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A man and his dogs

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    my point is you have no way of knowing whether he would be ok with it or not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    my point is you have no way of knowing whether he would be ok with it or not.

    I think it's safe to assume he'd rather his beloved dogs were not forced to eat him. Not a nice situation for the dogs either.

    Still, I suspect he'd rather they survived on him than starve to death, which can't be too pleasant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Bigbagofcans


    my point is you have no way of knowing whether he would be ok with it or not.

    Only way is if he had a donor-type card giving his pets permission to eat him :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    Only way is if he had a donor-type card giving his pets permission to eat him :pac:

    Or if his body was soaked in goose fat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    You’d always get delusional dog owners saying their beloved pets wouldn’t eat them if they had the misfortune to drop dead. And that cats would be tucking into the ribs within 5 minutes of you passing. Turns out survival instinct and being an animal knocks silly anthropormorphism out of the park.

    My friend used to foster cats, she got one once who she was warned was difficult, his elderly owner had died at home alone and it was most of a week before he was discovered because of the cat screeching at the door.

    He hadn't eaten any of the body but my god he was as fcuked in the head as a person would be after being locked in a flat with a body. Used to sit in the corner, facing inwards, and miaow really loudly for ten or twenty minute stretches. Drag his food bowl to the middle of the room, and then sh1t in it.

    Doesn't depend on the species, depends on the animal! But it is only dog people (aka anti cat people) who've made this weird virtue out of "well MY favourite type of pet wouldn't eat my dead body''.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    My friend used to foster cats, she got one once who she was warned was difficult, his elderly owner had died at home alone and it was most of a week before he was discovered because of the cat screeching at the door.

    He hadn't eaten any of the body but my god he was as fcuked in the head as a person would be after being locked in a flat with a body. Used to sit in the corner, facing inwards, and miaow really loudly for ten or twenty minute stretches. Drag his food bowl to the middle of the room, and then sh1t in it.

    Doesn't depend on the species, depends on the animal! But it is only dog people (aka anti cat people) who've made this weird virtue out of "well MY favourite type of pet wouldn't eat my dead body''.


    Sounds like me the day after a 3 day festival.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    You might be projecting your own views there. Most people would be disturbed to think their dogs were going to eat them.

    I’ve got a dog. If I died and she was stuck in the house with my “rotting” corpse for a week I would be more annoyed if she didn’t eat me.

    Survival trumps etiquette in those situations. It’s not a great image but I’d rather the dog lived on rather than dying beside me and since my organs would already be “spoiled” for transplants so they may as well go to some good use.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    I’ve got a dog. If I died and she was stuck in the house with my “rotting” corpse for a week I would be more annoyed if she didn’t eat me.

    Survival trumps etiquette in those situations. It’s not a great image but I’d rather the dog lived on rather than dying beside me and since my organs would already be “spoiled” for transplants so they may as well go to some good use.
    "I suppose you wouldn't mind either if your dead body was wedged inside a kind of conga line orgy of old fat blokes for a marathon session of drug fuel sexed (sic)".


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    My wife wants to be eaten by lions or vultures - not sure I'll be able arrange that if I'm still alive, though.
    TBR, so long as you don't arrange it while she's still alive you're OK. :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    "I suppose you wouldn't mind either if your dead body was wedged inside a kind of conga line orgy of old fat blokes for a marathon session of drug fuel sexed (sic)".

    I guess that would depend on whether those “old fat blokes” meant something to me, or not.

    “Misuse” probably isn’t something most people want to happen to their corpse. At the end of the day, you’re not going to care either way because your dead but your family might.

    I think they’d be ok with the dog eating me but less so with the fat lads “embalming” me with their own “fluids”.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    El Tarangu wrote: »
    Every army in the world has dog units, insofar as I am aware.
    Yeah, for smelling envelopes and parcels and sh1t.

    How many dogs have raced towards fixed bayonets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I see my plan to set horse people against dog people is working. Good.

    But be warned, you dog people. Nobody has ever taken a dog into battle.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogs_in_warfare

    Plenty here.

    Imo anyone who sits on the back of a flighty large animal weighing up to a ton who could kill you either on purpose or accidentally has to have a screw loose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Yeah, for smelling envelopes and parcels and sh1t.

    How many dogs have raced towards fixed bayonets?

    These lads?

    https://www.29palms.marines.mil/News/Photos/igphoto/2000776837/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    I guess that would depend on whether those “old fat blokes” meant something to me, or not.

    “Misuse” probably isn’t something most people want to happen to their corpse. At the end of the day, you’re not going to care either way because your dead but your family might.

    I think they’d be ok with the dog eating me but less so with the fat lads “embalming” me with their own “fluids”.
    It's just that I originally said the same thing as you did, but your pal - singling me out - responded with that rather pointless comment... bit of a leap! And you thanked it.

    Anyway it turned into a back and forth with your pal getting rather spiteful and saying I can't comprehend things when he did of course misrepresent me. Pretty unnecessary, even if just on a wind-up (which he surely is).

    But anyway, yeah nobody wants it to come to a pet eating their owner obviously. But if it came to it, the idea doesn't bother me because it's to prevent starvation and it's for survival. It's a last resort. And the animal doesn't know any better.

    Whereas a bunch of guys using a corpse for sexual purposes is obviously a completely different scenario - it's not necessary like food is. Now again, if it were me, well I wouldn't be able to care because I'd be dead. But it's extremely disrespectful to the family of the dead person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Originally Posted by the beer revolu View Post
    My wife wants to be eaten by lions or vultures - not sure I'll be able arrange that if I'm still alive, though.

    see

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial

    could be arranged...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Originally Posted by the beer revolu View Post
    My wife wants to be eaten by lions or vultures - not sure I'll be able arrange that if I'm still alive, though.

    see

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial

    could be arranged...

    There are many examples of similar things in various cultures. That's where the idea came from.
    She'd settle for the cheetahs in Fota eating her


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 474 ✭✭Former Observer


    Whereas a bunch of guys using a corpse for sexual purposes is obviously a completely different scenario - it's not necessary like food is.

    Along with food, water and shelter, sexual intimacy has a privileged position on Maslow's hierarchy of needs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Thread about a man's corpse being completely devoured by dogs has taken a dark turn somehow...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Thread about a man's corpse being completely devoured by dogs has taken a dark turn somehow...
    Sex is high up on Maslow's hierarchy of needs - sex being: drug fuelled orgy with corpse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    It's just that I originally said the same thing as you did, but your pal - singling me out - responded with that rather pointless comment... bit of a leap! And you thanked it.

    Hang on just a second. First off, he’s not my “pal”. In a “boards” sense we are at the stage of a nod and, perhaps, a brief “hello, how are you?”. We’re certainly not “labelling” anything.

    Secondly, I thank posts based, not just, on whether I agree with them, or not, but also if they make me laugh, or, at least, “amuse” me in some way.

    Who knows, maybe one day we will be “pals” but even then I will reserve the right to disagree with him.

    Maybe he doesn’t view getting passed around by “large” sweaty men to be used, and abused, as “misuse”. It’s a strange old world out there.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    What about if the dogs had sex with it?

    Or the old men ate it?

    Or an old man called Dog?

    Or a dog that looked like an old man?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    I’d be quite the Larder for the Dogs . With some Wine , Beer or Water they’d be fine for a good while .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Ragnar Lothbrok


    Graces7 wrote: »
    If I die alone my cats are very welcome to eat the meat of my body ; it is only meat .

    I've always said this! Would save a fortune on funeral costs too :)


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thread about a man's corpse being completely devoured by dogs has taken a dark turn somehow...

    You've done your bit with that anecdote about the man-eating cat who miaowed into the corner.

    My Jaysus. My cat shall sleep outside tonight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Bigbagofcans


    You've done your bit with that anecdote about the man-eating cat who miaowed into the corner.

    My Jaysus. My cat shall sleep outside tonight.

    You misread the post. The cat didn't even take a bit out of the man, but went demented from being trapped with a dead body for so long.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You misread the post. The cat didn't even take a bit out of the man, but went demented from being trapped with a dead body for so long.

    I bet he thought about it though. You know he had a sniff.

    Don't care. The cat's going out tonight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Bigbagofcans


    I bet he thought about it though. You know he had a sniff.

    Don't care. The cat's going out tonight.

    He had a sniff and retched at the smell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Ragnar Lothbrok


    I bet he thought about it though. You know he had a sniff.

    Don't care. The cat's going out tonight.

    Ah that's cruel! Surely you can spare him the odd finger or toe?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    You've done your bit with that anecdote about the man-eating cat who miaowed into the corner.

    My Jaysus. My cat shall sleep outside tonight.
    My daughters house cat got accidentally left outside one night .

    What ever happened to him outside he was like a crazy demon for a day when he got in the next day !

    Would you eat your dead dog / cat if ya were in the situation of the first post ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    It 's that uncommon. I remember seeing horrifc pictures of such cases in a mortuary science publication. Most pets will do it if they have to, it's basic survival instinct.

    They're trapped in an enclosed environment with no food source.


    Humans will resort to eating the dead too in life or death situations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Some of these dogs have been put up for adoption... And yet



    You wouldn't catch a horse doing this. One more reason to prefer our vegetarian friends


    I dunno about that. Not very often. But in theHorses world, we've a special term for evil Horses that are hell-bent on destroying the Human race… we call them ponies. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    blinding wrote: »
    My daughters house cat got accidentally left outside one night .

    What ever happened to him outside he was like a crazy demon for a day when he got in the next day !

    Would you eat your dead dog / cat if ya were in the situation of the first post ?

    In famine times and sieges they did and even ate rats. hmmm re your ? if in a house there would be food eg tins and a way to get out. A dog is helpless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    It 's that uncommon. I remember seeing horrifc pictures of such cases in a mortuary science publication. Most pets will do it if they have to, it's basic survival instinct.

    They're trapped in an enclosed environment with no food source.


    Humans will resort to eating the dead too in life or death situations.

    See

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cannibalism-andes-plane-crash-1972-survivors-terrible-decision-stay-alive-a6895781.html

    they made a film of this; made grim viewing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Graces7 wrote: »
    In famine times and sieges they did and even ate rats. hmmm re your ? if in a house there would be food eg tins and a way to get out. A dog is helpless
    They ate humans in famine times lets not kid ourselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    They ate humans in famine times lets not kid ourselves.

    some tribes ate people anyway. with terrible results//

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/311277.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Graces7 wrote: »
    some tribes ate people anyway.
    Good lord!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Graces7 wrote: »
    In famine times and sieges they did and even ate rats. hmmm re your ? if in a house there would be food eg tins and a way to get out. A dog is helpless
    I suppose you should make sure that all the cans and such are empty before killing any company that you may have !;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 474 ✭✭Former Observer


    Horses love to eat chickens, mice, and small birds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnYNmGMsU18

    They really are vile, dim, ugly beasts given far too much value in popular culture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    So Dogs ate a dead body to survive...what's the big deal!

    Humans have shown no qualms about killing and eating healthy Dogs to survive in a crisis situation, or in places like Korea they don't even need a crisis.

    Some people have a delusional idealised notion of Humans being more civilised and morally superior to Animals.

    Ha ha they are far from it...in fact a million times worse when their fake veneer is removed!.


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    For those that may die alone, surely there is some alarm you can install that will alert someone if you are not moving for a day or two?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    salonfire wrote: »
    For those that may die alone, surely there is some alarm you can install that will alert someone if you are not moving for a day or two?

    I am alone here in a remote and isolated place. Postal deliveries are rare but once way back when I had not brought the post in ( box at the gate) he checked

    My real safety feature is that family will call a local person if they do not hear for 48 hours. That worked when a gale knocked my communications out.

    Needful precaution when in an isolated place. Read one way back re a couple in a farmhouse in Ireland that had caught fire and killed them and no one found them for 2 weeks. Very possible if at night. I often get no post etc for weeks

    But my cats are very welcome to dine off me..


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Layne Staley the lead singer of Alice in Chains died alone in his apartment.

    He lay on his couch for close to two weeks before his mother came looking for him. His beloved pet cat Sadie was there with him. His autopsy showed advanced decomposition but no evidence of the cat eating him.


    She was curled up in a ball in the kitchen close to death when he was found.


    She made a full recovery and AIC guitarist Jerry Cantrell adopted her after her release from the vets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu




    She was curled up in a ball in the kitchen close to death when he was found.

    Stupid cat.
    I'd like to think my cats would have a bit more cop on but there's not very bright, really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Stupid cat.
    I'd like to think my cats would have a bit more cop on but there's not very bright, really.

    no; cats are brighter than dogs but sometimes more devoted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Graces7 wrote: »
    no; cats are brighter than dogs but sometimes more devoted.

    You haven't met my cats.
    Very cute, very affectionate but rather dim.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    You haven't met my cats.
    Very cute, very affectionate but rather dim.
    They speak so highly of you !


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Graces7 wrote: »
    I am alone here in a remote and isolated place. Postal deliveries are rare but once way back when I had not brought the post in ( box at the gate) he checked

    My real safety feature is that family will call a local person if they do not hear for 48 hours. That worked when a gale knocked my communications out.

    Needful precaution when in an isolated place. Read one way back re a couple in a farmhouse in Ireland that had caught fire and killed them and no one found them for 2 weeks. Very possible if at night. I often get no post etc for weeks

    But my cats are very welcome to dine off me..

    I am sure I heard of someone wearing some kind of bracelet that senses movement. If nothing is sensed for a full day (maybe after 12 hours or something), it sends out an alarm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭RhubarbCrumble


    You always hear that if you died, your dog would sit by your body mourning and your cat would eat you.

    A few years ago my aunt had a stroke. She lives on her own and it happened her just as she was going to bed one night. She was drifting in and out of consciousness all night.

    Her idiot of a dog (he really is) ran down the stairs when it happened and left her there.
    Her cat cuddled into her all night, kept meowing at her and tapping her with his paw.

    When it started to get bright the cat sat up on the windowsill and kept meowing and wailing until he got the attention of a neighbour passing the house. She knew straightway that something was wrong and went and got her husband who broke down the door and they called an ambulance.

    The stupid dog remained in the kitchen whinging for his breakfast.

    It took my aunt a good while to come back to normal, but luckily she made a pretty good recovery in the end. No thanks to the dog!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    You always hear that if you died, your dog would sit by your body mourning and your cat would eat you.

    A few years ago my aunt had a stroke. She lives on her own and it happened her just as she was going to bed one night. She was drifting in and out of consciousness all night.

    Her idiot of a dog (he really is) ran down the stairs when it happened and left her there.
    Her cat cuddled into her all night, kept meowing at her and tapping her with his paw.

    When it started to get bright the cat sat up on the windowsill and kept meowing and wailing until he got the attention of a neighbour passing the house. She knew straightway that something was wrong and went and got her husband who broke down the door and they called an ambulance.

    The stupid dog remained in the kitchen whinging for his breakfast.

    It took my aunt a good while to come back to normal, but luckily she made a pretty good recovery in the end. No thanks to the dog!

    Reminds of when I fell in the woodshed and smashed my wrist> i was finding it very hard t o get up and th e two dogs I had then just stood and stared.. I yelled at them, " You are supposed to get help and help me up or at least comfort me"

    Not a flicker..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    You always hear that if you died, your dog would sit by your body mourning and your cat would eat you.

    A few years ago my aunt had a stroke. She lives on her own and it happened her just as she was going to bed one night. She was drifting in and out of consciousness all night.

    Her idiot of a dog (he really is) ran down the stairs when it happened and left her there.
    Her cat cuddled into her all night, kept meowing at her and tapping her with his paw.

    When it started to get bright the cat sat up on the windowsill and kept meowing and wailing until he got the attention of a neighbour passing the house. She knew straightway that something was wrong and went and got her husband who broke down the door and they called an ambulance.

    The stupid dog remained in the kitchen whinging for his breakfast.

    It took my aunt a good while to come back to normal, but luckily she made a pretty good recovery in the end. No thanks to the dog!

    I had a dog that saved my life about thirty years ago. I sank into a bog hole up to near my shoulders. The dog came to the edge of the soft area and lay down stretching her neck and head in to me. I got hold of her collar and with her help, pulling backwards, got to safety. I had tried getting her to go home, which was near by, so family would wonder why she was back without me and come looking but she just insisted on reaching in to me.


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