Irish Google Exec Reveal Plan to Prevent A Trump situation in 2020

splashuum · 25-06-2019 12:34pm #1

Project Veritas blows whistle on Google via hidden camera interview.

Whether you like Trump or not, its frightening to see how much power these big tech companies have, and to see them bragging about it is beyond sickening.
Youtube again, are now taking down all videos of this.

Some quotes of googles head of ethical machine learning include:

Google “is bent on never letting somebody like Donald Trump come to power again.”

Google Exec Says Don’t Break Us Up: “smaller companies don’t have the resources” to “prevent next Trump situation”

https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/24/insider-blows-whistle-exec-reveals-google-plan-to-prevent-trump-situation-in-2020-on-hidden-cam/

El_Bee · 25-06-2019 12:38pm

good, Drumpf should have never been elected in the first place, the russians hacked into the electrical college and changed the results, hopefully google can prevent that this time.

branie2 · 25-06-2019 12:41pm

Good on them!

Sonics2k · 25-06-2019 12:44pm

Eh, it's a pretty damning video. But I'm really put off by just how much editing happens in it.

There's massive cuts, jumps to other people and a lot of out of place

AlmightyCushion · 25-06-2019 12:45pm

That site looks like a load of biased bollocks to me.

Can't watch the video here but comments could easily be taken out of context.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 25-06-2019 12:47pm

How creepy

B0jangles · 25-06-2019 12:49pm

Don't Project Veritas have a long and extremely shady history of creating heavily edited and very misleading videos?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-fake-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump

I'd wait until there's evidence from a source that isn't entirely discredited.

Sunny Disposition · 25-06-2019 12:49pm

Wow! Google execs saying they can decide the course of an election, things are gone pretty far. They've got to be broken up. Never heard of Project Veritas, but fair play. I always mean to use DuckDuckGo instead of Google, rarely do, must make more of an effort.

Deebles McBeebles · 25-06-2019 12:51pm

El_Bee wrote: »

good, Drumpf should have never been elected in the first place, the russians hacked into the electrical college and changed the results, hopefully google can prevent that this time.

Google can just ask themselves and instantly know how to. Amazing.

Hack the electrical colláge now, Stalin!

gibgodsman · 25-06-2019 12:52pm

Love it when people with absolutely 0 idea about Politics mouth off about Trump. As much as I hate the man, he has without a doubt been the best President in terms of "Making America Great Again" in decades. Facts don't lie.

Il Fascista · 25-06-2019 12:56pm

If this was happening to the Democrats you'd very quickly see the private company argument disappear

ancapailldorcha · 25-06-2019 12:59pm

B0jangles wrote: »

Don't Project Veritas have a long and extremely shady history of creating heavily edited and very misleading videos?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-fake-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump

I'd wait until there's evidence from a source that isn't entirely discredited.

Seems to be a recurring theme in the modern Rightwing victimhood industry.

Cienciano · 25-06-2019 12:59pm

B0jangles wrote: »

Don't Project Veritas have a long and extremely shady history of creating heavily edited and very misleading videos?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-fake-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump

I'd wait until there's evidence from a source that isn't entirely discredited.

Here's their last video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzSHIYxdRs

splashuum · 25-06-2019 1:10pm

How are people labelling this as fake news when its crystal clear from her quotes what her and googles objectives here are?
The brainwashing here is real. The guardian article is laughable.

suicide_circus · 25-06-2019 1:19pm

the mask has slipped. Remove the Trump element from this and think about what theyre doing here. Scary stuff. Skynet needs to be dismantled.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 25-06-2019 1:25pm

Google is a tad creepy.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 25-06-2019 1:27pm

gibgodsman wrote: »

Love it when people with absolutely 0 idea about Politics mouth off about Trump. As much as I hate the man, he has without a doubt been the best President in terms of "Making America Great Again" in decades. Facts don't lie.

Fortunately lots of people who do know something about politics also “mouth off” about him. Phew.

Stark · 25-06-2019 1:29pm

Sonics2k wrote: »

Eh, it's a pretty damning video. But I'm really put off by just how much editing happens in it.

There's massive cuts, jumps to other people and a lot of out of place

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8uM0zOBuSw

TheValeyard · 25-06-2019 1:31pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Google can just ask themselves and instantly know how to. Amazing.

Hack the electrical colláge now, Stalin!

Nah, Stalin would simply "hack" the voters.

ancapailldorcha · 25-06-2019 1:33pm

splashuum wrote: »

How are people labelling this as fake news when its crystal clear from her quotes what her and googles objectives here are?
The brainwashing here is real. The guardian article is laughable.

You just did exactly the same thing you're moaning about people here doing.

Grayson · 25-06-2019 1:41pm

splashuum wrote: »

How are people labelling this as fake news when its crystal clear from her quotes what her and googles objectives here are?
The brainwashing here is real. The guardian article is laughable.

Have you ever heard of cognitive bias? You have it.

JohnnyFlash · 25-06-2019 1:43pm

I’d like to see the full unedited video, but it’s very Orwellian if even half true.

ancapailldorcha · 25-06-2019 1:44pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I’d like to see the full unedited video, but it’s very Orwellian if even half true.

Against my better judgement, I'd a quick look. It's some lad with an obscure face. Could be the company janitor for all we know.

Boom_Bap · 25-06-2019 1:47pm

Who uses google suggestions for something other than comedy purposes?

Grayson · 25-06-2019 1:47pm

also, if anyone hasn't seen it I'd recommend watching Carol Cadwalladrs TED talk. I've read pretty much everything she's written about the cambridge analytica scandal and this video is a very brief introduction to it.

It's scary how much fake campaign news was targeted and shared on facebook and google during the US elections and Brexit referendum. We need companies like facebook and google to stop it happening again.

I remember when facebook were being questioned by congress in the US, they were asked what made them think particular ads that targeted Trump supporters originated in Russia. Because when they looked into it afterwards they discovered they had been paid for in Roubles.

InTheShadows · 25-06-2019 1:50pm

gibgodsman wrote: »

Love it when people with absolutely 0 idea about Politics mouth off about Trump. As much as I hate the man, he has without a doubt been the best President in terms of "Making America Great Again" in decades. Facts don't lie.

Very true and it's killing a lot of the liberals. Google/Facebook/YouTube etc... are going to pull out all the stops to stop President Trump getting re-elected next year but as long as the American economy continues to thrive it won't matter a jot once the voters enter the polling booths.

Can't stand Trump think he's comes across like a f u cking idiot but compared to Obama he's doing an outstanding job.

Hector Savage · 25-06-2019 1:52pm

That Irish Google VP sounds like a right evil sociopathic ****.
Dangerous dangerous people.

rossie1977 · 25-06-2019 2:36pm

Few articles on James O'Keefe, guy is a complete fraud

https://www.businessinsider.com/james-okeefe-project-veritas-sting-fails-2017-11?r=US&IR=T
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-fake-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/08/james-o-keefe-settlement-acorn

Sonics2k · 25-06-2019 2:38pm

rossie1977 wrote: »

Few articles on James O'Keefe, guy is a complete fraud

https://www.businessinsider.com/james-okeefe-project-veritas-sting-fails-2017-11?r=US&IR=T
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-fake-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/08/james-o-keefe-settlement-acorn

Aha, I knew I recognised him. Loves a bit of fake news and editing.

Hector Savage · 25-06-2019 2:46pm

Grayson wrote: »

also, if anyone hasn't seen it I'd recommend watching Carol Cadwalladrs TED talk. I've read pretty much everything she's written about the cambridge analytica scandal and this video is a very brief introduction to it.

It's scary how much fake campaign news was targeted and shared on facebook and google during the US elections and Brexit referendum. We need companies like facebook and google to stop it happening again.

I remember when facebook were being questioned by congress in the US, they were asked what made them think particular ads that targeted Trump supporters originated in Russia. Because when they looked into it afterwards they discovered they had been paid for in Roubles.

Yes, we need to stop people having incorrect opinions.
Only political parties/politicians approved by Mega Tech should be allowed any power.

notobtuse · 25-06-2019 3:25pm

Google, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter most certainly do suppress search results and attack conservatives directly. Time for conservatives to fight back. A good start would be against Facebook and other like entities. Since it’s a private company you can’t force them not to be dangerous biased jerks or to honor free speech. But one thing you can do is create legislation targeting them in the pocket books when they deplatform conservatives, locking them out of their accounts, but still allow their posting or videos to remain available in order to rake in revenues. Legislation can be made to force them to share in the revenues they generate even when they lock you out of your account.

One of the greatest conservative Twitter posters is James Woods. Many of his twitter comments are genius. Twitter finally had enough of his postings and growing influence and did him in. But his posting history is still out there to read and enjoy. I’d like to see some laws made that he be compensated for the revenues he still generates.

King of Kings · 25-06-2019 3:47pm

B0jangles wrote: »

Don't Project Veritas have a long and extremely shady history of creating heavily edited and very misleading videos?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-fake-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump

I'd wait until there's evidence from a source that isn't entirely discredited.

Yet everytime veritas has had to fight in court they won.

The guardian is a joke. They used to stand for something but now the agenda matters mote than the truth.

People moaning about the video are odd the googles said what they said .there is no hiding this

Grayson · 25-06-2019 4:34pm

Hector Savage wrote: »

Yes, we need to stop people having incorrect opinions.
Only political parties/politicians approved by Mega Tech should be allowed any power.

Where did I say that?

as it happens people shouldn't have stupid opinions. The best way to do that is to make sure they are well informed and don't have false information.

The majority of flat earthers learned about flat earth theories on youtube and facebook. They get sucked down the rabbit hole and start believing that crap. Flat earth is relatively harmless. You have stuff like the comet pizza conspiracy theory which led to an armed man entering a pizza restaurant and demanding to see where the trapped children were.

And then there's anti vaxxers who have cost childrens lives.

And that's all besides what is mentioned in the video I posted which is foreign governments and political parties buying ads on social media to target swing voters. people were targeted with fake facts. They were shown information which is patently false in order to swing their votes and we still don't know who paid for a lot of it. That's wrong. people should only be given accurate information and we should especially be wary of a foreign government or a political group using dark money to swing elections in their favor.
That fact that someone like you seems to be ok with foreign interference in an election is nuts. It shows how far down the rabbit hole you've gone.

And if you think that Carol Cadwalladrs point (Or mine for that matter) was that big tech should get to decide, you're way off the point. The point is that these tech companies took money from anyone who was willing to pay without caring who they were or what the message was. We need regulations to stop that.

NaFirinne · 25-06-2019 4:42pm

I think everyone should be watching the actions of All the internet giants... It's quite obvious they are working towards a political agenda and silencing anyone who doesn't have their political ideals.

This is very dangerous, might be conservatives now....and people seem to be fine with that...but what happens when it starts to effect more and more people, until you have basically one voice that is allowed to speak and everyone else is silent.

People should start moving away from these platforms and developing more open platforms that cater towards free speech and discussion of all issues from all perspectives.

srsly78 · 25-06-2019 4:45pm

NaFirinne wrote: »

People should start moving away from these platforms and developing more open platforms that cater towards free speech and discussion of all issues from all perspectives.

This was tried, and the open platforms just ended up full of child porn and nazis. Suddenly people were screaming for them to be censored.

King of Kings · 25-06-2019 4:55pm

srsly78 wrote: »

This was tried, and the open platforms just ended up full of child porn and nazis. Suddenly people were screaming for them to be censored.

What really happened was groups like paypal and stripe wouldnt process payments from the alternatives to google/fb etc...so people could earn monies from their content.

Proof of a tech cartel to keep the status quo.

King of Kings · 25-06-2019 4:55pm

srsly78 wrote: »

This was tried, and the open platforms just ended up full of child porn and nazis. Suddenly people were screaming for them to be censored.

What really happened was groups like paypal and stripe wouldnt process payments from the alternatives to google/fb etc...so people could not earn money from their content.

Proof of a tech cartel

James Brown · 25-06-2019 4:59pm

I once saw a youtube interview with 'Bono' acknowledging his deals in Africa and how he profits....wasn't even Bono. A dodgy handheld effort with a even dodgier look a like.
The height being the fox broadcast video edited to look like the CNN reporter chopped the wrist of the WH intern.

Grayson · 25-06-2019 5:00pm

King of Kings wrote: »

Yet everytime veritas has had to fight a court they won.

The guardian is a joke. They used to stand for something but now the agenda matters mote than the truth.

People moaning about the video are odd the googles said there is no hiding this

No they haven't. They've settled or been found guilty quite a few times.

Boxing.Fan · 25-06-2019 5:43pm

Stasi B*stards.

NaFirinne · 25-06-2019 9:18pm

Probably should be in conspiracy theories forum - but does anyone get the impression that all these tech giants are in league with each other so they can basically take over societies and maybe in time become like a corporate dictatorship. Even going as far as you have to go through them to buy and sell things.

JohnMc1 · 25-06-2019 9:45pm

NaFirinne wrote: »

Probably should be in conspiracy theories forum - but does anyone get the impression that all these tech giants are in league with each other so they can't basically take over societies and maybe in time become like a corporate dictatorship. Even going as far as you have to go through them to buy and sell things.

Years ago you would have been discarded as a conspiracy theory lunatic. Now that is highly likely. Its not by accident that the people who own,manage and work at these tech companies have the same political agendas [while finger pointing lecturing us on being open minded, tolerant and inclusive] They ban anybody that doesn't conform to their agenda [while calling everyone fascist]

Shadow Banning, De-platforming is the modern day book burning.

hatrickpatrick · 25-06-2019 10:10pm

I wish we could go back to the nihilistic era of the internet, where platform providers acted as entirely passive parties to discussion, simply provided open platforms and didn't concern themselves with some alleged "social responsibility" they had to make sure the "right" views were discussed and the "wrong" ones were not.

Danzy · 25-06-2019 10:12pm

Big Capital will pile in behind the Democrats, the plebs can go **** themselves.

JohnMc1 · 25-06-2019 10:15pm

This would be getting much more play in the media if they were trying to prevent Bernie, or some other Democrat from winning next year.

InTheShadows · 25-06-2019 10:39pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

This would be getting much more play in the media if they were trying to prevent Bernie, or some other Democrat from winning next year.

Or banning the views of liberals instead of conservatives.

What's happening with Google/Facebook/Twitter is incredibly worrying for democracy in the western world.

JohnMc1 · 25-06-2019 11:01pm

InTheShadows wrote: »

Or banning the views of liberals instead of conservatives.

What's happening with Google/Facebook/Twitter is incredibly worrying for democracy in the western world.

Definitely. Everybody should be concerned about this.

NaFirinne · 26-06-2019 12:51am

Anyone got any good ideas on how to combat this kind of thing in our Modern Society.

InTheShadows · 26-06-2019 12:58am

NaFirinne wrote: »

Anyone got any good ideas on how to combat this kind of thing in our Modern Society.

Boycott them but they have incredible reach and power

Hector Savage · 26-06-2019 8:43am

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Seems to be a recurring theme in the modern Rightwing victimhood industry.

Give over will ya !

"Rightwing" to you is anyone slightly to the right of Stalin ffs!

rossie1977 · 26-06-2019 10:28am

JohnMc1 wrote: »

This would be getting much more play in the media if they were trying to prevent Bernie, or some other Democrat from winning next year.

Project Veritas doing an 'investigate piece' on Democrats would only be negative. This is same group who tried to frame Washington Post in order to get Roy Moore's name cleared even though O'keefe himself felt Moore was guilty.

InTheShadows wrote: »

Or banning the views of liberals instead of conservatives.

What's happening with Google/Facebook/Twitter is incredibly worrying for democracy in the western world.

What are liberal views and why would those views result in bans?

Nobody is getting banned on social media because they hold Conservative views. People are getting banned because they are advocating violence against other groups..

Irish Google Exec Reveal Plan to Prevent A Trump situation in 2020

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