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DC Animated Universe, where to start?

  • 17-08-2016 2:27pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭


    Hi all, wondering if you could point me in the right direction. I'm gonna start watching all of the DC Animated Universe shows from the 90s to I guess now(?), watched them a little back then but kinda forgot about them. I'm wondering where should I start?

    There are a few lists around the Internet but they seem to contradict each other. What way would you all advice to watch them?

    Thanks!


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Hi all, wondering if you could point me in the right direction. I'm gonna start watching all of the DC Animated Universe shows from the 90s to I guess now(?), watched them a little back then but kinda forgot about them. I'm wondering where should I start?

    There are a few lists around the Internet but they seem to contradict each other. What way would you all advice to watch them?

    Thanks!

    The best Batman film ever made is a good place to start, it's called Mask of the Phantasm. There's no real watching order to the animated movies though so just watch whichever you like.

    Green Lantern: First Flight, Justice Leage:Doom, All Star Superman are good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Batman: The Animated Series


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭readyletsgo


    Batman: The Animated Series

    Yeah that seems to be the place to start. I'll get stuck in so, thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Batman: The Animated Series
    Superman: The Animated Series
    New Batman Adventures (marketed in Europe as seasons 4-5 of Batman TAS)
    Justice League
    Justice League Unlimited

    For the movies, there's no real order. They're mostly standalone. The best quality ones come before "The Flashpoint Paradox" imo. Some good ones already mentioned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Young Justice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Another vote here for Batman: The Animated Series. What a great show.

    Also I don't know if I'm alone in this but I remember liking the animated film on Wonder Woman that came out a good few years ago. It had Keri Russell from The Americans doing the voice acting. I'd suggest checking it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Another vote here for Batman: The Animated Series. What a great show.

    Also I don't know if I'm alone in this but I remember liking the animated film on Wonder Woman that came out a good few years ago. It had Keri Russell from The Americans doing the voice acting. I'd suggest checking it out.

    You're not alone there. I've watched it a few times and it's fantastic. It's annoying that it never got a follow up. Also annoying that the Green Lantern: First Flight movie was followed by the tepid Emerald Knights.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Slydice wrote: »
    Young Justice.

    Young Justice is out of continuity with the above but it's well worth the watch. Criminally cut short.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Nervous Wrek has the proper order. Include Young Justice too. As for the movies: Any order really but avoid The Killing Joke (Much as it pains me to say)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    Justice League Dark is another solid entry.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭the baby bull elephant


    There is a current continuity for the movies following 'Flashpoint Paradox' in the New 52 style.

    Justice League: War
    Son of Batman
    JL: Throne of Atlantis
    Batman vs Robin
    Batman Bad Blood
    JL vs Teen Titans
    JL Dark
    And the upcoming Teen Titans: The Judas Contract

    Of course don't discount the previous movies mentioned as most of them are better than a lot of the current continuity.

    Young Justice has also had as 3rd season announced since this thread was started and is really worth watching.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    Justice League Dark is another solid entry.
    I see justice league dark had Constantine voiced by the guy from the canceled TV series.. Matt something..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Constantine is being rebooted as a cartoon web series on the CW Seed now with Matt Ryan voicing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    I watched Justice League: War last night... Impressive. Better than I thought it would be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    I watched Justice League: War last night... Impressive. Better than I thought it would be.

    I'm pretty sure that mostly follows the story of the first 5-7 issues of new52 justice league, if that strikes your fancy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    No love for Batman under the red hood?

    Also I enjoyed the dark knight returns part 1 and 2.

    Batman beyond return of the joker. (you might want to watch some of the batman beyond show first)

    The killing joke isn't bad once you get beyond the opening 20 minutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Under the Red Hood is great.

    I didn't like TDKR that much cos I felt it misfired some of the great moments and I really didn't like the voice acting for Batman.

    Return of the Joker is probably my second favourite of the whole catalogue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Constantine is being rebooted as a cartoon web series on the CW Seed now with Matt Ryan voicing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Christian Slater as Deadshot!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Amusing! I'll allow it! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    5 Minutes from Comic Con seems a bit much.. but recap and trailer in it:


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    I watch them in order of what year there made thats series and movies, just looked at the trailer of "The Death of Superman" isn't that a rehash of Superman Doomsday from 2007, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0934706/


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭the baby bull elephant


    Slydice wrote: »
    5 Minutes from Comic Con seems a bit much.. but recap and trailer in it:

    Can’t wait for it, has a release date been given yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Sometime in early 2019 but it's a strange one. DC are launching their own streaming service .. which looks like it might be USA only.. and this will probably release on it.

    (yeah, just DC shows.. good luck with that DC)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭the baby bull elephant


    Slydice wrote: »
    Sometime in early 2019 but it's a strange one. DC are launching their own streaming service .. which looks like it might be USA only.. and this will probably release on it.

    (yeah, just DC shows.. good luck with that DC)

    Yeah the service is going to be US only it will have comics and movies as well though so interesting to see how it works out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Four new DC animated movies will be released on home video for 2019.

    Batman: Hush
    Justice League vs The Fatal Five
    The Reign of The Supermen
    Wonder Woman: Bloodlines

    https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2018/07/dc-announces-2019-animated-movie-slate-including-batman-hush-and-wonder-woman-bloodlines/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Slydice wrote: »
    Amusing! I'll allow it! :)

    Ouch... avoid


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    I mean that's exactly what the trailers looked like they were selling, a really dumb kids movie. Don't think I'll ever bother to watch as it's just not in my interest area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Might be shes invested in the Teen Titans. I haven't seen those.

    I might end up watching the film anyway cos the trailer jokes were funny and it sounds like there was more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    Yeah to be fair I never watched the show. I heard it was good from someone who did but I never found the time.

    Funny enough the person who said the show was good, absolutely hated the trailers for this so it might have been the different style.

    Either way I won't be checking it out. Can't say I'm surprised that it turned out bad (at least to adults) or that rotten tomatoes have it as fresh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Bob on the case. Says it is funny. Mostly aimed to young kids. Likely fans of previous incarnations before "Go" may be upset.

    Sounds like what we were guessing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    I wouldn't take much notice of movieBob's opinion.

    Taken from reddit user calvinien, I think this sums him up pretty well.
    Imagine the worst parts of nerddom boiled into one person. Imagine the worst excesses of both ends of the political spectrum existing simultaneously in one person. That is moviebob.

    Short version: he's the humanoid personification of every toxic nerd/toxic fan cliche in the books, wrapped up in a southie accent and a boatload of hypocrisy.

    Long version from an ex fan:

    He's an internet pundit who largely attaches himself to popular ideas and acts as though he was their originator. He blasts people he does not like as douchebros while insulting and belittling anyone who thinks different from him.

    Notable for:

    -openly holding a grudge against people who game on things other than nintendo, because 'these are the kids who used to beat us up and steal our lunch money. They don't deserve this hobby'

    -taking positions based entirely on how they fit his biases even if they were mutually exclusive. For instance he simultaneously defends the atrocious sexism of Metroid other M (for non gamers, metroid is a series about a badass female bounty hunter. Other M made her into a cringing weak willed wreck dependent on male characters to save her and being obsessed with babies.) while also positioning himself alongside Anita Sarkeesian. You can't be anti sexist while also defending sexist. He's all about demonizing modern non nintendo gamers as sexists because of the above....but nintendo is always exempt. Also he compared halo fans to white supremacists.

    - When Sony was rebooting spider-man, not only did he keep insisting that SM3 was good and we were all too stupid to get it, he waged a one man vendetta against Amazing spider-man. He bitched about Gwen being played by a redhead (she wasn't.) but then bitched that casting Martin Sheen as uncle ben was too obvious. He complained about the lack of biological web shooters an that spiderman quipped too much. Also he kept trying to draw comparisons between it and transformers, his previous bete noir. When the film came out (all of this whinging was before it even released) he quickly spun tales of gratuitous shaky cam, lens flares and a generic nazi style villain. None of which are in the film.

    Fun fact: he was also totally all over Zack Snyder for 300, sucker punch and watchmen. He LOVED him some zack snyder, but changed his opinion overnight when it became impolitic. He was all over Man of steel in previews but then it became uncool to like DC so he dropped it like a ton of bricks.

    With the possible exception of dave rubin, I think he's the internet celeb that I loathe the absolute most.

    And here's another good description from HEAVEN_OR_HECK
    If you track Bob Chipman's career and output, you will see that he experimented with several shades of punditry before settling on his current attention-grabbing mode. The persona/strategy he currently espouses and embodies online happens to put less emphasis on available fact. He is low-hanging fruit to dispel in the eyes of any fact-driven observer, but perhaps this was worthwhile given how many fans take Chipman's content as bias-confirming gospel.

    But you don't have to take the word of others, here he is having an argument with fans online telling them that the Snyder cut of Justice League doesn't exist. When he gets called out by someone who worked on the film he goes into attack mode and once that fails he plays the victim.



    Seriously, MovieBob isn't worth your time. There's so many decent reviewers on YouTube that put genuine time and thought into their content. Don't reward this guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I must admit, I'm looking forward to checking our Teen Titans Go this weekend. I think the series is hilarious.

    However I get why people don't like it. I also liked the original TT animated series: I liked that it was a continuation of the DCAU, I liked the vaguely serialised nature of the stories. Often going over many episodes.

    However I also love the new series. It's not going to damage the DCAU :) It's just a total goof. And what's wrong with that? There are enough winks and nods to the DCAU that you get a laugh. (When they meet the Young Justice crew and try to get all serious. Or Robin dreaming in the style of Teen Titans). I'll take something different over doing the now-typical DC Movie style. I mean, look at the trailers/footage we have seen of the "edgier" Teen Titans..... OOOOOhhhhhhhh. They drop the Teen and say things like "F*ck Batman". C'mon guys. Have ye learned NOTHING from the recent DC movies? Nothing?


    Nerd fandom can be especially toxic and resistant to chaaaaaaaange. We all are that way to a point (I never like the guest voices of Batman when they do their story adaptations in the animated movies. For me, the voice of Batman/Joker is Conroy/Hamill). And I'm not saying that's happening in this thread at all. This thread is a pleasant to-and-fro debate. But we've all seen it: Most recently the new Batwoman actor being trolled because she is not gay (She is). Anyway, back on topic.....

    I'm looking forward to this (Including Will Arnett as Slade and Nicholas Cage as SUPERMAN!!!!! That's a better fourth wall joke than ANY in Deadpool). Plus,
    thankfully we are getting the amazing Young Justice back (Cannot... wait).
    Give me TTG over Not-teen Titans any day


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    On the guest voices thing I really liked Bruce Greenwood's Batman and Jensen Ackles as Jason Todd in under the red hood. Soon there will be a day where Conroy and Hamill won't be able to do the films so can't be that way forever.

    I agree with the whole resistant to change thing. It can be very difficult to try new stuff without backlash, but I suppose that is the side effect of having characters that are loved by many.

    These "fandoms" can have a difficult mentality to understand at times, but it is usually just a small section making the most noise all the same.

    Like Teen titans go is something I'm not in the slightest bit interested in ( I may have already said :pac: ) but I don't think it shouldn't have been made. There is obviously an audience for it, I'm just not it. Same with the Batman 66 animated movie released a couple of years ago, its someone's cup of tea but not mine. My bad movie could be someone else's great.

    Unfortunately there are more than a few "content creators" out there who have basically made a career out of feeding into that mentality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    On the guest voices thing I really liked Bruce Greenwood's Batman and Jensen Ackles as Jason Todd in under the red hood. Soon there will be a day where Conroy and Hamill won't be able to do the films so can't be that way forever.

    Jason O'Mara was quite good in a few of the recent Justice League animated movies, as Batman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Well that was hilarious.... IF YOU LIKED THE SERIES. If you didn't then it may not be for you.

    I thoroughly enjoyed that. It was stupid, childish with scattershot jokes and many many catchy musical numbers..... Just like the series really.

    I was surprised how many digs they got in about Marvel properties: Spoilers.... Seriously...
    Right from the start with the Marvelesque logo joke to the extended Stan Lee cameo. The constant reference to Deadpool, Guardians of The Galaxy and on and on

    The montage of the Titan's solution to getting their own movie is actually quite shocking... In a kid's show way. Deadpool movie actually considered something similar but cut it as too harsh.

    And the last line of the movie.... before the... spoiler.... bonus credit sequence.. totally came out of nowhere. :)

    Your mileage will seriously depend on if you like the series but they do get in jokes about the current state of the DC cinematic universe, the TV universe.

    There were a load of families there with noisy kids which was good (I hate noise in the cinema like everyone else but not at kids movies. I'm the one who is out of place at these screenings and have to respect that. Kids are supposed to be laughing and pointing and shouting at the screen, having fun :) ). The parents seemed to be having just as much fun as the kids who were bopping about with the tunes and shouting at the screen.

    So, if you like the series, go to it. Make it a success. If not, then wait for it to be on DVD/Netflix/wherever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    What if you haven't seen either? I'm guessing it's a funny film for most audiences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Ah yeah. If you like your humour slapstick and pretty inane :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Young Justice season 3 on premieres 04 January. Teaser on youtube:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I watched the The Death of Superman on Blu-ray on Monday. I thought the story was really good.
    It is a near interpretation of Superman's battle with Doomsday made with the new 52 animation. A certain proportion of DC fans may be turned off with the new 52 animation style that is littered all across this movie. It doesn't turn me off whatsoever as the story beats all of it down with it's superior quality. All of the JLA are included in this movie to give it a nice twist. There are really good credit scenes in there too as soon as they start rolling at the end for the next movie The Reign of The Supermen.

    Release dates for The Reign of The Supermen are as follows.

    Digital Download - 15th of January 2019

    UHD Blu-ray/Blu-ray & DVD - 29th January 2019


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I was never really gone on the whole animated movie adaptations. I tend not to like the voice casting and character design. I understand the logic behind them: These are NOT continuations of TAS universe. These are standalone adaptations. And it makes sense and is a good idea. They just never did it for me. (I did enjoy 2009's Wonder Woman: "Mr President, the threat has been neutralised" "How?" "By a bunch of.... armoured supermodels" Hah)

    That was why I couldn't wait for "The Killing Joke". Conroy and Hamill doing the voicing? Brilliant. The Killing Joke? Amazing (I know there is debate about the treatment of Barbara Gordon but, for me, this is missing the point. It was MEANT to be brutal and shocking and uncomfortable. This was not The Clown Prince of Crime. This was a sociopath. Anyway, another conversation)

    And then the movie came out...........

    I also find the latest season of "Young Justice" to be unfocused and not as engaging as previous seasons. It has spent too many episodes introducing the next generation of new characters who are all pretty bland. And only recently started kicking into the arc in a big way (20+ episodes in).

    I say DC need to do an animated series of "No Man's Land". You could hop around to all the different characters. They could get 3 or 4 seasons out of that easily. Apparently they were looking into it in the early 2000s but dropped it as being "too dark". Ironic given the direction they have pushed their movies/TV shows. I'm watching Titans on Netflix and it's hilarious how "dark and moody" it is :D "F*ck Batman. lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I knew of the existance of this story but I don't know the backstory. I hope they've included some of the backstory (like the childhood for example)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    One shot of Shazam! and I'm wanting another Shazam! film soon!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Slydice wrote: »
    One shot of Shazam! and I'm wanting another Shazam! film soon!


    I rented this last night and it was very good, and actually quite emotional at times.

    A worthy end to the DCAU. Whatever they're planning for the new animated world on HBOMax I do hope they go back to basics a bit as I still can't get used to blood thirsty Superman that they've depicted in the last could of new 52 inspired features.


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