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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion : Spring/Summer 2020

  • 02-03-2020 5:17pm
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    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Just starting new thread for the season(s). Nothing to report! :)


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Cold air spreading aloft tonight after the cold front into tomorrow and the passage of troughs giving instability along with diurnal heating tomorrow afternoon will give some heavy showers and some might contain hail and a few sporadic showers may become electrified although there is low shear and lapse rates available. Pulse type brief thunder storms if any. Later Sunday evening the NW/ N might see some heavy showers and again some might have hail and become electrified.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Here we go again, lightening strike near my house just now, heavy hail storm atm.

    Mountains NE of Sneem, 600 ft ASL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Just the one strike, small event.

    Edit: It shows on met.ie but not on lightening maps, I wonder where met.ie get their lightening data ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭typhoony


    could get lively on the west coast in the next hour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,323 ✭✭✭highdef


    typhoony wrote: »
    could get lively on the west coast in the next hour

    Extremely potent cell just about or else just has hit land west of Galway city. I would guess around Spiddal or possibly just east of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Thunder and lightning in Spiddal a while ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,323 ✭✭✭highdef


    As well as that potent shower around Spiddal, there looks to be a very active squall like feature developing, hitting much of the Clare coast imminently and may well affect Galway City shortly however the recent heavy shower west of the city may leave the city somewhat in a less wet location than further south. This may change in the coming minutes though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭RoisinD


    Thunder and lightning NW Clare


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Heavy rain and huge clap of thunder in Dublin city centre


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    Torrential rain and hail with Thunder - D14


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    Torrential rain and hail with Thunder - D14

    Same in Dublin 16.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Yeah house and car alarms going off all around the place. Some downpour that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,323 ✭✭✭highdef


    Recent squall in North kildare with hail and thunder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,323 ✭✭✭highdef


    If the squall I've just had in North kildare is in any way as strong when it arrives in Dublin imminently, we'll likely be getting a good few reports here. I reckon some tree branches and limbs were probably broken in the surrounding areas. Was really very very fierce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭corsav6


    Hail and a single lightning strike just north of Newport, Mayo. Had some hail and sleet earlier too so a miserable aul day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Massive bang of Thunder in Galway now just had another one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Bright lightning west of Castlebar .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,997 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    North Mayo getting severely walloped
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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭Trebor176


    Very dark clouds over D8 and further on now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Saw two excellent fork lightning strikes a couple of minutes apart from Swords around 6pm. Happened to be looking in exactly the right direction both times :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭okla


    Hail shower at 17:50. I went out the back garden and the brightest flash and instant bang and crackling as a bolt flew right over my head. Frightened the ****e out of me. My boys came running downstairs because they seen the flash. Struck a tree stake 30m from the house.


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    What's your location? That's the exact time of the two big strikes near Swords!

    okla wrote: »
    Hail shower at 17:50. I went out the back garden and the brightest flash and instant bang and crackling as a bolt flew right over my head. Frightened the ****e out of me. My boys came running downstairs because they seen the flash. Struck a tree stake 30m from the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭okla


    What's your location? That's the exact time of the two big strikes near Swords!

    Lusk, north co Dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Definitely one of the strikes I saw so, I was looking directly towards lusk from north side of swords!
    okla wrote: »
    Lusk, north co Dublin.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Getting some sferics in Northern counties. looks like some heavy rain going through.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Getting some sferics in Northern counties. looks like some heavy rain going through.

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    Definitely a feel of thunder in the air


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Definitely a feel of thunder in the air

    I see a nice bit of heat recorded today, creating some instability.

    Just a few drops here earlier from high elevated blanket cloud, feels humid.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Fairly hefty thunderstorms broke out in the UK today with good diurnal heating and plenty of moisture in the atmosphere with Dp of 10 and 11 C in places. Just a slight chance of some sparks around SE and S coasts but low probability . See a band of heavy rain heading into the SE now.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Cell east of Wicklow sparking

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Watching out for it,haven't seen anything yet
    Strong NE gusting wind here in Arklow
    Sky is clear atm


  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭GolfNut33


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Cell east of Wicklow sparking

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    Its really beefing up on the way in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,764 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Lightning flashes lighting up the bedroom here. (Wexford).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Lightning here near Arklow too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Holy Fook

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Trough approaching the S /SE tomorrow evening might have a slight chance of producing some weak thunderstorms, maybe off or along the coast. Relatively warm moist air over relatively cold sea with cold uppers.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,900 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Yeah it's looking more unstable at the moment in to the weekend but I feel the early days of next week have an even better chance of some storms, imports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Plumey looking skies this morning

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    The timing of the arrival of the rain bands this afternoon during the warmest part of the day here in the SW along with some coastal convergence and topographical lift might aid convection with the possibility of sporadic lightning from mid /late afternoon, some of the showers could be heavy.

    16.1C atm here near Tralee with higher humidity today giving a Dp of 12C

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Had some heavy rain but no sparks here in Kerry as yet anyway. Got up to 18.4C and big drop in temperature to 12.5C

    All the action in NW France again with chances of some storms crossing the channel this evening / night.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    The cells exploding in NW France.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


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    From Convective Weather:


    A slightly higher risk is likely to exist over SW Ireland on Friday afternoon / early evening, where better low-level moisture pooling and greater proximity to an upper vortex just offshore, and associated steeper lapse rates, may result in some slightly deeper convection. Here a risk of local flash flooding will be present, given slow storm motion and prolonged heavy downpours. The risk of lightning is still considered very low (<10%).

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    Looks like the possibility of some heavy showers tomorrow in the SW with the build up of warmth in the afternoon, looks like a subtle area of convergence around N Kerry, Clare, Limerick showing up on the ECM giving some aid to convection, an outside chance of a rumble or two, will see.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Not much rain showing up so far, gone very dull here near Tralee, heavy cloud overhead and hazy below it, got up to 17.3C but temp has dropped down now to 12.8C. Satellite showing convection with growing cloud heights but rain staying up there for the most part for now.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,922 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    Not much rain showing up so far, gone very dull here near Tralee, heavy cloud overhead and hazy below it, got up to 17.3C but temp has dropped down now to 12.8C. Satellite showing convection with growing cloud heights but rain staying up there for the most part for now.

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    The air felt damp this evening. If I can have rain on Monday it will do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Sky was very threatening here this evening but nada


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    After the front passes through on Weds looks like convection development as the cold uppers spread in over Ireland. Should produce some heavy showers Good preliminary lapse rates and signs of decent CAPE potential .Timing coinciding with peak diurnal heating. Better convection where there are good gaps in the cloud. Could get a few thunderstorms if the convection gets going early enough.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    A lot of interesting detail in Convective Weathers forecast. Been an age since there has been a modest to decent bit of potential for convection and lightning if somewhat sparse. From a weather watchers perspective an interesting spell of weather over the next few days after the extended calm spell.



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    Day 2 Convective Outlook
    VALID 06:00 UTC Wed 29 Apr 2020 - 05:59 UTC Thu 30 Apr 2020

    ISSUED 20:26 UTC Tue 28 Apr 2020

    ISSUED BY: Dan

    A broad LOW threat level has been issued to cater for the very low risk of isolated lightning strikes that may occur with various weather features during this 24 hour forecast period. However, for most places the risk is considered very low, and hence the vast majority of the large LOW threat area will remain void of any lightning.

    At least two organised occlusions, and associated bands of rain, will sweep northwards and eastwards across the British Isles during this period, one during Wednesday daytime, and a second primarily during the evening and night. In both cases, these features will initially be quite active given strong forcing aloft, with heavy bursts of rain and embedded deep convection likely as they approach southern Ireland and southwest England, but as the forcing aloft shears away to the northwest, the bands of rain are expected to gradually weaken as they track farther northeast, eventually stalling somewhat over Scotland while decaying. In general, the risk of lightning will be greatest with these features as they approach southern Ireland/southwest Britain (20-25%), the risk then reducing as they push farther north and east (5-10%). CAM guidance suggests meso-vortices may develop along the rear edge, especially located near the most intense convection, and this may aid the potential for damaging gusts of wind (50-60mph possible over open waters and exposed Celtic Sea coasts). Multi-model guidance suggests Pembrokeshire and along the coast of Cardigan Bay could see some strong gusts of wind during Wednesday morning, for example.

    In-between these two occlusions there will likely be a window of cloud clearance coinciding with peak diurnal heating, particularly in a swathe from central Ireland across Wales and central southern England. With the mid-levels having cooled considerably by this stage, this may yield a couple hundred J/kg CAPE - more especially over Ireland, with greater proximity to the upper cold pool. As a result, some convection and a few showers could develop, although the pronounced mid-level dry layer will act as a lid, restricting the depth of convection and hence limiting the overall lightning risk. Nonetheless, a 10-15% risk of lightning may exist over Ireland during the afternoon hours, although the second occlusion will already be arriving in southern Ireland by mid/late afternoon.

    Behind the second occlusion, a pronounced shortwave will approach the Celtic Sea and SW England on Wednesday night, driving deep convection and numerous showers which may evolve into a comma-type feature by the end of the night. Given some reasonable speed and directional shear, strong forcing aloft and 300-500 J/kg CAPE, some sporadic lightning seems possible. A low-end SLGT (30%) has been issued to cater for this risk. Once again, some damaging gusts of wind could occur near exposed coasts and some hail is also likely in the most intense cells. Ironically, this type of setup is more akin to autumn/winter rather than mid/late spring!


  • Registered Users Posts: 684 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    Recent lighting strike showing up in Longford.Any reports from there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭davehey79


    eastmayo wrote: »
    Recent lighting strike showing up in Longford.Any reports from there?

    Few rumbles, heavy rain and saw one flash from this


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Probably too early in the year for anything severe but a fairly classic Spanish Plume setup on tonights ECMWF, doubt it'll amount to much but nice to be back in convective season again nonetheless :)

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