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  • #1152
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,714 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Zzippy wrote: »
    If you're living in Knocknacarra, working in Parkmore, and your commute becomes worse by lane removal, you'll be pretty fed up. If you're spending hours sitting in traffic while watching bus after bus whizz past in their dedicated lane, it won't take long for the penny to drop.

    "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em".

    The bus simply won’t suit the needs of enough people for various different reasons so you will still have all the traffic and busses suiting some but no where near enough people.

    It would massively reduce the throughout of people putting a bus lane in, massively.

    I’ve no problem whatsoever with a bus lane and of course busses that get people quickly across town would be great and suit some people some of the time. But you can’t do it to the detriment of the majority of cars.

    If the ring road was built then the bus lane on the QB could be considered as a very good idea as there would be a very viable alternate route for cars.


  • #1153
    cooperguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    xckjoo wrote: »
    It's the Councils own projections so take it up with them. I think what_traffic has posted the direct link before but you can find it on their website if not.



    It's not vision or joined up thinking though. It's 1970's thinking. Stuff that has been a proven failure throughout the world and is going to fail based on the councils own accepted predictions. Even major car-based cities like LA are rethinking this kind of strategy as it's a proven failure (despite all the roads they have traffic congestion is still awful). But here we are looking backwards once again. Continuing to focus on moving people around with private car ownership will not and cannot work. Usage will just expand to fill the new road capacity. It's not rocket science, but I guess it's also not intuitively obvious at first glance. But these are professionals who should be up-to-date on this kind of thing and visionary enough to learn from past mistakes.

    Which is why that is not the proposal... They aren't just adding lanes and roads for the sake of it (like LA). They are shutting down one of the main roads through the city centre and dedicating it to public transport (for example). You cant do that with the number of river crossings we have.

    You can only call it an LA style solution if you look at the new road in isolation, which was the exact thing I was complaining about.


  • #1154
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    cooperguy wrote: »
    Which is why that is not the proposal... They aren't just adding lanes and roads for the sake of it

    Seems to me you still have not read City and County Councils reports on this stuff to be honest. There targets for 2039 is LA style figures for public transport and cycling. Walking not so much, but that's cos we are only a town.


  • #1155
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    what_traffic wrote: »
    Seems to me you still have not read City and County Councils reports on this stuff to be honest. There targets for 2039 is LA style figures for public transport and cycling. Walking not so much, but that's cos we are only a town.

    Goto
    ABP website and search for
    "N6 Galway City Ring Road
    Design Report"
    Page 91/92 has the stats

    Table 2.32: Mode Share Percentages
    Option % Car % PT % Walk % Cycle
    2012 Base Year 66.7% 3.9% 26.3% 3.1%
    2024 Do-Minimum 67.4% 4.2% 25.4% 3.0%
    2024 Do-Something 68.4% 4.0% 24.9% 2.7%
    2039 Do-Minimum 67.4% 4.3% 25.2% 3.1%
    2039 Do-Something 68.6% 4.1% 24.5% 2.8%
    2039 GTS 67.3% 5.0% 24.9% 2.8%

    GTS = Galway Transportation Strategy


  • #1156
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Jazmin Harsh Gold wrote: »
    It would massively reduce the throughout of people putting a bus lane in, massively.

    You are stating the exact opposite of the facts

    503395.jpg

    503396.png

    Consider the likes of the 409 (carries more than one million passengers a year) which had its frequency of increased to every 10 mins from 7am to 7pm and which BE have already stated they want to increase the frequency on to a much higher level with the only barrier being the lack of further bus lane expansion


  • #1157
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,714 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You are stating the exact opposite of the facts

    503395.jpg

    [IMG]https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=503396&stc=1&d=1582234274 Consider the likes of the 409 (carries more than one million passengers a year) which had its frequency of increased to every 10 mins from 7am to 7pm and which BE have already stated they want to increase the frequency on to a much higher level with the only barrier being the lack of further bus lane expansion[/img]

    There should be a rule against posting them ridiculous images over and over.

    What good is the bus if it doesn’t suit enough people’s needs? A large number of people do not simply go from a to b. They go to x y and z too, no form of transport (aside from a helicopter) is as efficient as a car for doing the types of journeys large numbers of people do.

    Put in a bus lane on the QB for example and a small percentage moveimh to the bus will make no real difference to the absolute chaos that it will be in the car lanes as the same traffic that’s that’s trying to manage on two lanes now has to use one.

    You will make a lot of peoples lives absolute torture if you try to force something on them that just won’t work. It’s a total waste of time even discussing bus lanes etc until we have the ring road to help get cars around the city without having to go through town.


  • #1158
    zell12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,001 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    The car traffic was ridiculous today
    I'd say bus schedules went out the window.


  • #1159
    xckjoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    what_traffic wrote: »
    Goto
    ABP website and search for
    "N6 Galway City Ring Road
    Design Report"
    Page 91/92 has the stats

    Table 2.32: Mode Share Percentages
    Option % Car % PT % Walk % Cycle
    2012 Base Year 66.7% 3.9% 26.3% 3.1%
    2024 Do-Minimum 67.4% 4.2% 25.4% 3.0%
    2024 Do-Something 68.4% 4.0% 24.9% 2.7%
    2039 Do-Minimum 67.4% 4.3% 25.2% 3.1%
    2039 Do-Something 68.6% 4.1% 24.5% 2.8%
    2039 GTS 67.3% 5.0% 24.9% 2.8%

    GTS = Galway Transportation Strategy
    Wonder what the population growth predictions are for the same period. That 67.3% might be a lot of cars


  • #1160
    ChewyLouie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 511 ✭✭✭ChewyLouie


    Parkmore to Knocnacarra was 1hr 15mins in the car this evening. Turned the car off a couple of times, no movement. Bus lanes and public transport options are badly needed asap.


  • #1161
    zell12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,001 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    I heard there was a burst water main near the G.
    A clear coincidence that a road planning hearing was taking place right there, of course ;)
    https://www.galwaydaily.com/news/burst-water-pipes-on-the-dublin-road-disrupting-city-traffic/


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  • #1162
    Storm 10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Burst water main off the road near the wall and they closed off traffic lanes when there was no need to, they are working there today and no lane closed bet someone got a a few words in their ear because they caused absolute chaos yesterday, this City is the pits for traffic thanks to our genius engineers in City Hall.


  • #1163
    pure.conya
    Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭pure.conya


    ben.schlomo wrote: »
    Town is busy today, one of the busiest days since Xmas. Looks like everyone used their four wheels to get in.

    i cycled in from roscam in 20 mins and cycled home in 20 mins :)


  • #1164
    Ashleigh1986
    Registered Users Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Ashleigh1986


    The city will be like one massive car park later .
    Novena / midterm / terrible weather ....
    Stay away if at all possible ...
    But the sheep will all decide to go into town because the weather is so bad and my kids are bored at home .


  • #1165
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,452 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Jazmin Harsh Gold wrote: »
    There should be a rule against posting them ridiculous images over and over.

    What good is the bus if it doesn’t suit enough people’s needs? A large number of people do not simply go from a to b. They go to x y and z too, no form of transport (aside from a helicopter) is as efficient as a car for doing the types of journeys large numbers of people do.

    Put in a bus lane on the QB for example and a small percentage moveimh to the bus will make no real difference to the absolute chaos that it will be in the car lanes as the same traffic that’s that’s trying to manage on two lanes now has to use one.

    You will make a lot of peoples lives absolute torture if you try to force something on them that just won’t work. It’s a total waste of time even discussing bus lanes etc until we have the ring road to help get cars around the city without having to go through town.


    Many people find it easy enough to walk for 5-15 minutes to or from a bus stop. To be honest, I think it's the deck shoes that are holding you back. Try some Goretex walking shoes and you might actually enjoy the experience, get some exercise, maybe even meet some people.


  • #1166
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,714 ✭ [Deleted User]


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Many people find it easy enough to walk for 5-15 minutes to or from a bus stop. To be honest, I think it's the deck shoes that are holding you back. Try some Goretex walking shoes and you might actually enjoy the experience, get some exercise, maybe even meet some people.

    Ha ha as if I’m going to be told what shoes I wear. Very hard to get a nice looking pair of water proof shoes and I won’t wear any old shoe.

    Not sure why you are suggesting busses to me, there is no bus anywhere near my home and driving is and will only ever be my only option from the county side to work in the city.

    Regardless I would see a 15 min walk to a bus as unacceptable as would the majority of people. To put it in context it only takes me 30 mins door to door to drive from 25km out the county to work and often a little less to get home.


  • #1167
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Jazmin Harsh Gold wrote: »
    There should be a rule against posting them ridiculous images over and over.

    What good is the bus if it doesn’t suit enough people’s needs? A large number of people do not simply go from a to b. They go to x y and z too, no form of transport (aside from a helicopter) is as efficient as a car for doing the types of journeys large numbers of people do.

    Put in a bus lane on the QB for example and a small percentage moveimh to the bus will make no real difference to the absolute chaos that it will be in the car lanes as the same traffic that’s that’s trying to manage on two lanes now has to use one.

    You will make a lot of peoples lives absolute torture if you try to force something on them that just won’t work. It’s a total waste of time even discussing bus lanes etc until we have the ring road to help get cars around the city without having to go through town.

    And you will seriously affect residents & businesses to the West of Galway. The opponents of the ring road want us to be able to work locally but expect every business, delivery vehicle etc to go through the City.


  • #1168
    ratracer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,314 ✭✭✭ratracer


    Methinks the road has failed a long, long time ago!!

    https://twitter.com/galwaycityco/status/1230825566535811073?s=21


  • #1169
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Moneen road collapsed.fcukin carnage


  • #1170
    Gremlinertia
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,484 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Moneen road collapsed.fcukin carnage

    Whoa!. Where exactly does anyone know?. That's going to be a complete mess..


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  • #1171
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Gremlinertia wrote: »
    Whoa!. Where exactly does anyone know?. That's going to be a complete mess..



    Road closed from huntsman up to ballybane up the hill by moneen school.


  • #1172
    xckjoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Jazmin Harsh Gold wrote: »
    You will make a lot of peoples lives absolute torture if you try to force something on them that just won’t work. It’s a total waste of time even discussing bus lanes etc until we have the ring road to help get cars around the city without having to go through town.
    This line sums up the ring road nicely. Continuing to force a system down peoples throats that already makes the majority of peoples lives absolute torture. Lots of people would happily give up the need for a second car and take the bus or some other option if it was available.



    FWIW, I got the bus home from work yesterday. Got stuck on College Road but walked the rest of the way and can guarantee I was home in a fraction of the time it took others to make the same journey by car. I just felt sorry for the older people on the bus who had to sit and wait.

    Passed about 6 double decker city buses on the walk to Eyre Square. That's potentially 420 people (Google tells me about 70 people fit on a double decker) or 420 cars if they were all driving instead. How anyone can continue to claim driving is more efficient than public transport for anything other than selfish reasons is beyond me. Most people just go home<->work on the daily commute. Fringe cases of people that aren't organised enough to not make 20 stops on the way shouldn't be blocking the rest of us from not sitting in traffic for half our lives.


  • #1173
    cooperguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    what_traffic wrote: »
    Seems to me you still have not read City and County Councils reports on this stuff to be honest. There targets for 2039 is LA style figures for public transport and cycling. Walking not so much, but that's cos we are only a town.

    Seems like you haven't done much reading yourself. LA has an 85% private car modal share. Galway is targeting 45%.


  • #1174
    Ashleigh1986
    Registered Users Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Ashleigh1986


    Just an update ...
    Novena on
    Midterm on
    Terrible weather And now
    Collapsed road !!!!!
    TAKE NOTE SHEEP
    GALWAY CITY IS A NO GO AREA !!!!!


  • #1175
    topcat77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭topcat77


    87365172_2841427599246797_226994944353501184_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=HWHIG8-PEOgAX-S2c64&_nc_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=04693b377e984cce855dca529ed193ce&oe=5EF2DFDA

    Avoid Wellpark Road/Moneenageisha junction as part of the Wellpark Road outbound has collapsed. Down to one lane at the moment and traffic management is being put in place. Traffic is already extremely heavy around Galway. Photo: Galway City Council


  • #1176
    Ashleigh1986
    Registered Users Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Ashleigh1986


    When yourman is finished repairing the road he is going to have to give his mate WHOSE HOLDING UP THE BROKEN WALL A HAND !!!


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  • #1177
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ashleigh1986 wrote: »
    When yourman is finished repairing the road he is going to have to give his mate WHOSE HOLDING UP THE BROKEN WALL A HAND !!!
    Looks like he is using a consaw, probably better to give him some room to do his job safely.


  • #1178
    xckjoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Looks like he is using a consaw, probably better to give him some room to do his job safely.
    Don't you know that more is always better.....




    Anyway, road is back open again according to GCC twitter


  • #1179
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    xckjoo wrote: »
    Wonder what the population growth predictions are for the same period. That 67.3% might be a lot of cars

    I presume the 120,000 figure aimed at for in the "Ireland 2040" plan; its the rurban growth which could be the most problematic
    Essentially it means we are threading water with the ring road.
    Daft stuff really. So if road gets built by 2030, will be back to square one again within a generation I reckon.


  • #1180
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    cooperguy wrote: »
    Seems like you haven't done much reading yourself. LA has an 85% private car modal share. Galway is targeting45%.

    Link or chapter ref?
    2039 GTS 67.3% for Car (with Ring Road)
    67.3% is closer to 85% than 45%

    this is ABP Website: N6 Galway City Ring Road Design Report (14th Feb 2019)
    http://www.pleanala.ie/publicaccess/ABP-302848-18%20-%20FI%20Response/ABP-302848-18%20-%20Volume%204%20-%20RFI%20Documentation/Volume%201%20-%20Report/ABP-302848-18%20-%20RFI%20Design%20Report%20-%20Volume%201%20-%20Main%20Report.pdf

    see page 91/92


  • #1181
    cooperguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    what_traffic wrote: »
    Link or chapter ref?
    2039 GTS 67.3% for Car (with Ring Road)
    67.3% is closer to 85% than 45%

    this is ABP Website: N6 Galway City Ring Road Design Report (14th Feb 2019)
    http://www.pleanala.ie/publicaccess/ABP-302848-18%20-%20FI%20Response/ABP-302848-18%20-%20Volume%204%20-%20RFI%20Documentation/Volume%201%20-%20Report/ABP-302848-18%20-%20RFI%20Design%20Report%20-%20Volume%201%20-%20Main%20Report.pdf

    see page 91/92

    The overall Galway Transport strategy website - Main technical report, page 25. Commuting drops to 45% car journeys, sustainable transport: 55%


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  • #1182
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    cooperguy wrote: »
    The overall Galway Transport strategy website - Main technical report, page 25. Commuting drops to 45% car journeys, sustainable transport: 55%

    Ya but look at the dates on the documents....


  • #1183
    cooperguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    what_traffic wrote: »
    Ya but look at the dates on the documents....

    Its referencing the doc I linked to (unless they have updated the strategy and haven't put it on the council transport strategy website?)


  • #1184
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    cooperguy wrote: »
    The overall Galway Transport strategy website - Main technical report, page 25. Commuting drops to 45% car journeys, sustainable transport: 55%

    and that 55% is for 2020 :D
    but that was expectation on the 01-09-2016


  • #1185
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    cooperguy wrote: »
    Its referencing the doc I linked to (unless they have updated the strategy and haven't put it on the council transport strategy website?)

    No in fairness your figures are right for that time - but the modeling used in the 2019 doc on the ABP site has been altered from the GTS 2016 report.


  • #1186
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    what_traffic wrote: »
    No in fairness your figures are right for that time - but the modeling used in the 2019 doc on the ABP site has been altered from the GTS 2016 report.

    Now the mad thing - lets see what figures are produced at the Oral Hearing. Would not be surprised if they are changed again.


  • #1187
    motley
    Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭motley


    It's been a long time since I saw the traffic as bad as it is this evening. Traffic everywhere.


  • #1188
    cooperguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    what_traffic wrote: »
    No in fairness your figures are right for that time - but the modeling used in the 2019 doc on the ABP site has been altered from the GTS 2016 report.

    So who did that altering and is it more valid than the officially commissioned report that I assume we spent a lot of money on? Either way, as far as I can see the GTS site has the current targets for when they can implement the public transport section of the plan. Which is dependent on a new river crossing so that they can dedicate the central roads to public transport.

    Its the governing document for the transport plan for Galway. For which the ring road is only one part.


  • #1189
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    cooperguy wrote: »
    So who did that altering and is it more valid than the officially commissioned report that I assume we spent a lot of money on?
    Nice try - but this is ALL official commissioned stuff.
    Ya you would be right - loads of money has been spent all this stuff. Millions

    More Valid to look at the modeling in 2019 rather than a statement in 2016 that said by 2020 would be 55% (Public Transport, Walking and Cycling) v 45% Car

    It is essentially the same people, same orgs. Person responsible for Data Modeling the 2019 is presenting at Oral Hearing who is also listed in the 2016 appendix documents.
    As said already -lets see what figures are produced at the Oral Hearing. Would not be surprised if they are changed again.


  • #1190
    cooperguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    what_traffic wrote: »
    Nice try - but this is ALL official commissioned stuff.
    Ya you would be right - loads of money has been spent all this stuff. Millions

    More Valid to look at the modeling in 2019 rather than a statement in 2016 that said by 2020 would be 55% (Public Transport, Walking and Cycling) v 45% Car

    It is essentially the same people, same orgs. Person responsible for Data Modeling the 2019 is presenting at Oral Hearing who is also listed in the 2016 appendix documents.
    As said already -lets see what figures are produced at the Oral Hearing. Would not be surprised if they are changed again.

    Im not "trying" anything. There is an official plan which is being executed. The road is one part of that. Nice try yourself, referencing documents of a sub project to the GTS instead of the GTS itself.

    The least valid criticism is that it hasnt been delivered on time. Unfortunately that's the way these things go. The Luas, the children's hospital etc. etc. These things do not meet their original timeline.


  • #1191
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    cooperguy wrote: »
    Nice try yourself, referencing documents of a sub project to the GTS instead of the GTS itself.
    This is factually incorrect


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  • #1192
    what_traffic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    cooperguy wrote: »
    Im not "trying" anything. There is an official plan which is being executed. The road is one part of that. Nice try yourself, referencing documents of a sub project to the GTS instead of the GTS itself.

    The idea that that Ring Road is a sub project of the overall GTS 2016 strategy is nonsense.
    The whole strategy was built on the premise of a built Ring Road.
    The 2019 report submitted to ABP takes precedence in my book.


  • #1193
    cooperguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    what_traffic wrote: »
    The idea that that Ring Road is a sub project of the overall GTS 2016 strategy is nonsense.
    The whole strategy was built on the premise of a built Ring Road.
    The 2019 report submitted to ABP takes precedence in my book.

    The whole strategy hinges on getting that extra river crossing so that they can change the use of the other roads. Nobody is arguing that. In your book the ring road report takes precedence despite the fact that the same report actively refers out to the GTS as the overall plan and how the road facilitates it...


  • #1194
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    motley wrote: »
    It's been a long time since I saw the traffic as bad as it is this evening. Traffic everywhere.

    Everywhere?

    Parkmore Rd is pretty much empty

    The bus got thru the Briarhill junction at the first chance of the lights.

    Ballybane Rd is flowing freely.

    A very slight queue on Monivea Rd going in to Ballybane Rd.


  • #1195
    xckjoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    cooperguy wrote: »
    The overall Galway Transport strategy website - Main technical report, page 25. Commuting drops to 45% car journeys, sustainable transport: 55%

    Those numbers are Targets while the numbers in the Ring Road Design Report is a Forecast. Targets which they've clearly failed to achieve :D


  • #1196
    cooperguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    xckjoo wrote: »
    Those numbers are Targets while the numbers in the Ring Road Design Report is a Forecast. Targets which they've clearly failed to achieve :D

    They are targets based on the activity planned. They missed the date, but thats hardly surprising...


  • #1197
    xckjoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    cooperguy wrote: »
    They are targets based on the activity planned. They missed the date, but thats hardly surprising...

    Targets are aspirational. Forecasts are the result of some research and modelling


  • #1198
    cooperguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    xckjoo wrote: »
    Targets are aspirational. Forecasts are the result of some research and modelling

    The whole plan is a result of research and modelling


  • #1199
    Storm 10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Everywhere?

    Parkmore Rd is pretty much empty

    The bus got thru the Briarhill junction at the first chance of the lights.

    Ballybane Rd is flowing freely.

    A very slight queue on Monivea Rd going in to Ballybane Rd.

    Today was one of the worst chaos for traffic that I have seen your nit picking, the problems were all roads in the City not the outskirts


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    Been working remotely this week so can’t comment on traffic, sounds like it’s bad this evening though.


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    xckjoo
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    cooperguy wrote: »
    The whole plan is a result of research and modelling

    The section you're referring to is discussing the National Policy and Guidelines and specifically the "Smarter Travel - A Sustainable Transport Future" policy document from 2009. It's got nothing to do with any local plans beyond national policy dictates (dictated?) that we should be seeking to achieve the 5 key goals and 6 targets it summarises on those pages.


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