I just don't give a . Does anyone else just not give a ?

Infernal Racket · 09-10-2019 10:55am

realitykeeper wrote: »

And on faith, where do you stand? Surely you could give a wisp. You are correct on one point. You should.

Don't have any faith either, it's a false hope. I don't begrudge anyone who has faith though. If it gets you through the day the so be it

Infernal Racket · 09-10-2019 10:56am

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Sounds like you really do give a f OP.

Nope, I care about my family and close friends. After that, the "problems" of the world mean nothing to me

Fourier · 09-10-2019 11:00am

Gerry G wrote: »

Nope, I care about my family and close friends. After that, the "problems" of the world mean nothing to me

The question though is more about when the problems of the world might affect your family, either now or in the future. I don't think a clean division like this is always possible.

Keyzer · 09-10-2019 11:15am

Gerry G wrote: »

Climate change? Don't give a ****
50c extra for fags? Don't give a ****
Some young autistic girl sails around the world in a boat? Don't give a ****
Brexit? Don't give a ****
Some pseudo celebrity is angry about some **** or other on Twitter? Guess what, don't give a **** about that either.
Religion? Not a single gram of **** given.

There are so many people who care so much about all of the above as if it's the most important thing in the whole world but honestly I just don't give a **** about any of it. I know I probably should but I just don't. I feel completely unaffected by all the bull****. Anyone else feel the same?

Btw, I could write a full short novel on all the things I don't give a **** about.....

I like you Gerry G... that's why I'm going to kill you last.

Keyzer · 09-10-2019 11:16am

bucketybuck wrote: »

I actually agreed with the OP, when you are constantly bombarded with crises 24/7 year after year after year then eventually it is only natural to stop giving a **** about them. "Who is preaching at me today, oh, its some privileged little scrote who never had to worry about paying bills, great, throw her on the pile with all the other sanctimonious twats".

But then it turned out the OP isn't just tired of all that, he is actually a climate change denier, so I'm going to back away quietly.

He didn't deny climate change, he just doesn't give a fúck about it.

MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.

bucketybuck · 09-10-2019 11:43am

Keyzer wrote: »

He didn't deny climate change, he just doesn't give a fúck about it.

MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.

Nope. He is a denier of man made climate change, both its causes and effects. Read his posts.

Gerry G wrote: »

The only thing about climate change that is affecting my kids is the carbon taxes that the government keep levying on us all. Apart from that, the vast vast majority of the world is wholly unaffected by climate change

Gerry G wrote: »

Nope, climate change has been happening since the beginning of time and will continue until the end of time. Why would I worry or care about it. Nothing can be done to stop or alter the change so instead I just get on with my life.

Gerry G wrote: »

There were rapid climate changes in the past, have we any idea what caused those rapid changes? It certainly wasn't the plastic straws that mc donalds have gotten rid of and replaced with those pesky paper ones. It also wasn't caused by jet emissions or factory emissions or any other emission for that matter. Climate change is bandied about by every government the world over and guess what the outcome is? Yep, more tax money for said governments. Where does all this extra tax money go? Nobody knows

Gerry G wrote: »

No two climate changes have been the same, hence why this one is also different. The next one in a another couple of hundred years will be different again. See what I'm getting at? Climates change all the time for one reason or another, nothing we do will stop that so why stress about it?

Gerry G wrote: »

How has our actions been proven to help the current climate situation. What has changed for the better with our actions. We are continually told that things are getting worse and worse so what is actually getting better?

Gerry G wrote: »

No, climate change will not end the human species, that is exactly the kind of scaremongering and bull**** that I referred to in my original post.

Church on Tuesday · 09-10-2019 12:03pm

Gerry G wrote: »

Climate change? Don't give a ****
50c extra for fags? Don't give a ****
Some young autistic girl sails around the world in a boat? Don't give a ****
Brexit? Don't give a ****
Some pseudo celebrity is angry about some **** or other on Twitter? Guess what, don't give a **** about that either.
Religion? Not a single gram of **** given.

There are so many people who care so much about all of the above as if it's the most important thing in the whole world but honestly I just don't give a **** about any of it. I know I probably should but I just don't. I feel completely unaffected by all the bull****. Anyone else feel the same?

Btw, I could write a full short novel on all the things I don't give a **** about.....

That all kinda reads like a particularly sassy Beyonce song.

Infernal Racket · 09-10-2019 12:25pm

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

That all kinda reads like a particularly sassy Beyonce song.

If you can supply the music is be happy to sell you the lyrics ðŸ˜

stoneill · 09-10-2019 12:45pm

I was going to reply, but I couldn't give a sh1t

debok · 09-10-2019 12:50pm

Gerry G wrote: »

Climate change? Don't give a ****
50c extra for fags? Don't give a ****
Some young autistic girl sails around the world in a boat? Don't give a ****
Brexit? Don't give a ****
Some pseudo celebrity is angry about some **** or other on Twitter? Guess what, don't give a **** about that either.
Religion? Not a single gram of **** given.

There are so many people who care so much about all of the above as if it's the most important thing in the whole world but honestly I just don't give a **** about any of it. I know I probably should but I just don't. I feel completely unaffected by all the bull****. Anyone else feel the same?

Btw, I could write a full short novel on all the things I don't give a **** about.....

Don't worry someone else will give a **** on your behalf. Or get offended on your behalf

Infernal Racket · 09-10-2019 12:52pm

stoneill wrote: »

I was going to reply, but I couldn't give a sh1t

Ehhhhhhhh, but you just replied dude. Some of the posters on here would call that ironic or insinuate that you were in denial about some **** or other and they would read in to your reply completely wrong and when the can't figure you out they would call you a denier or some other bull**** term that's new nowadays

faceman · 09-10-2019 1:03pm

Fourier wrote: »

The question though is more about when the problems of the world might affect your family, either now or in the future. I don't think a clean division like this is always possible.

He’s too blinded by his ego to his the logic of your argument.

Infernal Racket · 09-10-2019 3:39pm

faceman wrote: »

He’s too blinded by his ego to his the logic of your argument.

Ego schmego

realitykeeper · 09-10-2019 9:56pm

Gerry G wrote: »

Don't have any faith either, it's a false hope. I don't begrudge anyone who has faith though. If it gets you through the day the so be it

What about faith in yourself? Would you study for a degree? Would you rise to a challenge?

Wayne Jarvis · 09-10-2019 10:25pm

This thread is funny to me. Someone says he only cares about things related to his life and the lives of his family and friends (which I agree with because I am the same) and he can't understand why people get so worked up about things they have no control over or that don't affect their lives at all. Then at least half the posts in the thread are from people getting worked up at him for having that opinion despite them having no control over that opinion and it not affecting their lives at all!
Those posts are the funniest ones in the thread.

Irish Guitarist · 09-10-2019 10:29pm

Some young lad in America was videoed having an altercation with an American Indian a few months ago and the internet was up in arms about it even though they had no clue what they were watching. There were even celebrities trying to get his address to do God knows what to him.

Look at this c-list moron threatening teenagers on the internet. What a brave man he is. He got over 2,000 retweets and 6,400 likes.

https://twitter.com/michaelrapaport/status/1086701428645650432?lang=en

Now the same people who made a 16 or 17 year old boys life a misery are crying "leave the poor child alone" when someone criticises a girl who is about the same age. Suddenly something that was perfectly acceptable in January is now child abuse.

It's hard to keep track of what I'm supposed to care about.

nthclare · 09-10-2019 10:29pm

I don't give a ****, couldn't give a bollox, **** me if I care.

Infernal Racket · 09-10-2019 11:00pm

Guy Person wrote: »

This thread is funny to me. Someone says he only cares about things related to his life and the lives of his family and friends (which I agree with because I am the same) and he can't understand why people get so worked up about things they have no control over or that don't affect their lives at all. Then at least half the posts in the thread are from people getting worked up at him for having that opinion despite them having no control over that opinion and it not affecting their lives at all!
Those posts are the funniest ones in the thread.

And the other half are people who have never met me, telling me that I should care about stuff and if I don't then I'm egotistical. I think they fail to realise that the absolute biggest thing I couldn't give a **** about is what people think of me. Never have and never will

Blueshoe · 09-10-2019 11:05pm

Gerry G wrote: »

And the other half are people who have never met me, telling me that I should care about stuff and if I don't then I'm egotistical. I think they fail to realise that the absolute biggest thing I couldn't give a **** about is what people think of me. Never have and never will

The more they complain the less reason to care.

Loafing Oaf · 09-10-2019 11:47pm

topper75 · 10-10-2019 12:15am

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Now the same people who made a 16 or 17 year old boys life a misery are crying "leave the poor child alone" when someone criticises a girl who is about the same age. Suddenly something that was perfectly acceptable in January is now child abuse.

It's hard to keep track of what I'm supposed to care about.

The good news is that you don't have to care about any of it.

What people want you to care about is them. Brexit/Trump/Climate/Budget "issues" are all merely vehicles for their egos to scutter on about. They want to feel special. They want to embrace the idea that they can make a difference. Be the hero. Be the clever clogs predicting the future. Be the one to tell others what to do and how to live. Doesn't matter if it is the Sky News journo, the know-it-all in the street protest, or the bore next to you in work. They want you to care about them.

But it is your prerogative not to give a flying **** about any of them. Their greatest fear is not a future apocalypse at all. It is your apathy; for it renders them as nothing.

Smart Bug · 10-10-2019 12:18am

Gerry G wrote: »

Climate change? Don't give a ****
50c extra for fags? Don't give a ****
Some young autistic girl sails around the world in a boat? Don't give a ****
Brexit? Don't give a ****
Some pseudo celebrity is angry about some **** or other on Twitter? Guess what, don't give a **** about that either.
Religion? Not a single gram of **** given.

There are so many people who care so much about all of the above as if it's the most important thing in the whole world but honestly I just don't give a **** about any of it. I know I probably should but I just don't. I feel completely unaffected by all the bull****. Anyone else feel the same?

Btw, I could write a full short novel on all the things I don't give a **** about.....

I think you need something to eat. That’ll help you give more of a s*** about things.

Bobblehats · 10-10-2019 12:37am

I couldnae care less. *hic* pass us another McEwans...

Fourier · 10-10-2019 7:22am

topper75 wrote: »

The good news is that you don't have to care about any of it.

What people want you to care about is them. Brexit/Trump/Climate/Budget "issues" are all merely vehicles for their egos to scutter on about. They want to feel special. They want to embrace the idea that they can make a difference. Be the hero. Be the clever clogs predicting the future. Be the one to tell others what to do and how to live. Doesn't matter if it is the Sky News journo, the know-it-all in the street protest, or the bore next to you in work. They want you to care about them.

But it is your prerogative not to give a flying **** about any of them. Their greatest fear is not a future apocalypse at all. It is your apathy; for it renders them as nothing.

That might be true for some people, but I think people are worried about the climate for genuine reasons, not everything has a cynical reading for all people.

Fourier · 10-10-2019 7:27am

Guy Person wrote: »

This thread is funny to me. Someone says he only cares about things related to his life and the lives of his family and friends (which I agree with because I am the same) and he can't understand why people get so worked up about things they have no control over or that don't affect their lives at all.

The point being made in most cases is that the position makes no sense. Climate change will affect the lives of family and friends. So it's hard to understand how you can not give a **** about climate change when you're only concerned with family and friends.

CFCs were the same, they would have caused an ozone hole leading to massive increases in cancers and environmental damage that would have affected evrybody on the planet. They didn't because protesters and political action prevented it. So it's clear personal action can change these things.

Blueshoe · 10-10-2019 8:05am

Fourier wrote: »

The point being made in most cases is that the position makes no sense. Climate change will affect the lives of family and friends. So it's hard to understand how you can not give a **** about climate change when you're only concerned with family and friends.

CFCs were the same, they would have caused an ozone hole leading to massive increases in cancers and environmental damage that would have affected evrybody on the planet. They didn't because protesters and political action prevented it. So it's clear personal action can change these things.

He may feel that as one person he can't make a difference so why worry about it. No point in in crying himself to sleep at night because the Chinese are burning coal.

Fourier · 10-10-2019 8:25am

Blueshoe wrote: »

He may feel that as one person he can't make a difference so why worry about it. No point in in crying himself to sleep at night because the Chinese are burning coal.

He seems to think the current climate change is not really any different to past natural changes, which isn't correct scientifically.

I get your point in general though.

faceman · 10-10-2019 8:27am

Blueshoe wrote: »

He may feel that as one person he can't make a difference so why worry about it. No point in in crying himself to sleep at night because the Chinese are burning coal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JknrFvii_4E

Wayne Jarvis · 10-10-2019 8:46am

Fourier wrote: »

The point being made in most cases is that the position makes no sense. Climate change will affect the lives of family and friends. So it's hard to understand how you can not give a **** about climate change when you're only concerned with family and friends.

CFCs were the same, they would have caused an ozone hole leading to massive increases in cancers and environmental damage that would have affected evrybody on the planet. They didn't because protesters and political action prevented it. So it's clear personal action can change these things.

Brexit is more likely to have affect on my family and friends than climate change in the immediate short term. Long term, yes I believe man made climate change will have a bad effect on humanity in general but I don't think that will change either so all I concern myself with is paying my mortgage and other bills and trying to be a good son/brother/friend to my loved ones.

Fourier · 10-10-2019 8:52am

Guy Person wrote: »

Brexit is more likely to have affect on my family and friends than climate change in the immediate short term. Long term, yes I believe man made climate change will have a bad effect on humanity in general but I don't think it will change either so all I concern myself with is paying my mortgage and other bills and trying to be a good son/brother/friend to my loved ones.

I can understand that, thanks for replying. Personally I'd say it will change eventually as companies and governments are starting to show the first signs of altering their behaviour like they did with CFCs.
I think the media tires people out with the apocalyptic talk, which the science doesn't support.

Blueshoe · 10-10-2019 10:05am

Guy Person wrote: »

Brexit is more likely to have affect on my family and friends than climate change in the immediate short term. Long term, yes I believe man made climate change will have a bad effect on humanity in general but I don't think that will change either so all I concern myself with is paying my mortgage and other bills and trying to be a good son/brother/friend to my loved ones.

Brexit, climate change etc.
Realistically there is nothing an individual can do about either so there isn't really any point in worrying about them.

Fourier · 10-10-2019 10:19am

Blueshoe wrote: »

Brexit, climate change etc.
Realistically there is nothing an individual can do about either so there isn't really any point in worrying about them.

It depends on what you mean by "do about it". No individual can single-handedly halt the industrial processes driving the change. However like CFCs change can be affected by multiple people exerting political pressure. If everybody had thought nothing could be done with CFCs, nothing would have been done. The fact is the collective effort of individual action has altered things like this in the past.

10-10-2019 1:52pm

I think rather than splitting the world just into things I care about and do not care about - I further split the latter into things I actively care about and try to do things about - and things I passively care about and do little other than use my vote or my conversations with politicians on my doorstep the right way.

I certainly do not care at all about the culture of offence we have in the online world - which I barely see reflected ever in the meat space world. While people go on and on in the twitter-verse about things like Black Face and Micro-aggressions - no one in the real world seems to care. If my daughter wants to dress up this Halloween as Moana like she did in the past - I will be black facing her and neither I nor anyone else in the real world appears to actually care. And the same is true for most "offence" in the online world from songs sung at weddings leaked by camera phone - to oulfellas in a lift making outdated jokes about wanting to go to the floor with womens lingere.

Then there are things I actively care about. I was incredibly active and activist during recent referendums for example. And in fact long before them to make them happen at all. At a local level I have cared about the mental health of complete strangers - for example running a guided meditation weekly for over 5 years now to which local students, cops, priests, politicians and more have and still do come to. And more recently I have been working with a friend on a "Jedi Acadamy" - a school for problem youths to whom we teach Jedi Training in all it's forms to give problem youths an outlet and guidance and improvements in their lives.

10-10-2019 1:54pm

Blueshoe wrote: »

Brexit, climate change etc.
Realistically there is nothing an individual can do about either so there isn't really any point in worrying about them.

Climate change is a weird one for me. I care enough about it to want to be active but I feel incapable of doing so. I am kind of jaded by it and as a consumer I do not really feel like I have the tools to really do anything about it.

Worse I think many industries have been cynical about it - cashing in on it through loopholes in legislation people like celebrated at the time. I re-tell often the story from another boards user as a case in point. A user who tried to "buy local" but found that due to loopholes in legislation the products like prawns he was told on the packaging were local - were despite being caught locally actually being driven to Morocco in freezer trucks to be shelled by cheap labour before being driven all the way back. How can I as a consumer work with that kind of thing effectively? I can't.

Worse without statistics I have found myself disillusioned by many environmental "wins". For example the big one for me at the moment is the fact my parents in their day never separated their waste. One big "win" we have in modern times is we do so now and plastic waste is separated for recycling and biological for other purposes and so on.

What is wrong with that? Well I watch people clean their plastic to go into the plastic waste bins. Many of them - significantly many - washing them under a streaming running hot tap. The sheer waste of water - heated water at that - by far undoing any overall environmental benefit of separating and recycling the plastic. Leaving me wondering to myself if the overall effect of this "win" in environmentalism due to nothing more than human ignorance is a large net overall damage to our environment.

So I do care about climate change - but I feel jaded and ineffectual and helpless in the face of it. I make myself a conscientious and informed consumer and recycler and I berate politicians on my doorstep and use my vote on the topic. But that is as far as I go. It is not that I do not care. I just consciously turn my caring off as it helps no one - much less my own anxiety and mental health on the subject.

To quote Andrew McAfee on the subject. I do not think we can conserve our way out of climate change. I think we have to innovate our way out of it as a species. And that is not just above - but far removed from - my pay grade. I applaud the people working in that field.

The Oort Cloud · 11-10-2019 4:25am

If it ain't one thing, its another.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKE1svgKVGQ

I just don't give a ****. Does anyone else just not give a ****?

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I just don't give a . Does anyone else just not give a ?