4Peo6FQi4

He told the Irish Sun that he joined METALLICA on their private plane as they made their way from the U.K. to Dublin. He expected to receive around 2000 euros (approximately $2,200) for his appearance — although he admitted that there was no agreement on the fee.

Church on Tuesday · 28-10-2019 8:02pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Thin Lizzy's Eric Bell has come out and branded Metallica “a pack of b******s” for not paying him for an appearance at their Dublin show, 20 years ago.

https://www.thesun.ie/tvandshowbiz/music/4704783/thin-lizzy-guitarist-eric-bell/

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/thin-lizzy-guitarist-eric-bell-slams-metallica-for-failing-to-pay-him-for-guest-appearance-20-years-ago/?fbclid=IwAR3xeECXOFkezfquts4uwHbqyBgGXcoOOXiJXV4kZu7FUCIkrQ4Peo6FQi4

As much as I like Bell, to be quietly expecting money without anything written in stone and complaining about it twenty years after the fact is a bit daft really.

But there's a book to be promoted so...

gerrybbadd · 29-10-2019 11:09am

They gave him a "Ball" of merch. Had he signed it and sold it to fans, there would have been potential to make more than 2K

Ash.J.Williams · 29-10-2019 12:00pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

They gave him a "Ball" of merch. Had he signed it and sold it to fans, there would have been potential to make more than 2K

that's very demeaning in fairness, that's a real morrissey move

Church on Tuesday · 29-10-2019 12:06pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

that's very demeaning in fairness, that's a real morrissey move

Think it's fine, he didn't outright ask for money.

I love Bell era Lizzy but the guy isn't exactly business savvy as shown down through the years.

Wrongway1985 · 29-10-2019 12:08pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

They gave him a "Ball" of merch. Had he signed it and sold it to fans, there would have been potential to make more than 2K

Be ideal if the likes of Tubrudy and D'Arcy were told here's a few RTE hats and tshirts ye can sign them to fetch potential earnings but we are no longer stretching the licence fee for ye.

Okon · 29-10-2019 1:31pm

If it took him 20 years to complain publicly about it he couldn't have been that bothered about it!

I hope the book sells well.

LollipopJimmy · 30-10-2019 3:55pm

Reading that makes Bell sound like more of a clown tbh

Outlaw Pete · 30-10-2019 8:14pm

S&M2 is on again tonight in a bunch of cinemas for anyone that missed it.

cd07 · 22-11-2019 10:20am

I have two questions, my first is who thinks 'Master ..' is possibly their best song, and my second is who can play it?

I'm a yes and yes by the way.

Yes and yes. Given how young the lads were when they wrote master and how technically brilliant it is is amazing. Everything from the speed of the down picking to the slow melody mid section just pure class for a group lads in their early 20s

Wanderer78 · 22-11-2019 10:22am

cd07 wrote: »

I have two questions, my first is who thinks 'Master ..' is possibly their best song, and my second is who can play it?

I'm a yes and yes by the way.

Yes and yes. Given how young the lads were when they wrote master and how technically brilliant it is is amazing. Everything from the speed of the down picking to the slow melody mid section just pure class for a group lads in their early 20s

cant play it for ****, its too bloody quick

jack presley · 22-11-2019 10:31am

cd07 wrote: »

I have two questions, my first is who thinks 'Master ..' is possibly their best song, and my second is who can play it?

Why does this question, word for word keep coming up?

Is there some meme I don’t know about?

Ash.J.Williams · 22-11-2019 10:44am

cd07 wrote: »

I have two questions, my first is who thinks 'Master ..' is possibly their best song, and my second is who can play it?

I'm a yes and yes by the way.

Yes and yes. Given how young the lads were when they wrote master and how technically brilliant it is is amazing. Everything from the speed of the down picking to the slow melody mid section just pure class for a group lads in their early 20s

From the speed of the downpicking to the blatent theft of a riff from david bowie

Degag · 22-11-2019 12:21pm

cd07 wrote: »

who thinks 'Master ..' is possibly their best song

It is certainly up there. My opinion on what is definitively their best song can change week on week!

Big Nasty · 22-11-2019 12:32pm

Any news on James? Still in rehab?

RoryMurphyJnr · 22-11-2019 12:38pm

First Metallica album I heard was Master, was on one side of a C90 on the other was Napalm Death's Scum album.
Much preferred Scum and took me ages to get into Metallica

gerrybbadd · 22-11-2019 1:44pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

From the speed of the downpicking to the blatent theft of a riff from david bowie

What riff would that be?

D.Q · 22-11-2019 4:18pm

Can play it alternate picking. Refuse to believe someone can down pick that.

Blackened is the one I'd love to be able to play.

Wanderer78 · 22-11-2019 4:55pm

D.Q wrote:

Blackened is the one I'd love to be able to play.

Beast of a song

klose · 22-11-2019 9:41pm

D.Q wrote: »

Can play it alternate picking. Refuse to believe someone can down pick that.

Blackened is the one I'd love to be able to play.

They used the always play it for their encore tune until they started the European leg of their tour and switched it to spit out the bone (which is a great head banger too) but would have loved to seen them play blacked the intro is so sick

Church on Tuesday · 23-11-2019 12:42pm

Big Nasty wrote: »

Any news on James? Still in rehab?

Nothing that I can find.

They are still committing to festival appearances in the new year so clearly the band is of the opinion that when James is feeling better they will pick up where they left off.

Hopefully that is/will be the case.

skallywag · 26-11-2019 2:28pm

cd07 wrote: »

I have two questions, my first is who thinks 'Master ..' is possibly their best song, and my second is who can play it?

Definitely one of their best and can also play all of James's parts, have never really tried Kirk's leads.

I'll even raise the bar for you and mention I can play it as fast as they play it live :pac:

Ash.J.Williams · 26-11-2019 2:29pm

skallywag wrote: »

Definitely one of their best and can also play all of James's parts, have never really tried Kirk's leads.

I'll even raise the bar for you and mention I can play it as fast as they play it live :pac:

downstrokes?

skallywag · 26-11-2019 2:35pm

D.Q wrote: »

Can play it alternate picking. Refuse to believe someone can down pick that.

Blackened is the one I'd love to be able to play.

I actually find it harder to alternate than to downpick for some odd reason. My right hand nearly used to fall of with pain in my wrist before it even gets to any singing, but hammering it out time after time I eventually could make it through the who song without stopping.

I recently learned most of the main riffs to Blackened, it takes a lot of practice though to smoothly get from the middle of the fretboard to the neck stuff, plus the rhythm changes are very hard to get your hand-brain-hand co-ordination around.

skallywag · 26-11-2019 2:38pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

downstrokes?

I think so, I am sitting here at work computer trying to 'airplay' it without looking like a clown, but I think so. Definitely the first few minutes of it, but I am kinda second guessing now that part when the singing kicks in. Need to have a guitar in my hand to be 100% sure, will see later!

mobitron · 26-11-2019 2:57pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

What riff would that be?

"Andy Warhol" from Hunky Dory.

skallywag · 26-11-2019 6:13pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

downstrokes?

OK, just fired her up at home to take a look.

I play the whole song downpicked, apart from the 6 note sequence which comes after the 'faster' or 'master' in the chorus, if you get me.

I actually do not really know why I am alternating these I seem to be doing it without thinking about it, as it would not be really difficult to downpick these as well, but I guess my brain is just doing something from another similar riff in some other tune, etc.

One which I still struggle on though is Creeping Death, it is extremely difficult to play that at live speed with down picking. I get it about 50% of time. It's more the stuttering change of rhythm which is the tough part I think, more than the speed itself. Somewhat like how the rhythm changes abruply within riffs like you find in 'I am the Law' from Anthrax, or 'Toxic Waltz' from Exodus.

jack presley · 20-01-2020 7:47am

Ray Burton died last week.

https://twitter.com/Metallica/status/1219148949900017664

briany · 25-01-2020 11:17pm

Fantastic podcast this week from a guy called Dean Delray. He chats to his old buddy from the Bay Area, Kirk Hammett, about such things as how Kirk came to own Greenie (the '59 Les Paul owned by Peter Green and Gary Moore), formative years, Exodus and Paul Baloff, Metallica's heyday, and more besides. Kirk's very open on this one. 2+ hours of juicy goodness.