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Cull the Herd

  • 14-05-2019 5:52pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭


    Are there too many people in the world? Or do you think there will be? They predict almost 10 billion people will be on the Earth by 2050 and over 11 billion by 2100. Can we continue to produce enough food to feed everyone? Natural resources running low? At some stage, a decision might have to be made on culling the herd.
    Would you be in favour of culling the herd and who do you think should be culled and how would we reach a fair decision on it? I think rapists and murderers lives might be in danger. Each country could offer up their own to save themselves. After this, we could still have too many. There might be a vote on which nation gets wiped out.
    It's horrendous to think we could sink to this level but it's possible. Do you think many would vote for us? We're great so probably not. Not saying anything anti British but they would be one of the favourites to top the vote. They've a history of wiping out millions of people so it could be seen as only right that they reap what they sowed.
    Who would you vote for if it came to it? What do you think is going to happen when the population grows to over 11 billion? Do you like brown sauce on your sandwiches? Are you going to choose me for culling?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭MayoForSam


    Are you going to choose me for culling?

    You betcha.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    **cough cough** thanos **cough cough**


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OP just dying to earn Prison access revoked


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Purge 5: The Malthusian Crisis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    Who would you vote for if it came to it?

    Rereg trolls


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Farawayhome


    Honestly, I have no clue what any of you are talking about. Not saying that you're in line for the cull but you haven't helped your chances of avoiding it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    We need another Stalin or Mao to sort it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    We need another Stalin or Mao to sort it out.

    If there is one thing the hard left do well, it is genocide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    We've had that story since 1970. ATM somewhere between one third and a half of the food produced is not consumed. Predictions are that the pop will flatline around 11bn. Focus more on the climate problem than the population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    We will never 'cull' humans, at very very worst forced abortions to halt the birth rate. If nobody was having babies the worlds population very soon not be an issue with millions of people worldwide not being replaced weekly


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Bangladesh is an excellent example of where, with education, esp of women, along with access to contraception, most families now have two children at most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,281 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Culling won't work, because there's too many people who think every one has the same rights (regardless if they're a paedo, rapist, murderer, etc). So culling won't work. Maybe if they introduced a system like The Purge, it would take care of itself, but I don't trust everyone else to not break the law during the remaining 364 days.

    What will work, in this country at least, is cap the child benefit at 2 children. When scumbags realise they won't get more money for popping out kids, they'll stop, as will most other people unless they're very well off. Less kids means less adults down the line, thus reducing the overall population.

    Granted, the tiny change in this country is but a drop in the ocean, so no idea how to control the rest of the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Farawayhome


    I have a few children, I'd be happy to get rid of them if it meant saving the world. I'm a hero really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    We need another Stalin or Mao to sort it out.
    Not at the same time mind, it'd split the world, all kinds of fukkery would ensue. Natural disasters seem to 'cull the herd' anyways.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Put Fine Gael, Fianna Fail and all there supporters into a big pit and let them fight it out bare chested, thrown a few hang sandwiches and bottles of lemonade from time to time and then see who's left. And we put any survivors on a little island owned by the Haugheys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Put Fine Gael, Fianna Fail and all there supporters into a big pit and let them fight it out bare chested, thrown a few hang sandwiches and bottles of lemonade from time to time and then see who's left. And we put any survivors on a little island owned by the Haugheys.

    Won’t you miss your boyfriend if we do that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Who gets to decide who goes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,281 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Your Face wrote: »
    Who gets to decide who goes?

    Hunger Games style


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Hunger Games style

    Bore people to death with ****e films, it may work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Here's the real problem.
    People in countries that already have a declining population, agonising about overpopulation in the world.
    Meanwhile people in other countries with no interest in such matters breeding like rabbits.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    recedite wrote: »
    Here's the real problem.
    People in countries that already have a declining population, agonising about overpopulation in the world.
    Meanwhile people in other countries with no interest in such matters breeding like rabbits.

    If we got the Pope to lift his ban on contraception among the gullible people of the third world (even though many of them are not Catholics, but some are), it would be a start.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭magentis


    22 posts in and no mention of blasting Leitrim off the map to leave the country looking like a badly home made donut.

    I'm amazed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Yeah, I've seen Children of Men, I dont like how that depressing world goes.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Won’t you miss your boyfriend if we do that?

    What Joan Burton and I get up to of an avinin...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    janfebmar wrote: »
    If we got the Pope to lift his ban on contraception among the gullible people of the third world (even though many of them are not Catholics, but some are), it would be a start.
    That would help, but Catholics are not the worst. Italy where the Pope lives is well below replacement rate.
    Syria; population in 1970 was 6.3M but by 2010 was 21M.
    Iraq; population in 1970 was 9.9M but by 2010 was 31M.
    Somalia; population in 1970 was 3.4M but by 2010 was 12M
    Nigeria; population in 1970 was 55M but by 2010 was 158M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    What Joan Burton and I get up to of an avinin...

    Leo Varadker - you took his partners name (Matt Barrett) as your username, right? Or is that a coincidence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Don't worry, we are well due another big war or natural catastrophe.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Anti-Vaxxers are doing their bit. Are you ?






    In reality population growth is slowing down in countries that have decent healthcare. It's a non-issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Leo Varadker - you took his partners name (Matt Barrett) as your username, right? Or is that a coincidence?

    Are you five O?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Put Fine Gael, Fianna Fail and all there supporters into a big pit and let them fight it out bare chested, thrown a few hang sandwiches and bottles of lemonade from time to time and then see who's left. And we put any survivors on a little island owned by the Haugheys.

    Stuck in the last century.......move on amaceen .......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    recedite wrote: »
    That would help, but Catholics are not the worst. Italy where the Pope lives is well below replacement rate.
    Syria; population in 1970 was 6.3M but by 2010 was 21M.
    Iraq; population in 1970 was 9.9M but by 2010 was 31M.
    Somalia; population in 1970 was 3.4M but by 2010 was 12M
    Nigeria; population in 1970 was 55M but by 2010 was 158M

    Globally, the average Christian fertility rate is 2.7 children per woman, which is higher than the global average fertility rate of 2.5.

    According to a 2011 Pew Research Center survey, there were 2.19 billion Christians around the world in 2010, more than three times as many as the 600 million recorded in 1910. Catholics in Italy, like in Ireland, are not likely to heed the Popes rules on contraception, but it is in Catholic parts of the third world where lack of contraception is causing unnecessary population growth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,552 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Limit child benefits to 3 (Round up the 2.xx replacement rate) in Ireland, and stop foreign aid both governmental (could also remove charity statue from private groups).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Are you five O?

    Are you a doctor?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Are there too many people in the world? Or do you think there will be? They predict almost 10 billion people will be on the Earth by 2050 and over 11 billion by 2100. Can we continue to produce enough food to feed everyone? Natural resources running low? At some stage, a decision might have to be made on culling the herd.
    Would you be in favour of culling the herd and who do you think should be culled and how would we reach a fair decision on it? I think rapists and murderers lives might be in danger. Each country could offer up their own to save themselves. After this, we could still have too many. There might be a vote on which nation gets wiped out.
    It's horrendous to think we could sink to this level but it's possible. Do you think many would vote for us? We're great so probably not. Not saying anything anti British but they would be one of the favourites to top the vote. They've a history of wiping out millions of people so it could be seen as only right that they reap what they sowed.
    Who would you vote for if it came to it? What do you think is going to happen when the population grows to over 11 billion? Do you like brown sauce on your sandwiches? Are you going to choose me for culling?


    We've been doing it for thousands of years. We're doing it right now.
    We've tried genocide many times before it never seems to halt the population growth.

    Its not edgy to talk like this. It just shows your naivety.

    Culling of humans has been going on and is going on.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭micky jammy delahunty


    You know.....National governments are allowed do with the Common Agricultural Policy payments as they like (don't be fooled by the representatives of you know who.)....And with technological developments, a true medium sized farm should only be about 40,000 acres, run efficiently like Ryan Air...not the grossly inefficient average 40 acres we have in Ireland.

    With the right combination of historical events....We could keep the CAP payments, which are well over 30 billion, and have a highly profitable agricultural sector. It would be like discovering oil under a gold mine.

    But, we must start by asking difficult questions....We must ask the question that many fear to speak....The Culchee question.....We have to start asking ourselves this question...and how it will be answered.....we cannot go on living as we are.....Can we survive subsidising these reservations, or must we look manifest destiny in the face...and make the difficult decisions our children will understand and thank us for.....Or will we not....and our children view our weakness with betrayal and disgust...


    Roscommon ....would be a good place to begin, the building of a new Ireland...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Farawayhome


    We've been doing it for thousands of years. We're doing it right now.
    We've tried genocide many times before it never seems to halt the population growth.

    Its not edgy to talk like this. It just shows your naivety.

    Culling of humans has been going on and is going on.

    And it's mentioned in my post. Comprehension fail! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Don't worry, we are well due another big war or natural catastrophe.

    According to Sky News tonight the US and Iran are on course for a summer showdown so we might get that cull sooner rather than later.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭micky jammy delahunty


    bilston wrote: »
    According to Sky News tonight the US and Iran are on course for a summer showdown so we might get that cull sooner rather than later.

    Don't get your hopes up...If there's a war, they won't be dancing fat rural American Trump voters into the Iranian guns....They have the same problem in America as we have here...The same problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,514 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Your Face wrote: »
    Who gets to decide who goes?

    Maybe those who propose such measures should lead by example.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    janfebmar wrote: »
    Globally, the average Christian fertility rate is 2.7 children per woman, which is higher than the global average fertility rate of 2.5.

    According to a 2011 Pew Research Center survey, there were 2.19 billion Christians around the world in 2010, more than three times as many as the 600 million recorded in 1910. Catholics in Italy, like in Ireland, are not likely to heed the Popes rules on contraception, but it is in Catholic parts of the third world where lack of contraception is causing unnecessary population growth.

    Not sure what the actual ratio of RCC attendees is across sub-saharan Africa and the Middle East, but could well be a minority compared to the other main alternative skygod followers in those two regions, where populaitons are gowing about +5% pa avg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    recedite wrote: »
    Here's the real problem.
    People in countries that already have a declining population, agonising about overpopulation in the world.
    Meanwhile people in other countries with no interest in such matters breeding like rabbits.
    More to do with lack of education/access to contraception than lack of interest. I'd say they'd be keen on a way to have less mouths to feed.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wakka12 wrote: »
    We will never 'cull' humans,
    we always have done so, and we will do it again. It's now a question of whether, but of when.

    I agree with the gun nuts on one thing: a tyranny will establish itself in North America within our lifetimes, or the next. The gun nuts thinks it will be a leftist tyranny, but left or right scarcely mean anything when you start to put people into ovens, or eradicate them with whatever technology is at your disposal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    If every couple in the world just had 2 kids the population of the world would decline in a steady and sustainable way.

    I'd say in the next 10/15 years this will become "A Thing"
    IE: It'll frowned on if you have more than 2 kids.

    Maybe they should only offer children's allowance for a Max of 2 kids?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    ... main alternative skygod ...

    So many invisible skylords. And yet not one of them decent enough to step in and fix this sheet for us. Too busy doing their nails, up there in the sky.

    I liked that Yahweh guy. When he smited the Babylonians that time, they stayed smote.


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    topper75 wrote: »

    I liked that Yahweh guy. When he smited the Babylonians that time, they stayed smote.

    Like in the song "By the rivers of Babylon"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Are you a doctor?

    Is this your Da?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0L87JpQmGzBQt3oieXorGmQDZJyhKrhsiecyZ7Pz1d_YHVt-k


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    grahambo wrote: »
    Maybe they should only offer children's allowance for a Max of 2 kids?

    Likely already on the cards (by the way of {adult} UBI).
    The bowl of soup will be 'Universal' no matter who it's for.

    Seperately, surprised no ones mentioned the Georgia Guidestones:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
    1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
    2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
    3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
    4. Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
    5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
    6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
    7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
    8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
    9. Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
    10. Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Do you not think that we'd want to keep the British considering that they invented nearly everything of note for over 200 yrs.

    What's the use in getting rid of the top echelon. It makes no sense from a natural standpoint.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    More to do with lack of education/access to contraception than lack of interest. I'd say they'd be keen on a way to have less mouths to feed.
    No, that's not it. There's a couple of reasons.

    The religious one; both Christaianity and Islam very much in favour of increasing numbers.

    But also the practical one. In third world countries they have a lot of kids, but they invest very little in their kids. Its a bit like buying lotto tickets. More tickets improves your odds. The hope is that at least one of them will do well, maybe even make it to a wealthy country and send back some money. Others might not do well, or even die. Its important to plan for old age when there is no pension and you rely on your relatives for food.


    In the west, kids cost you a lot of money to raise, and you'll still get your pension whether you have kids or not. In fact your pension will probably be better without kids, because more time was available to be spent on career and work.


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