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Heckler · 06-12-2018 1:28pm #1

https://www.joe.ie/music/rte-dj-like-lyrics-fairytale-new-york-censored-650673

And no doubt RTE will cave in. Eoghan McWanker.

Yester · 06-12-2018 1:34pm

Maybe change the line to "you’re cheap and you’re haggard" ?

davo2001 · 06-12-2018 1:35pm

Yester wrote: »

Maybe change the line to "you’re cheap and you’re haggard" ?

No, hows about we just don't change it and move on with our lives and just let the permanently outraged be permanently outraged.

RWCNT · 06-12-2018 1:39pm

I've heard it played on the radio with that word taken out tons of times, I mean, it's a slur/swear word isn't it? Thats usually standard practise.

Its my fave Christmas tune, taking one word out doesnt spoil the listening experience for me.

Heckler · 06-12-2018 1:47pm

RTE routinely play Bell X1's "Rocky took a lover" which has the line "you're such an asshole when you're drunk". During the DAY. When CHILDREN can hear !

What if someone had an asshole that doesn't work ?? WHAT THEN ??

pleas advice · 06-12-2018 1:49pm

RWCNT wrote: »

I've heard it played on the radio with that word taken out tons of times, I mean, it's a slur/swear word isn't it? Thats usually standard practise.

Its my fave Christmas tune, taking one word out doesnt spoil the listening experience for me.

You're an auld slut on junk...

Sonics2k · 06-12-2018 1:51pm

Two things.

I hate this song and I really think the whole censoring/removal of songs just in case someone is offended is a genuinely retarded move.

BUT! I'm really sure that line has been censored on many radio stations for years now. I vaguely remember having a conversation with people in work back in like 2004/05 about it being censored.

RWCNT · 06-12-2018 1:52pm

pleas advice wrote: »

You're an auld slut on junk...

I had to look up the next lyric because auld Shane is so incomprehensible.

lertsnim · 06-12-2018 1:54pm

Eoghan McDermott and people like him are the reason I steer clear of Irish radio stations that play modern chart music.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 06-12-2018 1:54pm

I don't understand the thread title...

Guy:Incognito · 06-12-2018 1:54pm

"****** is their N word"

So does that mean if a gay man and a lesbian re-record it then it's all good and we can play it?

Maybe go full on gangsta rapper and put it in every sentence?

RWCNT · 06-12-2018 1:56pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

"****** is their N word"

So does that mean if a gay man and a lesbian re-record it then it's all good and we can play it?

Maybe go full on gangsta rapper and put it in every sentence?

When rap is played on music channels and radio they almost always censor the N word though.

JohnnyFlash · 06-12-2018 1:56pm

I was in the company of a homosexual over the weekend when the song came on in a pub while a group of us were drinking heavily. He’s not a hysterical or moany sort, but did say that he finds that particular word offensive. It’s a slur, and isn’t one of these words that has the heat taken out of it by being accepted by the community or group it is meant to insult.

TheValeyard · 06-12-2018 1:56pm

See,

This is the problem, you give into one of these outrage junkies and the rest demand their special requests be obeyed.

Cnunts.

jester77 · 06-12-2018 1:57pm

A lot of snowflakes around this xmas

valoren · 06-12-2018 1:58pm

You don't mind them sonically blurring out the offending words. Like that Maroon 5/Christina Aguilera song where he sings the refrain "....I don't give a sh1t" and the word is blatantly cut.

Rather it's the actual altering of the lyric that is actually ridiculous. It snuffs out the original content and it's censorship like that which irks people. However, you get to listen to it with it's original content any time you wish and if radio stations/DJ's who have control of content decide to censor songs from their play lists then just accept it as their prerogative.

Huntergonzo · 06-12-2018 1:58pm

In fairness only a ****** would be offended by Fairytale of New York.

Huntergonzo · 06-12-2018 2:00pm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

In fairness only a ****** would be offended by Fairytale of New York.

Fággot is a censored word??? Honestly never even considered that, had to ad the 'á' cause that makes it safe.

seamus · 06-12-2018 2:00pm

Unknown DJ saying controversial things to make his name known shocker.

facehugger99 · 06-12-2018 2:00pm

Personally, I'd be glad to get a break from that song - It's been over-played to death, would be quite happy to never hear it again.

griffin100 · 06-12-2018 2:02pm

But but but he calls her a slut. Surely that level of shaming of her sexual choices is more offensive than her suggesting he may be a gay.

06-12-2018 2:06pm

Always knew he was a wanker..

06-12-2018 2:08pm

Yester wrote: »

Maybe change the line to "you’re cheap and you’re haggard" ?

"The little haggard with the earring and the make-up........"

Nah, doesn't work.

Yester · 06-12-2018 2:10pm

Deleted User wrote: »

"The little haggard with the earring and the make-up........"

Nah, doesn't work.

"That little haggard got his own jet airplane..."
I think it works fine.

YouSavedMyLife · 06-12-2018 2:12pm

Imagine letting words have so much power over you. Must not be able to sleep at night knowing somewhere someone is saying the word ******.

TheRiverman · 06-12-2018 2:12pm

Eoghan who ?

banie01 · 06-12-2018 2:12pm

Art of any kind is only really art because it provokes an emotional response.
It opens the viewer or listener to the views of the artist and the viewer then interprets that view through their life experience.

I'm very opposed to changing lyrics, hiding pictures or ignoring film because they make a homophobic, racist, or any other kind of phobic view.
Art needs to be viewed and understood as being "of its time" and more specifically to being a view of its creator.

Disney have hidden away and deleted most of its famously racist stuff, Whereas as WB have taken the path of showing a disclaimer before a lot of their early Tom and Jerry and other stuff outlining the we they came from, and affirming racism is wrong but this is the artwork view it if you wish.

The level of revisionism and deletion or ignoring of works from bygone times that hit a phobia is very worrying to me.
The history of our arts, much like history of our societies is being manipulated and directed to reflect current tastes rather than reflect the realities of the times.

RWCNT · 06-12-2018 2:13pm

She might be calling him a roast pork ******.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/******_(food)

I tried these once, they were in fact cheap and lousy.

whisky_galore · 06-12-2018 2:13pm

jester77 wrote: »

A lot of snowflakes around this xmas

I think we're going to have a shyte Xmas.

Full of demands to censor this and that, it's 21st century Puritainism.

Saint_Mel · 06-12-2018 2:18pm

Read a funny one on twitter, a guy suggested changing the lyrics to keep an 80s twist...

You scumbag you maggot, you taped over Taggart..

Heckler · 06-12-2018 2:19pm

Shes obviously calling him a bundle of sticks that can be used to heat his cosy home. No need for the censoring. She'd want him to be warm at christmas. Very thoughtful.

MarkR · 06-12-2018 2:23pm

I'm not doing anything, until someone thinks about the children.

Badly Drunk Boy · 06-12-2018 2:23pm

RWCNT wrote: »

She might be calling him a roast pork ******.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/******_(food)

I tried these once, they were in fact cheap and lousy.

Boards are even censoring the food! (Yeah, I know it can't distinguish the meaning.)

Faggots are meatballs made from minced off-cuts and offal, especially pork (traditionally pig's heart, liver, and fatty belly meat or bacon) together with herbs for flavouring and sometimes added bread crumbs. It is a traditional dish in the United Kingdom, especially South and Mid Wales and the English Midlands.

Faggots originated as a traditional cheap food consumed by ordinary country people in Western England, particularly west Wiltshire and the West Midlands. Their popularity spread from there, especially to South Wales in the mid-nineteenth century, when many agricultural workers left the land to work in the rapidly expanding industry and mines of that area. Faggots are also known as "ducks" in Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, and Lancashire, often as "savoury ducks". The first use of the term in print was in the Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser of Saturday 3 June 1843, a news report of a gluttonous man who ate twenty of them.

The first use of the term in print, as cited in the Oxford English Dictionary, dates from 1851, in a piece by Henry Mayhew in which he describes a dish identical to the modern product with chopped liver and lights in an outer wrapper of caul. This was in London.

Auguste Comte · 06-12-2018 2:23pm

Heckler wrote: »

What if someone had an asshole that doesn't work ?? WHAT THEN ??

Divorce.

kneemos · 06-12-2018 2:30pm

Good job ****ing Boards aren't in charge of ****ing playlists.

TheValeyard · 06-12-2018 2:36pm

jester77 wrote: »

A lot of snowflakes around this xmas

And not the good kind

Irish Guitarist · 06-12-2018 2:39pm

Considering it's a song about a heterosexual couple flinging insults at each other I have no idea how it's an attack on homosexuals. The word is used as a generic insult in the song. These gobshites don't understand context. They just hear a word and get offended.

I despise the song and would be happy never to hear it again. However editing a song often makes it more annoying, like on MTV when they play a rap song and bleep every second word out or try to hide the word with that weird backwards noise that I think is supposed to resemble a record scratch.

Sonics2k · 06-12-2018 2:51pm

This song has been censored for absolute years now, so this is all faux out-rage sitting on the back of other fake controversies.

banie01 wrote: »

Art of any kind is only really art because it provokes an emotional response.
It opens the viewer or listener to the views of the artist and the viewer then interprets that view through their life experience.

I'm very opposed to changing lyrics, hiding pictures or ignoring film because they make a homophobic, racist, or any other kind of phobic view.
Art needs to be viewed and understood as being "of its time" and more specifically to being a view of its creator.

Disney have hidden away and deleted most of its famously racist stuff, Whereas as WB have taken the path of showing a disclaimer before a lot of their early Tom and Jerry and other stuff outlining the we they came from, and affirming racism is wrong but this is the artwork view it if you wish.

The level of revisionism and deletion or ignoring of works from bygone times that hit a phobia is very worrying to me.
The history of our arts, much like history of our societies is being manipulated and directed to reflect current tastes rather than reflect the realities of the times.

Silly argument. I'm sure people would love it if the radio played the full uncensored version of Stan or My Name Is.

Grayson · 06-12-2018 2:54pm

lertsnim wrote: »

Eoghan McDermott and people like him are the reason I steer clear of Irish radio stations that play modern chart music.

Is Fairytale really modern chart music?

Grayson · 06-12-2018 2:55pm

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Considering it's a song about a heterosexual couple flinging insults at each other I have no idea how it's an attack on homosexuals. The word is used as a generic insult in the song. These gobshites don't understand context. They just hear a word and get offended.

I despise the song and would be happy never to hear it again. However editing a song often makes it more annoying, like on MTV when they play a rap song and bleep every second word out or try to hide the word with that weird backwards noise that I think is supposed to resemble a record scratch.

I love the song and don't mind if they censor it

pleas advice · 06-12-2018 2:58pm

kneemos wrote: »

Good job ****ing Boards aren't in charge of ****ing playlists.

Hey Slim, that's my girlfriend ********* in the trunk
But I didn't **** her ******, I just **** *** **, see I ain't like you
'Cause if she ********** she'll **********, and then she'll *** too

freshpopcorn · 06-12-2018 3:02pm

Wasn't this the guy who was a victim of an
unprovoked assault a while back. There's a chance somebody might have for being sick of him of he comes out with this rubbish often.

pleas advice · 06-12-2018 3:02pm

Sonics2k wrote: »

Silly argument. I'm sure people would love it if the radio played the full uncensored version of Stan or My Name Is.

HA, swear I didnt see this before posting that^

kneemos · 06-12-2018 3:03pm

Sonics2k wrote: »

This song has been censored for absolute years now, so this is all faux out-rage sitting on the back of other fake controversies.

Silly argument. I'm sure people would love it if the radio played the full uncensored version of Stan or My Name Is.

It has.
Loads of songs have their radio play versions with offending language removed or changed.

Move along now please.

banie01 · 06-12-2018 3:10pm

Sonics2k wrote: »

Silly argument. I'm sure people would love it if the radio played the full uncensored version of Stan or My Name Is.

Well I don't agree that it's silly.
There is a significant difference between bleeping out offensive language at pre-watershed times and re-writing the lyrics of a song to change its original content.

Censorship happens, that's true and it has for years. Doesn't make it right.
By censoring a song that has been played (both censored and uncensored) for years precisely because of faux outrage gives the impression that because tastes or sensibilities change that it is ok to revise the original work.

*I suddenly feel offended that at Christmas I am assailed by artwork depicting naked babies, it's practically pornographic!
I demand any images of a naked baby should be amended to protect my delicate sensibilities!

Furthermore all nude artwork should be "improved" by painted in bikinis!

It may totally detract from the artists intended impact and message, but shut my feelings trump Art*

*= May be hyperbolic, but it is a logical extension of this stance.

Sonics2k · 06-12-2018 3:17pm

banie01 wrote: »

Well I don't agree that it's silly.
Censorship happens, that's true and it has for years. Doesn't make it right.
By censoring a song that has been played (both censored and uncensored) for years precisely because of faux outrage gives the impression that because tastes or sensibilities change that it is ok to revise the original work.

*I suddenly feel offended that at Christmas I am assailed by artwork depicting naked babies, it's practically pornographic!
I demand any images of a naked baby should be amended to protect my delicate sensibilities!

Furthermore all nude artwork should be "improved" by painted in bikinis!

It may totally detract from the artists intended impact and message, but shut my feelings trump Art*

*= May be hyperbolic, but it is a logical extension of this stance.

Again, a silly argument. If a song played before the watershed has the word 'fúck' in it, then the word is censored out.

And once again, the word ****** has been censored in Fairy Tale of New York for decades on public radio. This is not a new change.

banie01 · 06-12-2018 3:19pm

Sonics2k wrote: »

Again, a silly argument. If a song played before the watershed has the word 'fúck' in it, then the word is censored out.

And once again, the word ****** has been censored in Fairy Tale of New York for decades on public radio. This is not a new change.

Your post crossed with my edit.

razorblunt · 06-12-2018 3:20pm

These lads are still flying under the radar!

Sweat (A La La La La Long)
Inner Circle
I've been watching you
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long
C'mon
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long
Hey
Standing across the room I saw you smile
I said I want to talk to yo-o-ou, for a little while
But before I make my move my emotions start running wild
My tongue gets tied and that's no lie
I'm looking in your eyes, I'm looking in you big brown eyes
Ooh yeah, and I've got this to say to you, hey
Girl, I want to make you sweat, sweat till you can't sweat no more
And if you cry out, I'm gonna push it some more
Girl, I want to make you sweat, sweat till you can't sweat no more
And if you cry out, I'm gonna push it, push it, push it some more
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long
C'mon
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long, ooh
So I said to myself, "If she loves me or not?
But the dreads done know that love is his to get
With a little bit of this and a little bit of that
The lyrics goes on the attack, my tongue gets tied and that's no lie
I'm looking in your eyes, I'm looking in your big brown eyes
Ooh girl, and I've got this to say to you, hey
Girl, I want to make you sweat, sweat till you can't sweat no more
And if you cry out, I'm gonna push it some more
Girl, I want to make you sweat, sweat till you can't sweat no more
And if you cry out, I'm gonna push it, push it, push it some more
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long
Ooh, yeah
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long
One more time
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long
Sing it
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long
Hey
Woo, woo, woo, woo, wee, yeah, eyes
I'm lookin' in your big brown eyes, ooh yeah
And I've got this to say to you, hey
Girl, I want to make you sweat, sweat till you can't sweat no more
And if you cry out, I'm gonna push it some more
Girl, I want to make you sweat, sweat till you can't sweat no more
And if you cry out, I'm gonna push it, push it, push it some more
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long
Yeah
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long
Push it, push it some more
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long
Alright
A la la la la long, a la la la la long long li long long long
Push it, push it some more

evil_seed · 06-12-2018 3:26pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

"****** is their N word"

Not even close

freshpopcorn · 06-12-2018 3:28pm

Another RTE DJ Stephen Byrne has come out with issues with the songs as well.

https://www.joe.ie/music/rte-2fm-fairytale-of-new-york-stephen-byrne-650735?fbclid=IwAR1SoQ_eL7iy2lr6eFdbJtnKjdXLqK0r8iIf4TKuBuE_Uu_QnxKBJfmBfsE

milehip · 06-12-2018 3:40pm

jester77 wrote: »

A lot of snowflakes around this xmas

Are you suggesting that we have a 'white' Christmas??
Either you're advocating drug use or ethnic cleansing, I'm highly offended sir and I bid you good day!!

****, ****, Weed, Piss...off

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