Letting to a friend - Issues

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't think what she's doing is all that bad tbh. Nothing that couldn't be solved with a frank conversation and a cleaning rota. She's an adult and can sleep with whoever she wants, imo.

Absolutely, but she should try and Keep it down.
However she’s a guest in these people’s house and shouldn’t be bringing back randomers or having people stay over.

No one us saying she can’t go to a hotel or to the blokes house.

First rule or hook ups is always go to there’s so you can leave when you want. Nothing worse than trying to get rid of someone the following morning.

worded wrote: »

Hi,

If she rings threshold they will not speak to her as she is not a tenant she is a licencee as has been said.

You have to give reasonable notice so a month is fine.

When advertising the place again suggest you do the following

Advertise a single occupancy rate and a couple date rate PM. So note this in the body of the details. This means if the single person becomes a full time couple they were level set / pre warned of a couple rate.

Consider a m-f deal and -20% of market value. Someone may go home every weekend.

Watch out for someone who says they are back home most weekends if that’s a bonus for your.

Never put your phone number on the daft ad. Short list by email.

Only reply to ppl you want to by email and ask

Thanks for your email enquiry.

“is it for you Solo or for a couple and or kids“

Can I ask about your work or study etc

These two questions will usually give you enough info to let you know if they warrant interest.

Find out if they work shift work - does this suit you to have someone working nights etc ?

It’s illegal (you can be sued) to refuse someone on RAS / unemployed but you don’t have to reply to their emails if you don’t want to, that’s not illegal.

Short list to 2 to 5 ppl for interviews and choose one. I’ve been sub letting for years successfully and happily choosing the right ppl for years.

No lease, just a page detailing move in date. Deposit x rent y.

Official move in date and signing date can be different so document it to leave no ambiguity in the future.

Rent to be paid on or before every whatever date every mth.


Signed

You_________________
Owner Occupier

Them________________
licensee

This makes it crystal clear the person is not a tenant and it’s not a lease but conf rent / dep received. Give a rent receipt every mth.

Note any rules you want but keep it brief.

Lastly .....

You may be better off sharing with the right strangers rather than a mate. Choose carefully. Shortlist by Email

Its the OPs home, they do NOT have to give any notice, it might be fair and reasonable, but if the person is not being reasonable, anti social or hostile, can be told to take what they can manage 5 mins and arrange the rest at a later date and go there and then, or Gardai, so you're wrong.


There is no way this comes under any legislation, if anyone said to me Threshold in my home as a means to debate or dispute me, Id show them the door,


An owner-occupier is better off writing nothing down for a licencee and they are under no obligation, it might just tie them to conditions or interpretations they didnt consider, or at least making up a list of rules you expect and have the licencee sign it, its not a lease, but a list of the highlighted agreements, I've had people tell me they werent smokers when they clearly were, as they lied I didnt let them move in, others who were smokers who told me they wouldnt smoke in house, most couldnt keep to that, is that serious/important, well if an owner doesnt smoke and they dont like it, yes, plus the risk of people smoking in the place they may not as easily be noticed, like the bedroom and potentially falling asleep and causing a fire, so rules for a licencee, yes, rules for the homeowner, well other than be fair and reasonable, but if its not returned --> door


I dont believe there is anything illegal about a person declining anyone on any basis to stay in their own home, I dont think RAS pays for a room, but if they do, a homeowner is under no obligation to take them on, Id steer clear of comments related to it and definitely in an advert, but I would be reluctant to let to someone who is potentially going to be around all day and cranking up the heating.
An email is an ok means to get contacted, but so is a seperate PAYG phone, I wouldnt put my main number in.

A rent receipt would be fair, but again no obligation, its like a PAYG accomodation contract, either can end it quite quickly, a months notice is fair and could be insisted on the owners side, but as mentioned, they are not obliged to honour that if there is any problem that is not resolved.

I let rooms and for the most part, I had no problems, but there were always people who would push on things, like not paying on time even though they had money for other stuff, not clean up after themselves/leave the place in a mess for everyone else and disrupt other people and you have to push them back, if they arent cooperative, its best to get rid of them sooner rather than later, maybe they'll learn something from that and not be difficult in their next place.

Hogzy wrote:

UPDATE: She finally left!!!

Under what circumstances?

Hogzy wrote: »

UPDATE: She finally left!!!

Next issue is that herself is too afraid to follow up on the bills that are owed from the friend. ESB/Gas is billed every two months and friend left at the end of month one. Getting fairly pissed off at the lack of my OH's backbone and the fact im going to have to split the cost of the bill, which includes the higher than usual energy bill because her boyfriend had been over 4 days:rolleyes:

Is it really worth getting annoyed over at most 40 or 50 quid? You have your house back

Hogzy wrote: »

UPDATE: She finally left!!!

Next issue is that herself is too afraid to follow up on the bills that are owed from the friend. ESB/Gas is billed every two months and friend left at the end of month one. Getting fairly pissed off at the lack of my OH's backbone and the fact im going to have to split the cost of the bill, which includes the higher than usual energy bill because her boyfriend had been over 4 days:rolleyes:

I'll advise you to rent out to a complete stranger. Also, don't do bills. Your max per year is €14k, so if the rent+bills you (should of) got off yer wan was around the €1,165 mark, consider just charging that amount, with rules on usage. Or if the intake was less, then just have the new rent at CurrentRent+Bills+10%

Most people realise that as you own the place, should they not play ball, you can kick them out.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

. Looks like the OH lost a friend

Or found out what a so-called friend is really like.