League of Legends (LoL) General Chat Thread

TheDoc · 18-02-2013 4:52pm

Meh water of a ducks back at this stage.

I moved to jungle in Season 2 and the first reaction of someone getting owned is blame the jungler who isn't holding their hand.

You can map the stereotypes out too easy. I rarely get annoyed anymore, flaming etc. barely ever gets to me, nor does someone calling me out on being bad. I'll have a bad game ever now and then, but you just have to look at my ADC record this season to see if I've been playing consistently well.

Problem being ADC can be hard to carry the game when its gets to late game.

The only thing annoying me nowadays is team mates throwing the game. So if I go build a strong lead at bottom, dominate and zone my lane and then have a platform for the team to go strong.

Then during midgame team mates will get wasteful and get caught solo a few times, next of all the enemy carry or AP carry is fed back up to level. That is the only thing that annoys me, as its a genuine working example of a player who doesn't know the game, and shouldnt be in a competitive environment.

Icyseanfitz · 18-02-2013 5:09pm

TheDoc wrote: »

Meh water of a ducks back at this stage.

I moved to jungle in Season 2 and the first reaction of someone getting owned is blame the jungler who isn't holding their hand.

You can map the stereotypes out too easy. I rarely get annoyed anymore, flaming etc. barely ever gets to me, nor does someone calling me out on being bad. I'll have a bad game ever now and then, but you just have to look at my ADC record this season to see if I've been playing consistently well.

Problem being ADC can be hard to carry the game when its gets to late game.

The only thing annoying me nowadays is team mates throwing the game. So if I go build a strong lead at bottom, dominate and zone my lane and then have a platform for the team to go strong.

Then during midgame team mates will get wasteful and get caught solo a few times, next of all the enemy carry or AP carry is fed back up to level. That is the only thing that annoys me, as its a genuine working example of a player who doesn't know the game, and shouldnt be in a competitive environment.

yeah i can understand how it can be annoying when your team lets you down, but in a normal game it really isnt all that serious of an issue, i dont think normal is considered a competitive environment is it? where else is one meant to learn the game, surely not the ai as their useless

TheDoc · 18-02-2013 5:16pm

Sorry should have mentioned that was ranked.

Although in fairness, I've been telling friends who have lately got to 30, to just get into ranked. They feel they have to go through "prep" within normal before they can transition into ranked.

In an ideal world this would be the case, where players would go through normal, play the game and understand mechanics and game flow. However most people boost or buy accounts at 30, go straight into ranked, so they can get t3h el0zzzzz

I've just been telling friends to get stuck in, you get more IP for ranked and it doesn't make a difference.

Genuinely hurts my feelings I'm at bronze tbh.

Seifer · 18-02-2013 5:25pm

I've been playing a few normals recently to try out some champs, season 3 stuff etc. The problem is without a pick order people just insta-lock whatever they want. This results in games that would never happen in ranked e.g. my last game: I'm Varus laning bot with a Cait (some troll kid). So we're competing for cs which would never happen in ranked; you'd have a support. The enemy team has a lee sin, J4 bot lane (again never happen in ranked) so as you'd expect they stomp us pretty hard early but because their team has no ADC we eventually win after I get farmed up. So from an actual how to play Varus in ranked point of view I haven't learn all that much.

So I would agree you'll learn more in ranked but with the league system it'll take you longer to climb back up if you tank your elo while learning.

Icyseanfitz · 18-02-2013 5:25pm

yeah the reason im going through normal is so that i can get the hang of all the game mechanics/which characters im good as, which is why all these a_sshats who moan and groan annoy me, if they want to play proper games where everyone knows what their at go ranked ffs.

and yeah i agree with rope on the fact that people who are doing bad do love to start shouting abuse at everyone else to cover themselves, i had a guy yesterday playing xin mid that had 2 kills 20 mins in/loosing the first turret against my 3 as darius top not having lost anything loosing the plot, idiots

YouSavedMyLife · 18-02-2013 5:47pm

Oh league. Hit level 20 yesterday and got my first abusive player in a long time apart from the obvious smurfs at level 1-12. Ashe bottom with me playing support Zyra. The guy would engage in fights we couldn't win and BM me for him dying, even though i was landing my 3 very well that game both defensively and offensively. By the time he was 1-5 and i was 3-1 since i was doing alot of clean up under my tower i just left bottom.

Won in the end...

TheDoc · 18-02-2013 5:47pm

Seifer wrote: »

I've been playing a few normals recently to try out some champs, season 3 stuff etc. The problem is without a pick order people just insta-lock whatever they want.

I just extracted the above.

Your playing normal normal? Dude.

If you want to play normals to improve mechanics, test a champion, work on a champion or lane, you need to go Normal Draft.

Normal Normal is literally for having a game to let of some steam.

Draft will have a pick order as ranked does, and can be a little bit more constructive. But Normal mode is still pretty vile in general

Seifer · 18-02-2013 5:51pm

TheDoc wrote: »

I just extracted the above.

Your playing normal normal? Dude.

If you want to play normals to improve mechanics, test a champion, work on a champion or lane, you need to go Normal Draft.

Normal Normal is literally for having a game to let of some steam.

Draft will have a pick order as ranked does, and can be a little bit more constructive. But Normal mode is still pretty vile in general

A normal draft game will never start. Or more accurately the queue time plus all the failed lobby/dodge time makes it not worth the wait.

And when you want to practice a specific champion queuing draft doesn't guarantee you that unless you want to get your troll on.

Kold · 18-02-2013 5:55pm

TheDoc wrote: »

Meh water of a ducks back at this stage.

I moved to jungle in Season 2 and the first reaction of someone getting owned is blame the jungler who isn't holding their hand.

You can map the stereotypes out too easy. I rarely get annoyed anymore, flaming etc. barely ever gets to me, nor does someone calling me out on being bad. I'll have a bad game ever now and then, but you just have to look at my ADC record this season to see if I've been playing consistently well.

Problem being ADC can be hard to carry the game when its gets to late game.

The only thing annoying me nowadays is team mates throwing the game. So if I go build a strong lead at bottom, dominate and zone my lane and then have a platform for the team to go strong.

Then during midgame team mates will get wasteful and get caught solo a few times, next of all the enemy carry or AP carry is fed back up to level. That is the only thing that annoys me, as its a genuine working example of a player who doesn't know the game, and shouldnt be in a competitive environment.

Wut? ADC is THE lategame role. This is why I find it hard to climb as AD, a game can be lost for you before you've started to hurt. All I want from my teammates is to let the game hit 30 minutes without creating a monster that can run through my team right at me, that's when I'll carry the game.

Companion box · 18-02-2013 8:00pm

Thats what i dont get as well, you play ezreal, farm and 1v5 the enemy team at 30 minutes, thought thats how AD carries work in solo queue.

TheDoc · 18-02-2013 10:00pm

Not really, it depends.

ADCarries are pretty weak when it comes to lategame, can be blown up pretty quickly. If the enemy team is anyway half decent your going to get blown asunder pretty quickly. Critical to have flash up as an ADC for lategame team fights.

Top laners imo are where the "game"carries are at at the moment. Typical tanky builds that do massive damage.

Seifer · 18-02-2013 10:46pm

TheDoc wrote: »

Not really, it depends.

ADCarries are pretty weak when it comes to lategame, can be blown up pretty quickly. If the enemy team is anyway half decent your going to get blown asunder pretty quickly. Critical to have flash up as an ADC for lategame team fights.

Top laners imo are where the "game"carries are at at the moment. Typical tanky builds that do massive damage.

The ADC should be carrying late game hence the C of ADC. Yes, in this league of warmogs that Riot has created it has become harder to do so. They are attempting to fix this; the blade of ruined king changes on the PBE should help.

Late game ADC is all about positioning, that's what separates the good carrys from the bad. Your support or one of your bruisers should be peeling off anyone that dives you in team fights. The one exception is Vi at the moment who is pretty broken since you can do nothing to stop her getting to you except ban her in champ select. She'll be nerfed again in the next patch.

You'll often notice that the team that wins a team fight is the one that kept their carry alive for the longest time as the ADC is the one role that can pump out sustained, high damage.

From a solo queue point of view though I don't think playing ADC is a reliable way to win. It takes too long for you to have an effect on the game. Mid and jungle are still the most influential roles in solo queue.

Kold · 20-02-2013 8:45am

1. Midlane is the most important role in the game by a longshot. Most farm, most map control, closest to all objectives at any given time. This is why people climb using LB, Ahri, etc. As soon as you hit 6 you are a stronger ganker than most junglers and can win someone else's lane for them.
2. Almost certainly jungler. You are the guy that makes sh1t happen. Counter jungling is a great way to sway the game in your teams favour.
3/4. Either top or ADC, my 2 best roles. Farm, dual, trade, just try and be stronger than your opposite number. Chances are though, that you can get very far ahead of them and still lose the game depending on what your pick is and their scaling. I'm gonna put top above adc though considering the average solo queue game length barely gives ADC time to get 3/4 endgame items (and that's if you're doing well) and the strength of Summoner TP especially with distortion boots.
5. Supports are not useless and a good one can do wonders for the team (my 3rd best role since I've played over 2000 adc games and know exactly what I want my support to be doing). Simple fact though, you aren't gonna carry a game that's going against your team. Give your support honour if they deserve it, this needs to be a less thankless role and people need to be more mature concerning it's importance. Also, I don't necessarily think that a couple of killsteals from supports are that bad. 300g to your support rather than theirs is a bigger advantage for your team than 300g to the ADC (who gets what? 180g anyway).

There are lategame ADCs and earlygame ADCs but if your team kills their ADC first and their team kills your APC first, my money is on the team with the ADC still alive. The reason for having an ADC on your team is for lategame DPS and towerchewing. Otherwise people would run double bruiser bot and get so far ahead.

2c

YouSavedMyLife · 24-02-2013 9:22pm

Just got my first penta at level 21 with Miss Fortune

The amount of damage she does in a team fight is just insane. I want to enjoy Vayne more but MF feels so much better in everyway

Orizio · 25-02-2013 3:30am

Problem with playing adc is that at low elo the concept of 'peeling' is lost on your entire team. So prepared to get dived by the 7/1 Nocturne and no one helping.

SirDelboy18 · 25-02-2013 5:21am

I've started playing bruiser bot duo combos in normals with the intent to transfer that over to ranked. I've thought since the start of season 3 that bruiser bottom is pretty viable - felt pretty good to have Doublelift confirm this.

http://uk.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/know-your-role-ad-carry-with-doublelift-lcs-week-3-6404372/

Singed and Pantheon are our most used combo at the moment.

Korvanica · 25-02-2013 10:34am

SirDelboy18 wrote: »

I've started playing bruiser bot duo combos in normals with the intent to transfer that over to ranked. I've thought since the start of season 3 that bruiser bottom is pretty viable - felt pretty good to have Doublelift confirm this.

http://uk.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/know-your-role-ad-carry-with-doublelift-lcs-week-3-6404372/

Singed and Pantheon are our most used combo at the moment.

Once riot sort out the League of Warmogs ADCs will be very viable again. A blade of the ruined king on an adc will destroy any bruiser thats stacking health. I never see anyone buy it though

Anyone watch LCS this weekend? Krepo doing the analysis was brilliant. They need to have him there more often. His knowledge of league & what to do in certain situations is unbelievable.

Kold · 25-02-2013 2:07pm

Krepo is awesome. Not only a really cool guy but actually a very good player. I remember seeing him play Anivia on stream and his mechanical skills are actually top notch, way above the likes of Xpecial or Elementz. Imo he's up there with Madlife, Edward and Chauster (when he supported).

Orizio · 25-02-2013 7:49pm

Anyone else unable to watch twitch.tv (all streams) due to lag over the last couple of nights.

Korvanica · 25-02-2013 7:55pm

Orizio wrote: »

Anyone else unable to watch twitch.tv (all streams) due to lag over the last couple of nights.

Use YouTube instead. Its much better. I usually pause it for 5 or 10 minutes too so if it does lag it wont for me as its buffered.

Orizio · 25-02-2013 8:29pm

Korvanica wrote: »

Use YouTube instead. Its much better. I usually pause it for 5 or 10 minutes too so if it does lag it wont for me as its buffered.

...LoL players stream on youtube?

Korvanica · 26-02-2013 1:20pm

Orizio wrote: »

...LoL players stream on youtube?

I thought you meant for LCS. Cant help ya there so. Twitch is a POS

EmeraldDragon · 03-03-2013 6:20pm

Next best option would be azubu.tv but only CLG on there atm really. Well and some koreans

Companion box · 04-03-2013 4:41pm

Quinn feels like an incredibly flawed ad carry, really short auto attack range without strong defensive stats like graves and an ultimate which throws her into melee range.

The whole kit just feels wrong, maybe she would be better as a bruiser.

Seifer · 04-03-2013 4:46pm

Companion box wrote: »

Quinn feels like an incredibly flawed ad carry, really short auto attack range without strong defensive stats like graves and an ultimate which throws her into melee range.

The whole kit just feels wrong, maybe she would be better as a bruiser.

Yeah, it's very odd that Riot pushed her so hard as an AD carry. She doesn't seem to suit it at all.

On another note; how's everyone enjoying the "League of Blade of the Ruined King"? (not as catchy as league of warmogs)
Riot seem to have lost their way a bit with the whole balance thing.

Korvanica · 04-03-2013 5:15pm

Seifer wrote: »

Yeah, it's very odd that Riot pushed her so hard as an AD carry. She doesn't seem to suit it at all.

On another note; how's everyone enjoying the "League of Blade of the Ruined King"? (not as catchy as league of warmogs)
Riot seem to have lost their way a bit with the whole balance thing.

League of Bork !

Its a bit mad, i see most roles buying it now.

Kold · 04-03-2013 5:45pm

Was League of Cleavers first. The problem was how AD carries became useless since they nerfed all their items and this is the way to kill the hp meta.... They just seem to have f*cked the game a little since S3 started. Take off the 100% proc on Randuins and give PD back the MS and buff the dmg on IE would've been a better option that superbuffing an already very viable item.

Seifer · 05-03-2013 11:26am

Maybe Riot hasn't completely lost it yet. They're gonna be hot-fixing BoRK: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=35267019#post35267019

Korvanica · 05-03-2013 11:57am

Seifer wrote: »

Maybe Riot hasn't completely lost it yet. They're gonna be hot-fixing BoRK: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=35267019#post35267019

Fair play, but I wanna see one weekend of LCS with them using the current BoRK ..

Also: I watched Wolves vs Fnatic last night. If you haven'y seen it i highly recommend watching it. One of the best games I've seen in a long time.

I'm very happy the wolves have broken their losing streak. bjergson is an absolute monster !

n1ck · 05-03-2013 9:27pm

I watched that game aswell, it was amazing!

Anyone know which game it was that Krepo was analysing? He's a great streamer, explains everything he does, including things like ward placement.

Seifer · 05-03-2013 9:57pm

RopeDrink wrote: »

For those who may have missed it, the Bork issue was hotfixed quite a while ago.

I knew it was coming - There was just too many high level streamers about complaining of the fact that everyone regardless of champ was buying Bork, including but not limited to ADC's - Someone even mentioned they saw troll'crap like Maokai or Cho'Gath with Borks.

Whatever about the 'general masses' complaining but when a hell of a lot of streamer or top-tourny players start venting and showing the state of a situation to thousands of people unintentionally during streams, stuff tends to get done a bit quicker. Supposedly resulted in a massive thread somewhere in the bowels of the internet that got all the attention - Glad it's sorted anyways and a lot quicker than the old Cleaver issue, too.

Quite a while ago? The official hot fix was announced 13 hours ago: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3191474

Or about 2 hours before my post above.

And everyone knew it was coming tbh; even considering the patch was only 4 days ago.

-Vega- · 08-03-2013 1:40pm

BoTrK made me build ad teemo for a while, thankfully it got nerfed, and now I can go back to full ap. Bless.

tuxy · 08-03-2013 2:18pm

Does anyone use raidcall? It sounds amazin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qao_yAiJVk

Crash them!

ionapaul · 08-03-2013 2:26pm

Played Karthus last night for the first time, really enjoyed it. Got to be one of the better champions for a noob like me, didn't die once which is a big change from my usual run-outs with Amumu or Nunu!

Seifer · 08-03-2013 2:45pm

ionapaul wrote: »

Played Karthus last night for the first time, really enjoyed it. Got to be one of the better champions for a noob like me, didn't die once which is a big change from my usual run-outs with Amumu or Nunu!

I wouldn't have said Karthus is a good champ for learning on but go with what's fun. However, don't be afraid to die on him; that's what his passive is for. Obviously don't suicide unnecessarily and try to die in a position where you can still deal lots of damage before ulting.

Euanrolls · 08-03-2013 3:06pm

I honestly don't know why, in all my time playing league I never once thought about jumping on here and seeing if there was a thread about it so I could find more Irish folk. I already have a bunch of Irish guys that I play with that I met through league and other games. I've been playing for nearly 2 years and am fairly decent at all the roles, my best/favourite roles are jungle, ad and support. Add me if ye wish, I always welcome Irish people with open arms. I also have access to ventrilo, teamspeak3 and mumble servers. My ign is TheEasterRising (nice and republican of me xD). Message me on here if you do add me so I can put the puzzle pieces together.

n1ck · 08-03-2013 11:18pm

tuxy wrote: »

Does anyone use raidcall? It sounds amazin
!

Me and my mates use raidcall because Skype was using too much bandwidth for me(dole connection

) It's really good, essentially like Teamspeak but free :P

Seifer · 15-03-2013 1:53am

Stolen from Reddit but too good not to share:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=957XN468QuQ

-Vega- · 16-03-2013 6:25pm

QUESTION: When should I go AD/On-Hit teemo top over full Ap teemo?

I've been playing teemo full ap masteries / runes top and doing pretty well. Depending on situation, I build..

Spell pen boots
Liandrys
Malady
Hurricane
Deathcap or whatever else

But when is it better to swap over to ad runes and build something like
Frozen Mallet
Bloodthirster
Static Shiv/Nashors/malady or w/e

Korvanica · 16-03-2013 7:42pm

-Vega- wrote: »

QUESTION: When should I go AD/On-Hit teemo top over full Ap teemo?

I've been playing teemo full ap masteries / runes top and doing pretty well. Depending on situation, I build..

Spell pen boots
Liandrys
Malady
Hurricane
Deathcap or whatever else

But when is it better to swap over to ad runes and build something like
Frozen Mallet
Bloodthirster
Static Shiv/Nashors/malady or w/e

Generally AD teemo is to be avoided as all I believe his abilities scale off AP. He falls off late game when you build AD.

I could be wrong though so someone correct me if i am :P

Kold · 18-03-2013 8:31am

Teemo hard counter to Vayne. Ya heard me.

EmeraldDragon · 18-03-2013 4:05pm

Best supports to get going in support to learn basics on would be cho and ryze. Both super weak and with limited capability in support either based on limited cc options (ryze) or high mana costs (cho). Both teach you a lot by mastering them and also become relevent late when most supports fall off and die horribly.

Also my main supports are Taric and Gangplank. GP is one of the best supports ever. 5 gold!!!!

-Vega- · 18-03-2013 4:10pm

Pick up taric, sona, and thresh. Keep playing them until you start winning, dont stop. Leave blitz, banned 2 often.

As for teemo, playing him a lot top and mid, doing very well, even beating a few of my natural counters such as zedd, akali, and wukong. Bully them up until level 3, if I dont have a kill on them by then I play passive until I have a few shrooms down or gank, then its gg.

Even if I died once, twice, it doesn't matter on teemo. If you stop the bleeding there by getting a blue buff for cd and shroom up around ure tower to stop dives, ganks and minions taking it you can hold top. If you have really lost your lane, build a hurricane and get your team to hold while you shove lanes with shroom protection, so good. Very hard to lose if you have a team that listens.

EmeraldDragon · 18-03-2013 10:11pm

RopeDrink wrote: »

@Emerald I didn't mean learn the role, I meant Teemo in general. .

Ah. My own fault for not reading properly. I do find he is ok as support but excels more when played as AP carry bot with support when you have an ad top and mid. Might be an option you could try to help learn him a bit more.

n1ck · 18-03-2013 11:37pm

Teemo support really sucks, hes very squishy and anyone will half a brain will blow him up very quickly.

EmeraldDragon · 19-03-2013 12:36am

n1ck wrote: »

Teemo support really sucks, hes very squishy and anyone will half a brain will blow him up very quickly.

There are few unsquishy supports. even a tanky champ used as support wont be that tanky. His squish factor isnt as much of an issue as you may think.

n1ck · 19-03-2013 12:53am

Sure it is, he'll get blown up in no time with any duo bot with half a brain. His shrooms are all well and good but as a support he sucks. In general he isn't a good champ, he may have a good lane phase but he has a terrible mid-late game.

Korvanica · 19-03-2013 10:38am

I love having a Teemo on my team. After a losing teamfight just run a route that will bring whoever is chasing you through a shroom and turn it around on them.

IRL_Sinister · 19-03-2013 11:10am

Hey, I don't know if this is the "official" LoL page for boards but I've been playing this game pretty intensively the last week or so. I'm currently level 23 and playing 10+ games a day. A friend of mine who is Challenger on EUE got me into the game but he's so busy in tournaments and stuff we don't play together that much. Soloq is fun and all, but it would be cool to get in touch with some other people and play some duo/tri queue. Like I said, I'm still relatively new to the game at level 23 but I'm looking to get 30 ASAP and get into ranked when I feel comfortable with a few more champs. Is there a way for me to get in touch with other people on boards who would be up for some games every now and then (currently I don't care about level/skill/experience just looking to improve my own gameplay, mechanics and champs)?

EDIT: Maybe a boards.ie chat room?

n1ck · 19-03-2013 6:41pm

Honestly, Teemo doesn't really work at all in game, his early lane phase is ok but he does not scale at all well. Most ADCs outrange Teemo so anytime he goes for a trade he's gonna get hit, unless the ADC is ****. He hasn't got high base health, so say for example an Ez mystic shot, it will take about 1/5-1/6th of his hp, he isn't gonna be ballsy enough to hang around when he is taking damage like that.

I've played against Teemo support a few times and it doesn't work. He only has one escape and that's his flash(you can count w, but it's not reliable when I have a gap closer of my own).

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