YouTube Premium thread SEE OP

sweetie · 12-01-2021 4:06pm

Esse85 wrote: »

Brilliant value.
I cancelled my Netflix and Spotify accounts as the YT premium is so good.

Do they have many tv shows?

stickman1019 · 12-01-2021 4:35pm

Is removing the add the only benefit ??

If so you could use Adblock for Chrome

Static M.e. · 12-01-2021 4:56pm

TheDriver wrote: »

Between this and tidal and Netflix from Turkey, all entertainment is sorted.

How much is Netflix in Turkey? Do you use a VPN for first time connection or do you need to keep it running?

Thank you.

ablelocks · 12-01-2021 5:24pm

so tempted to drop spotify for tidal at that pricing and join yt family too.

but i don't think youtube is a replacement for netflix....

nephster · 12-01-2021 5:29pm

Soarer wrote: »

K.
I'm a bit confused my this.
I've created a couple of new gmail accounts for our family, one of the kids, one for the adults.
I've logged into YouTube with the Adults account, but for the life of me I can't find how to add family members without going through the 1 month trial of Premium.
Anyone help an old man out?

https://families.google.com/families - create the Family group here first. Then upgrade it to YouTube Premium Family, IIRC.

I think this needs to be done first as Families generally have to be in the same country, which is done by setting payment methods for one country. You'll be setting up a new payment in a different country (hence the whole VPN thing and giving a foreign billing address) to get that country's rate; if you add members later, they will be seen as being in a different country for these purposes. But if done before, they continue to be part of the Family.

_Kaiser_ · 12-01-2021 5:39pm

stickman1019 wrote: »

Is removing the add the only benefit ??

If so you could use Adblock for Chrome

Or for Android, Youtube Vanced

TheDriver · 12-01-2021 5:40pm

Static M.e. wrote: »

How much is Netflix in Turkey? Do you use a VPN for first time connection or do you need to keep it running?

Thank you.

4.80 for 4 screen. The former. Whole thread about in on this forum.

TheDriver · 12-01-2021 5:41pm

stickman1019 wrote: »

Is removing the add the only benefit ??

If so you could use Adblock for Chrome

True but i use YT on TV and tablet and phone and PC and it;s small money overall.
YT music is good as you can get all the live concerts etc on your phone as tracks to play in the car. EVen stuff other people have recorded.

feelings · 12-01-2021 5:44pm

This is important if you're setting it up. Got to have members added (and invitations accepted) before you do the vpn trick.

nephster wrote: »

https://families.google.com/families - create the Family group here first. Then upgrade it to YouTube Premium Family, IIRC.

I think this needs to be done first as Families generally have to be in the same country, which is done by setting payment methods for one country. You'll be setting up a new payment in a different country (hence the whole VPN thing and giving a foreign billing address) to get that country's rate; if you add members later, they will be seen as being in a different country for these purposes. But if done before, they continue to be part of the Family.

Lucas Hood · 12-01-2021 5:51pm

I've added people to my family account after signing up and not had an issue.

nephster · 12-01-2021 5:56pm

Lucas Hood wrote: »

I've added people to my family account after signing up and not had an issue.

Just tried it myself with my secondary Gmail, and it failed, telling me I was in a different country to the family manager.
My primary account has its payment set to Argentina, to get the Argentinian rate.

Lucas Hood · 12-01-2021 5:59pm

I just tried adding my work account and it worked fine.

Peig Sayers · 12-01-2021 6:10pm

Worked with my VPN set to India. Great value for €1.45 per month and I got a free month's trial!

SteM · 12-01-2021 6:15pm

So I've just cancelled my YT Premium account and it ends on 08/02. On 08/02 I just login to my google account via VPN set to India and re-join for the lower cost - is that it?

ShaneU · 12-01-2021 6:19pm

kaerobe wrote: »

You need the VPN to sign up, not to continue to access.
My YT on my TV has Irish music/new releases.

My YouTube music app on my phone is full of Indian music. Top 100 chart is mostly hindi stuff. Not using a VPN.

Lucas Hood · 12-01-2021 6:29pm

ShaneU wrote: »

My YouTube music app on my phone is full of Indian music. Top 100 chart is mostly hindi stuff. Not using a VPN.

It shows the indian charts and stuff but all your normal music is there. Once you listen to some stuff it'll show you your usual stuff.

nephster · 12-01-2021 6:41pm

Lucas Hood wrote: »

It shows the indian charts and stuff but all your normal music is there. Once you listen to some stuff it'll show you your usual stuff.

This.
If you *really* want to listen to the Top 100 Irish Songs (or wherever):
You can change the chart location in the YT Music app - Explore > Charts. Under the title Charts is a dropdown, you can set it to Ireland. But in my experience it reverts to the payment country when you leave.
So, when in the Irish chart click See All. That takes you to the current playlist of those 100 songs, and then you click the "add to library" "+" icon. It will now be in your Library tab, to play when you want. The playlist *should* update automatically when songs are added and removed by Google.
Cumbersome? Yes. But it's an option if you want the Irish chart.

Snake Plisken · 12-01-2021 6:54pm

Is India the cheapest? Also of your already signed up to google drive will that affect trying to do this via vpn?

Jofspring · 12-01-2021 7:02pm

YouTube is fantastic this way.

Very tempted by Tidal. Been a Spotify family member for years but that's €15 a month. Main issue is knocking the rest of my family off it and Spotify works very well with Google home. Might just scrap Spotify for the moment and stick with YouTube music.

wiz569 · 12-01-2021 7:12pm

Mine shows all the normal Irish/English music as per usual with no mucking around like the above.

Peig Sayers · 12-01-2021 7:14pm

Jofspring wrote: »

YouTube is fantastic this way.

Very tempted by Tidal. Been a Spotify family member for years but that's €15 a month. Main issue is knocking the rest of my family off it and Spotify works very well with Google home. Might just scrap Spotify for the moment and stick with YouTube music.

Get yourself onto a Spotify plan on Boardss. Only cost €30 per year!

Jarren1 · 12-01-2021 7:38pm

Thanks OP!!

uli84 · 12-01-2021 7:49pm

Peig Sayers wrote: »

Get yourself onto a Spotify plan on Boardss. Only cost €30 per year!

Like how?

Soarer · 12-01-2021 8:21pm

I know this is going OT, but....

Jofspring wrote: »

YouTube is fantastic this way.

Very tempted by Tidal. Been a Spotify family member for years but that's €15 a month. Main issue is knocking the rest of my family off it and Spotify works very well with Google home. Might just scrap Spotify for the moment and stick with YouTube music.

This is a walkthrough I created around Black Friday time for Tidal. Assume it's still relevant, bar the black Friday sale part.

Soarer wrote: »

Right guys and gals.

Complete novice walkthrough. If I can do it, anybody can.

This is for a single sub, not a family sub.

1. Found a free VPN here https://www.hotspotshield.com/
2. Registered for their Premium service, which gives a 7 day free trial.
3. Installed the VPN, opened it, and set it to Turkey.
4. Clicked on this link https://www.tidal.com/blackfriday
5. Followed the registration process my Revolut card.
6. Registratrion went through for the 4 months @ TRY1.99 a month, and will continue @ TRY19.99 after that.
7. Installed Tidal on my phone, and logged in to make sure everything was working.
8. Logged back into HotSpotShield and cancelled my subscription.

That's pretty much it from start to finish. Literally took less than 10 minutes for everything.

P.S. At today's rates, the monthly sub is costing €0.22 per month, and the full rate will be €2.13 per month.

EDIT: Don't know how this sort of witchcraft works, but if you go to tunemymusic.com, you can transfer your playlists/songs from one service to another.
It mightn't catch them all, but it's pretty accurate.

DavyD_83 · 12-01-2021 8:30pm

Aquos76 wrote: »

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/youtube-premium-ps136month-3540366

That's the exact guide I used before.
I hadn't used VPN for anything before so put it of for a while because I assumed it would be awkward and complicated. Or is easy easier than it even sounds.
Go for it.
I'm paying 189 rupees a month for unlimited music Anne videos (which I hardly ever use)without ads; have also shared with my wife and both my parents as family members in same cost
You literally only need the VPN for the tone it takes to sign up. Then go back to using normally and can add people to your family same as always.

The only minor downside is that on YouTube music the recommendations are mostly Indian artists even though my usage location is set to Ireland in every way I can, So far, I haven't found any way of adjusting this . If anybody has, of love to know

TheDriver · 12-01-2021 8:31pm

Jofspring wrote: »

YouTube is fantastic this way.

Very tempted by Tidal. Been a Spotify family member for years but that's €15 a month. Main issue is knocking the rest of my family off it and Spotify works very well with Google home. Might just scrap Spotify for the moment and stick with YouTube music.

Tidal family is about 1.80 a month for the whole family. Only snag is Amazon echo, it only works on US anaxon devices.

ablelocks · 12-01-2021 8:40pm

TheDriver wrote: »

Tidal family is about 1.80 a month for the whole family. Only snag is Amazon echo, it only works on US anaxon devices.

ah balls.

degsie · 12-01-2021 8:43pm

TheDriver wrote: »

Tidal family is about 1.80 a month for the whole family. Only snag is Amazon echo, it only works on US anaxon devices.

Works on UK Echo? scratch that, FireTV

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TIDAL-Music-AS/dp/B0119DBAW8

TheDriver · 12-01-2021 9:00pm

Works grand on my echos but I use an Amazon dud US account for my firestick and echos rather than my UK account.

psicic · 12-01-2021 9:03pm

Some earlier posters asking about existing Youtube Premium members. I was an existing Youtube Premium member (was worth it back in the day when they made their own content). These are the steps I took to get Family membership in India:

Cancelled my current YouTube Premium membership (after cancelling I had one week left of premium benefits)
Set up a Google family here https://families.google.com/families - as per nephster's post above waited til all family members had accepted
Set up a VPN - my current one (AirVPN) didn't have India or Turkey so went with Surfshark (if you haven't looked at VPN features in a while, the bigger brands have come on a lot)
Just as an added step, I dug out my passport and finally finished registering for Revolut. I understand it wasn't necessary to use Revolut and you can use your normal card, but sure why not
Went to the YouTube Manage subscription page here: https://www.youtube.com/paid_memberships and clicked in to the Family Membership (if going solo, the premium link is also on this page)
Turned on the VPN and refreshed the page
Prices changed to Rupees
Clicked on the subscribe buttons - 10 rupees for the next week, then 189 for next month.
Only asked me for an Indian State - not a full address. (Dehli, by the way!)
That's it, access was instant.

Also, I would suggest making sure your family members you invite are their gmail addresses, just for ease of them using on their phones.

Fingers Mcginty · 12-01-2021 9:31pm

Do you have to have indian rupees on your revolut for this to work using an indian address.

I've just setup everything up and revolut says theres a temporary hold on my card??

Peig Sayers · 12-01-2021 9:34pm

uli84 wrote: »

Like how?

Search spotify family, there's a post about three weeks ago. Same thing as you tube - use a VPN and sign up to whichever country it's cheapest in. You don't have to set up a family plan but it will work out cheaper if you have other members.

Peig Sayers · 12-01-2021 9:38pm

Fingers Mcginty wrote: »

Do you have to have indian rupees on your revolut for this to work using an indian address.

I've just setup everything up and revolut says theres a temporary hold on my card??

Same thing happened to me earlier on. There was a 2c charge on my Revolut card but it's been reverted now.

Snake Plisken · 12-01-2021 9:39pm

Just to repeat a question can you cancel your Google drive sub and take it out in india as well and save on the €1.99 per month similar to premium?

psicic · 12-01-2021 9:47pm

Fingers Mcginty wrote: »

Do you have to have indian rupees on your revolut for this to work using an indian address.

I've just setup everything up and revolut says theres a temporary hold on my card??

Don't know if this helps, but:

Started the sign up to Revolut just after work, so around 6-ish this evening.

After all the sign up,I just added 75 euro to my Revolut (amount chosen at random by me - no particular reason except I wanted enough to cover a few months of Youtube).

Then I realised account was limited until I verified my identity. Did the whole passport scan and selfie thing.
Also realised you have to go into settings and verify your email address.

Approx 50 minutes after starting the process - at exactly 6.50pm - I got an email that my Revolut account was now fully setup and I could use it to 'manage' my money. Jokes on them - I'll be using it to spend it instead!

Then I just entered the details as you would a normal mastercard debit card on the Youtube sign-up page mentioned in my previous post.

According to Revolut, this was about 7.12pm when I signed up to Youtube Premium, so the process took somewhere between and hour and an hour and a half.

I did not fill in anything on Revolut about India.

Mecrab · 12-01-2021 10:02pm

Surfing from India using NORDVPN and the YouTube premium sign up page is displaying the price in AED which I googled and is the currency of United Arab Emirates? This happening to anyone else? It works out to 5 euro a month when converted so not quite as good as rupees..

Beersmith · 12-01-2021 10:13pm

psicic wrote: »

Some earlier posters asking about existing Youtube Premium members. I was an existing Youtube Premium member (was worth it back in the day when they made their own content). These are the steps I took to get Family membership in India:
Cancelled my current YouTube Premium membership (after cancelling I had one week left of premium benefits)

Set up a Google family here https://families.google.com/families - as per nephster's post above waited til all family members had accepted

Set up a VPN - my current one (AirVPN) didn't have India or Turkey so went with Surfshark (if you haven't looked at VPN features in a while, the bigger brands have come on a lot)

Just as an added step, I dug out my passport and finally finished registering for Revolut. I understand it wasn't necessary to use Revolut and you can use your normal card, but sure why not

Went to the YouTube Manage subscription page here: https://www.youtube.com/paid_memberships and clicked in to the Family Membership (if going solo, the premium link is also on this page)

Turned on the VPN and refreshed the page

Prices changed to Rupees

Clicked on the subscribe buttons - 10 rupees for the next week, then 189 for next month.

Only asked me for an Indian State - not a full address. (Dehli, by the way!)

That's it, access was instant.

Also, I would suggest making sure your family members you invite are their gmail addresses, just for ease of them using on their phones.

So you just have to wait until premium ran out before resigning up yes?

logically · 12-01-2021 10:17pm

Mecrab wrote: »

Surfing from India using NORDVPN and the YouTube premium sign up page is displaying the price in AED which I googled and is the currency of United Arab Emirates? This happening to anyone else? It works out to 5 euro a month when converted so not quite as good as rupees..

Yes, same for me with Nord. Tried multiple times connecting and disconnecting to the 2 available India choices.

After 10 minutes faffing about, I downloads hola temporarily and got connected and signed up no problem.

Tipsy McSwagger · 12-01-2021 10:38pm

Just done it for premium, so happy.

Mimikyu · 12-01-2021 10:45pm

Fingers Mcginty wrote: »

Do you have to have indian rupees on your revolut for this to work using an indian address.

I've just setup everything up and revolut says theres a temporary hold on my card??

No you don't need to convert on Revolut for it to work. Revolut will do the conversion out of your Euro account. The temporary hold should drop off shortly.

Mecrab wrote: »

Surfing from India using NORDVPN and the YouTube premium sign up page is displaying the price in AED which I googled and is the currency of United Arab Emirates? This happening to anyone else? It works out to 5 euro a month when converted so not quite as good as rupees..

This is a common problem with Nord from what I've read. As another poster mentioned Hola should work.

MayoForSam · 12-01-2021 10:46pm

feelings wrote: »

This is important if you're setting it up. Got to have members added (and invitations accepted) before you do the vpn trick.

Nope, I just logged into my own YouTube account, activated Hola for India in Chrome and then subscribed to Premium (first month free). Added all my family members afterwards, no bother.

I had been using Vanced on my phone but that doesn't work on any TV, tablet, PC, laptop, etc. €2 p.m. is a steal for 6 heavy YouTube users.

paska · 12-01-2021 10:52pm

Lucas Hood wrote: »

189 rupees for me or about 2.10 Euro

It's actually 2.14 euro. Paid today:D:D:D:D:D

jakdublin · 12-01-2021 11:19pm

Nice one lads. Forgot about all my uploaded music on Google Play, which is about to expire shortly I think. Just transferring all those long lost albums over to YouTube now. Working out about €1.45 a month for the single account.

Zimmerframe · 13-01-2021 2:43am

Mecrab wrote: »

Surfing from India using NORDVPN and the YouTube premium sign up page is displaying the price in AED which I googled and is the currency of United Arab Emirates? This happening to anyone else? It works out to 5 euro a month when converted so not quite as good as rupees..

Nord doing the same for me, Hola worked fine for me.
Single user sub, I got 4 months free and 129 rupees per month from May onwards (€1.44 approx)
Can't complain about that.

psicic · 13-01-2021 3:00am

Beersmith wrote: »

So you just have to wait until premium ran out before resigning up yes?

Nope.

Cancelled my full-price Youtube premium around lunchtime yesterday. The cancellation took a few minutes to process.

When it had gone through, it said I still had member benefits up to 17th Jan - not sure if it's a standard thing that you get 5 days added on or whether that was my actual renewal date.

Either way, I had decided not to wait for this to expire, and signed up to the family pack at Indian prices around 7pm yesterday. Wanted to go with family-style premium so I could add family members, but I did seem to have the option to join the solo-premium. (I thought I clicked into it out of interest, but am not sure now... I think there was a rejoin button as well that I didn't click)

Sign up went through with no problems, and have had a celebratory night of watching tonnes of Youtube.

(I've been paying premium since the days of Youtube Red - but given the changes since then on what comes with Premium, this is a much fairer price that makes it worthwhile to keep on. And just in case anyone was wondering in relation to Youtube, I was being suggested tonnes of India-based videos on Youtube in November/December, but not one Indian recommendation in the last 4 hours of Youtubing! So unlike some of the other streaming services, the location you sign up at has a limited effect on my recommendations. Someday I hope Deezer stops recommending me Turkish dance music!)

nephster · 13-01-2021 11:51am

MayoForSam wrote: »

Nope, I just logged into my own YouTube account, activated Hola for India in Chrome and then subscribed to Premium (first month free). Added all my family members afterwards, no bother.

I had been using Vanced on my phone but that doesn't work on any TV, tablet, PC, laptop, etc. €2 p.m. is a steal for 6 heavy YouTube users.

Just to check, have those family members accepted the invitations yet?
I can *invite* people no bother, but when you get to the very end stage, it doesn't allow it, saying you are in a different country to the family manager. Thankfully, I don't need to add anyone else for real.

It might be it works for some people and not for others, but you won't know until you try, will you? So safest to set up the Family first, if possible. I certainly can't add anyone else (unless they go through a VPN rigmarole and set themselves up as being in the same payment country as me with a foreign address).

DM1983 · 13-01-2021 11:56am

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Or for Android, Youtube Vanced

Such a good tip. Thanks a million. What else am I missing out on? Have Netflix through Turkey. Spotify solution?

TheDriver · 13-01-2021 12:05pm

DM1983 wrote: »

Such a good tip. Thanks a million. What else am I missing out on? Have Netflix through Turkey. Spotify solution?

Tidal

MayoForSam · 13-01-2021 3:09pm

nephster wrote: »

Just to check, have those family members accepted the invitations yet?
I can *invite* people no bother, but when you get to the very end stage, it doesn't allow it, saying you are in a different country to the family manager. Thankfully, I don't need to add anyone else for real.

It might be it works for some people and not for others, but you won't know until you try, will you? So safest to set up the Family first, if possible. I cettainly can't add anyone else (unless they go through a VPN rigmarole and set themselves up as being in the same payment country as me with a foreign address).

Yes, everyone signed up, no issues.

Irish Kev · 13-01-2021 3:47pm

I had to change the country of one user(herself) and had to remove the payment type that was linked to that account.

Once done it worked

YouTube Premium thread SEE OP

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