Am I responsible for cutting the hedge on my Neighbour’s side

fineso.mom · 13-09-2019 2:45pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Nothing surprises me any more. At one rental there were tall conifers that were twice the height of the 2 storey house just across the narrow lane. nb the lane itself was a disputed right of way... My landlord had been refused insurance on the house as they were so unstable and dangerous. They were on the neighbour;s land and there was no way he was about to get them topped. This was atop a mountain in Kerry so the gales were.... interesting. Landlord has sold now so someone else's problem.

Never met these problems anywhere but Ireland.

"Anywhere but Ireland" ???

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9508923/couple-face-having-their-home-repossessed-after-row-with-neighbour-over-garden-hedge/

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/neighbours-fall-out-over-boundary-2903275

And numerous others...

Graces7 · 13-09-2019 3:45pm

fineso.mom wrote: »

"Anywhere but Ireland" ???

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9508923/couple-face-having-their-home-repossessed-after-row-with-neighbour-over-garden-hedge/

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/neighbours-fall-out-over-boundary-2903275

And numerous others...

sigh... been away too long clearly. NOT! Maybe they are Irish folk! (oops!) I never saw this until I came to Ireland 20 years ago though. Not like it is here .

Kaskade · 13-09-2019 3:58pm

fineso.mom wrote: »

"Anywhere but Ireland" ???

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9508923/couple-face-having-their-home-repossessed-after-row-with-neighbour-over-garden-hedge/

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/neighbours-fall-out-over-boundary-2903275

And numerous others...

This is just nuts

paulieeye · 13-09-2019 4:33pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Never met these problems anywhere but Ireland.

:pac:

Ireland is the only place that has neighbourly disputes??

Could it be that you've just lived here for 20 years so that is your only point of reference?

fineso.mom · 13-09-2019 6:17pm

Graces7 wrote: »

sigh... been away too long clearly. NOT! Maybe they are Irish folk! (oops!) I never saw this until I came to Ireland 20 years ago though. Not like it is here .

I think you must be joking ? Are you actually suggesting that boundary fence/wall/hedge disputes are unique to Ireland? While at the same time suggesting that the two stories I linked are maybe Irish?
Really? As an Irish person I am quite insulted by that statement.
Edit... actually I'm more amused than insulted so ignore that last line.

Graces7 · 14-09-2019 2:02am

fineso.mom wrote: »

I think you must be joking ? Are you actually suggesting that boundary fence/wall/hedge disputes are unique to Ireland? While at the same time suggesting that the two stories I linked are maybe Irish?
Really? As an Irish person I am quite insulted by that statement.
Edit... actually I'm more amused than insulted so ignore that last line.

lol... In all my nearly 70 years in the Uk I never heard of or experienced disputes like I have seen and experienced here. There was a huge boundary dispute at the very first place I rented here and since then many others. Court cases, threats, etc etc.

All I can go on is my own considerable experience . Seen and heard some bitter stuff here. In Kerry even a TD and his neighbour coming to blows over it and both ending up in hospital.

14-09-2019 7:22am

Graces7 wrote: »

lol... In all my nearly 70 years in the Uk I never heard of or experienced disputes like I have seen and experienced here. There was a huge boundary dispute at the very first place I rented here and since then many others. Court cases, threats, etc etc.

All I can go on is my own considerable experience . Seen and heard some bitter stuff here. In Kerry even a TD and his neighbour coming to blows over it and both ending up in hospital.

Interesting, I have lived in the UK and US and saw a number of conflicts between neighbours, and heard of conflicts from friends. Saying it is a uniquely Irish issue is to accept that neighbours everywhere else do not have conflict. That in itself is a unique viewpoint.

Kerry people are mad, everyone from Cork knows that.

GrumpyMe · 14-09-2019 8:05am

Kaskade wrote: »

Wow, I love all the judgements and assumptions trying to flip this round onto me! As I said earlier I’m not getting into the years of other issues.

I agree the neighborly thing to do is to cut their side when we cut ours.

There isn't and should never have been a "their side ". You planted a hedge on your property and should have trimmed it so it stayed on your property. Each side of your hedge are your side!

14-09-2019 8:11am

GrumpyMe wrote: »

There isn't and should never have been a "their side ". You planted a hedge on your property and should have trimmed it so it stayed on your property. Each side of your hedge are your side!

Nonsense.

JaneP · 14-09-2019 8:34am

The OP has said they planted the hedge only 1 foot from the boundary. Clearly this is the root of the problem since the OP should have known well the hedge would grow well into the neighbours plot. It's a but rich to plant something that will clearly go across the boundary and then not maintain it. If OP didn't want to maintain they should have planted well within their own boundary. Everyone knows hedges can grow very wide 6 or 8 feet. So planting only 1 foot from the boundary was cheeky in itself!

14-09-2019 8:53am

JaneP wrote: »

The OP has said they planted the hedge only 1 foot from the boundary. Clearly this is the root of the problem since the OP should have known well the hedge would grow well into the neighbours plot. It's a but rich to plant something that will clearly go across the boundary and then not maintain it. If OP didn't want to maintain they should have planted well within their own boundary. Everyone knows hedges can grow very wide 6 or 8 feet. So planting only 1 foot from the boundary was cheeky in itself!

To be fair, not many people plant hedges 8 feet inside their boundary, that is a huge amount of garden to give up and unless you have a large site, 16 feet would be ludicrous. Realistically, hedge rows and boundary trees are planted at the boundary, not 8 feet inside it. Either the trees predated the neighbour, or, the neighbour was aware at the time they were planted and didn’t object.

Some of the comments here are nuts.

JaneP · 14-09-2019 8:58am

You wouldn't plan 6 feet inside the boundary. A hedge 6 feet wide in total - you plan it 3 feet inside the boundary giving 3 feet to grow in either direction, giving up 6 feet if your garden. Why would you expect your neighbours to give up 3 feet of their garden just because you want a hedge. Makes no sense. If you want a hedge keep it on your own land. Simple.

Dav010 wrote: »

To be fair, not many people plant hedges 8 feet inside their boundary, that is a huge amount of garden to give up and unless you have a large site, 16 feet would be ludicrous. Realistically, hedge rows and boundary trees are planted at the boundary, not 8 feet inside it. Either the trees predated the neighbour, or, the neighbour was aware at the time they were planted and didn’t object.

Some of the comments here are nuts.

Kaskade · 14-09-2019 9:40am

JaneP wrote: »

The OP has said they planted the hedge only 1 foot from the boundary. Clearly this is the root of the problem since the OP should have known well the hedge would grow well into the neighbours plot. It's a but rich to plant something that will clearly go across the boundary and then not maintain it. If OP didn't want to maintain they should have planted well within their own boundary. Everyone knows hedges can grow very wide 6 or 8 feet. So planting only 1 foot from the boundary was cheeky in itself!

I also said that I planted it 1 ft inside the boundary after agreeing with my neighbour so “clearly” you didn’t read all the posts before judgements.

Also. I was not aware that the hedge would grow to 6ft wide, it being the first time I planted a hedge. Thought my old neighbours were bad but looks like there are plenty of others out there. Thankfully my new neighbours are decent people.

GrumpyMe · 14-09-2019 9:44am

Kaskade wrote: »

I also said that I planted it 1 ft inside the boundary after agreeing with my neighbour so “clearly” you didn’t read all the posts before judgements...

After agreeing exactly what with the neighbour?

Kaskade · 14-09-2019 9:48am

GrumpyMe wrote: »

After agreeing exactly what with the neighbour?

I discussed planting a hedge with them
Asked them if they wanted us to planted it at the wire fence
They asked me to plant it a foot back on our side

We paid for and planted hedge that they were happy to have. 15 years on and many issues later everything is a conflict.

Any other questions?

jochenstacker · 14-09-2019 9:56am

I also said that I planted it 1 ft inside the boundary after agreeing with my neighbour so “clearly” you didn’t read all the posts before judgements...

GrumpyMe wrote: »

After agreeing exactly what with the neighbour?

To hold a biannual hoola hoop dance competition staged as a dance off at the nearest Dunne's stores car park, what do you think?

You even quoted the relevant part :rolleyes:

stratowide · 14-09-2019 10:11am

Well if you originally agreed with the neighbour to put the hedge 1ft in your side.Fair enough.

But if the hedge has grown out more in the 15 years.
I'd be cutting it back to the 1ft originally agreed(neighbour's side)

I wouldn't expect you to cut it though.Maybe take the branches to dispose of.

GrumpyMe · 14-09-2019 10:39am

Kaskade wrote: »

I discussed planting a hedge with them
Asked them if they wanted us to planted it at the wire fence
They asked me to plant it a foot back on our side

Appears to me you agreed to have a hedge in your garden!

14-09-2019 10:43am

GrumpyMe wrote: »

Appears to me you agreed to have a hedge in your garden!

Considering it’s planted there, I would take that as a given.

AulWan · 14-09-2019 11:18am

Kaskade wrote: »

I also said that I planted it 1 ft inside the boundary after agreeing with my neighbour so “clearly” you didn’t read all the posts before judgements.

Also. I was not aware that the hedge would grow to 6ft wide, it being the first time I planted a hedge. Thought my old neighbours were bad but looks like there are plenty of others out there. Thankfully my new neighbours are decent people.

You were not aware of how wide hedges grew? Then maybe you should have researched more before planting one, one foot inside your boundary.

You keep going on and on about your neigbours not being decent people but that actually has nothing to do with the hedge. You created this problem. I don't see they've done anything wrong here.

When you talked to them about planting the hedge, did you not also discuss who would be responsible for maintaining it?

I don't like hedges, too much work. If my neighbour had came to me about planting a hedge I would only agree to it on the understanding that they made sure it did encroach on my garden. If they had erected a fence and your overgrown hedge was knocking it down, you'd have to fix it.

Kaskade · 14-09-2019 11:24am

AulWan wrote: »

You were not aware of how wide hedges grew? Then maybe you should have researched more before planting one, one foot inside your boundary.

You keep going on and on about your neigbours not being decent people but that actually has nothing to do with the hedge. You created this problem. I don't see they've done anything wrong here.

When you talked to them about planting the hedge, did you not also discuss who would be responsible for maintaining it?

I don't like hedges, too much work. If my neighbour had came to me about planting a hedge I would only agree to it on the understanding that they made sure it did encroach on my garden. If they had erected a fence and your overgrown hedge was knocking it down, you'd have to fix it.

I’m done debating this. This is clearly a contentious issue all over the world. I know the situation between the ex Neighbour and the past history but I won’t go into details. Have never had a problem with any other Neighbour. Quite the opposite in fact. They agreed that the hedge, they suggested 1m inside my only past experience if hedges was how my parent and their civilized neighbours dealt with takin turns like adults. More fool me assuming that everybody was that civilized. I’m gone, no longer my problem. Lesson learned!

AulWan · 14-09-2019 11:37am

Kaskade wrote: »

I’m done debating this. This is clearly a contentious issue all over the world. I know the situation between the ex Neighbour and the past history but I won’t go into details. Have never had a problem with any other Neighbour. Quite the opposite in fact. They agreed that the hedge, they suggested 1m inside my only past experience if hedges was how my parent and their civilized neighbours dealt with takin turns like adults. More fool me assuming that everybody was that civilized. I’m gone, no longer my problem. Lesson learned!

Stop muddying the waters. You're using the excuse of "other issues" with the neighbour to justify being less then a good neighbour yourself.

You also didn't answer my question - did you not discuss (at time of planting) who would be responsible for maintaining it?

the_syco · 14-09-2019 2:14pm

Kaskade wrote: »

How many times do I need to say that there are other issues.

So, you are engaged in a "tit for tat" engagement, and you are now trying to one-up the neighbour by planting an invasive bush on your property next to the neighbours, to annoy them?

Kaskade wrote: »

They agreed that the hedge, they suggested 1m inside my only past experience if hedges was how my parent and their civilized neighbours dealt with takin turns like adults.

From your neighbours point of view, you'll be the uncivilised neighbour growing bushes that are overtaking his garden. With a but of luck, the neighbour will erect fences to prevent your bush covering his patch.

14-09-2019 2:47pm

the_syco wrote: »

So, you are engaged in a "tit for tat" engagement, and you are now trying to one-up the neighbour by planting an invasive bush on your property next to the neighbours, to annoy them?

From your neighbours point of view, you'll be the uncivilised neighbour growing bushes that are overtaking his garden. With a but of luck, the neighbour will erect fences to prevent your bush covering his patch.

According to the op, bushes were planted 15 yrs ago with agreement of neighbour. It helps to read the thread.

AulWan · 14-09-2019 2:59pm

Dav010 wrote: »

According to the op, bushes were planted 15 yrs ago with agreement of neighbour. It helps to read the thread.

And what has been the maintenance agreement in the past 15 years?

I did ask, but he OP has so far not said what agreement was made on maintenance when the hedge was planted.

It would be helpful to know.

14-09-2019 3:16pm

Our neighbour's hedge grows into our garden from time to time. If the neighbour is trimming his side he'll ask if we want this side cut. If not we just trim it ourselves and putting the clippings into our bin.

Fuss free.

Not exactly best friends with said neighbour either. Our conversations rarely go beyond a polite "How's it going?".

The fence between our houses was in need of being replaced over the summer, we asked if they'd go halves and they did.

Just basic communication and cordiality.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 14-09-2019 4:22pm

the_syco wrote: »

So, you are engaged in a "tit for tat" engagement, and you are now trying to one-up the neighbour by planting an invasive bush on your property next to the neighbours, to annoy them?

From your neighbours point of view, you'll be the uncivilised neighbour growing bushes that are overtaking his garden. With a but of luck, the neighbour will erect fences to prevent your bush covering his patch.

My neighbour did this but unfortunately for his hedge he didn't quite measure and while some of its on the boundary line quite a bit of the hedge has been planted on my garden.

I can wait to let it grow a bit because I'll be gladly taking out anything that's on my property and it won't leave him with much when I'm done. But then he should have made sure he knew the law and not planted on my property.

This type of neighbour is like a dog p***ing on lampposts to mark out territory (except he does it to the neighbours property too), no concept of boundaries or of peoples own space.

He does it with parking too amongst other things, his feelings of inadequacy quite clear in his frustrated actions.

14-09-2019 4:42pm

Ryan Disgusting Sludge wrote: »

My neighbour did this but unfortunately for his hedge he didn't quite measure and while some of its on the boundary line quite a bit of the hedge has been planted on my garden.

I can wait to let it grow a bit because I'll be gladly taking out anything that's on my property and it won't leave him with much when I'm done. But then he should have made sure he knew the law and not planted on my property.

This type of neighbour is like a dog p***ing on lampposts to mark out territory (except he does it to the neighbours property too), no concept of boundaries or of peoples own space.

He does it with parking too amongst other things, his feelings of inadequacy quite clear in his frustrated actions.

Disturbing. I hope he doesn’t have any pet bunny wabbits.

GrumpyMe · 14-09-2019 5:20pm

Dav010 wrote: »

Considering it’s planted there, I would take that as a given.

Considering it is now partially in the neighbours garden it seems the OP has failed to keep to what was agreed.

the_syco · 14-09-2019 5:29pm

Dav010 wrote: »

According to the op, bushes were planted 15 yrs ago with agreement of neighbour. It helps to read the thread.

Meh, I'm not reading the last 4 pages. But my argument still stands.

They are are engaged in a "tit for tat" engagement, and they are the uncivilised neighbour who has grown bushes that are overtaking the neighbours garden.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 14-09-2019 7:39pm

Dav010 wrote: »

Disturbing. I hope he doesn’t have any pet bunny wabbits.

No it's not disturbing, (I quite like the little furries though, they are better behaved than some folk) disturbing is planting a hedge in your neighbours garden just to be passive aggressive (which is exactly what my neighbour has done).

BobMc · 18-09-2019 9:43am

Came across this thread and out of interest my wife and I had only been discussing our neighbours Griselinia last week,
Saturday morning I hear them with a contractor cutting said hedge when door bell rings, It was the contractor apologising
about when cutting the top and the trimmings had fallen in our side and did we mind he'd been on our property to collect,
No bother I say, what about my side are you triming it? "Umm No" does he normally he asks?
Well Yes I say its not my hedge !

In fairness he gave it a light trim and collected the trimmings even came back to ask was it ok, It was only OK, I would have cut it back more.

So it appears its my responsibility going forward, a mate will be out soon (landscaper), he suggested when frost sets in and I'm going to butcher the shiite out of it to my fence line. To be honest I'm not too impressed, we're just friendly neighbours hello etc etc. but I guess these hedge issues are a big problem all over.

As it happens good few houses in our cul de sac have them - We've red robin, and I've watched them trimming and they all take care of both sides of what they own

Am I responsible for cutting the hedge on my Neighbour’s side

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