Handwriting decipher thread must post link to full page

hblock21 · 13-09-2018 5:53pm

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625669/004625669_00415.pdf
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625669/004625669_00431.pdf
Can anyone tell me what is the word after "John O' Neill". Very first line.
looks like it ends in ...ner
I just cannot make it out.
Thanks

Vetch · 13-09-2018 6:35pm

BigCon wrote: »

Any ideas for this one?

First entry on the page - https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634795#page/194/mode/1up

Michael of Michael Connors and Bridget Mahon (?)
Sponsors Mary Corban and Thomas Tuite

Vetch · 13-09-2018 6:38pm

hblock21 wrote: »

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625669/004625669_00415.pdf
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625669/004625669_00431.pdf
Can anyone tell me what is the word after "John O' Neill". Very first line.
looks like it ends in ...ner
I just cannot make it out.
Thanks

& Partners

Jellybaby1 · 13-09-2018 6:39pm

Vetch wrote: »

Michael of Michael Connors and Bridget Mahon (?)
Sponsors Mary Corban and Thomas Tuite

I tried, and couldn't. Very impressed!

hblock21 · 13-09-2018 8:04pm

Vetch wrote: »

hblock21 wrote: »

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625669/004625669_00415.pdf
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625669/004625669_00431.pdf
Can anyone tell me what is the word after "John O' Neill". Very first line.
looks like it ends in ...ner
I just cannot make it out.
Thanks

& Partners

Thank you.
I've never come across that before.

Vetch · 15-09-2018 5:20pm

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

I tried, and couldn't. Very impressed!

You're very kind but it could be wrong! It's a guess to get it started anyway.

I only noticed after posting that the second entry on the page seems to be for a twin of the first?

spurious · 15-09-2018 7:25pm

Rootsireland has it as

Michael Connors of John Connors and Bridget Walsh
Sp. May Corban Tedy Quirk

Grennston

and then
Judy Connors of John Connors (mother not recorded)
Sp. Teady Quirk and Judy Ryan

Grennstown

montgo · 23-09-2018 7:09pm

Hi,
Record No. 362, I am wondering what the cause of death for William McGrath? Acute ....... Thanks.

VirginiaB · 24-09-2018 3:43pm

Can anyone read the age of the deceased on this death record from irishgenealogy.ie? Their transcription says 69 but it looks more like 89 to me. But frankly it doesn't really look like either 6 or 8, especially comparing it with the 8 in the 1872 date handwritten on far left and far right of record. Thanks.

Hermy · 24-09-2018 3:54pm

spurious · 24-09-2018 6:06pm

montgo wrote: »

Hi,
Record No. 362, I am wondering what the cause of death for William McGrath? Acute ....... Thanks.

Gosh what dreadful writing.
Acute something. Could be an M at the start, but I think it's an N.
Could the next line be Sudden paralysis?

VirginiaB · 24-09-2018 6:18pm

Thanks for that, Hermy. But if it's 8, it looks so different from the other two 8's on the record. And it matters as there are several of the name.

Hermy · 24-09-2018 7:46pm

I agree, it does look different but I've often seen 8 written like that before.

spurious · 24-09-2018 8:18pm

Agree on the 8, sometimes they are even what looks to us like sideways.

montgo · 25-09-2018 9:29am

spurious wrote: »

Gosh what dreadful writing.
Acute something. Could be an M at the start, but I think it's an N.
Could the next line be Sudden paralysis?

Agree that the writing is very difficult to read, I can't even decipher the Registrar's own name. Sudden paralysis looks about right. William's age was a bit awry but has a correction on the margin! Many thanks.

laoisman11 · 28-09-2018 8:58pm

This is a much more recent one compared to many put up here, but would someone be so kind as to decipher what is written in brackets after "Uimh 4"?

The birth was registered as the National Maternity Hospital.

Thanks in advance!

New Home · 28-09-2018 9:15pm

Deis?

spurious · 28-09-2018 10:23pm

DUB?

Jellybaby1 · 29-09-2018 5:29pm

Deis or Deo?

BowWow · 29-09-2018 5:46pm

Given the bit on front of the brackets is Irish "Uimh 4", we could assume the bit between the brackets is also in Irish?

spurious · 29-09-2018 5:54pm

AFAIK Holles Street is District Number 4 in South Dublin on certs in English, so it should be something like that.

BowWow · 29-09-2018 6:08pm

Just a Guess...

"Deas" = "South"

Seeing more of the page might help with handwriting.

DamoRed · 30-09-2018 1:26pm

This is another example of why more of the original page needs to be seen, not, in this case, for writing comparison, as it's legible enough, but context. The word in question appears to be 'Deis' but is that short for 'deisceart' as referred to above? What are the places named on individual birth entries and what range of area do they cover??

pinkypinky · 30-09-2018 3:23pm

Well, I am always saying it: please post the full page.

laoisman11 · 01-10-2018 2:22pm

pinkypinky wrote: »

Well, I am always saying it: please post the full page.

Apologies, I was not aware of the need to post the full page, I should have checked this out on the forum.

The birth cert is my own birth cert which I need to get translated and for this reason, I do not feel comfortable posting it in its entirety. The phrase in the image is repeated again further down in the birth cert and appears almost identical.

Thanks to all for your assistance, Deis as an abbreviation of Deisceart would appear to be the most logical answer.

Caxton · 04-10-2018 3:48pm

I'd appreciate any help with interpreting this baptism entry and could it refer to twins?

I read it as 'Dec 6th. Fanny & ???? Dan Carty & Margaret Delany'.

Here's the link to the original image.

Thanks

New Home · 04-10-2018 3:49pm

Bridget?

BigCon · 04-10-2018 3:51pm

Bridget

Caxton · 04-10-2018 4:03pm

Thanks guys, Bridget look good.

tabbey · 04-10-2018 9:40pm

Caxton wrote: »

could it refer to twins?

If it was, there should be two pairs of sponsors.

New Home · 04-10-2018 11:26pm

Can't the sponsors be the same for both?

Caxton · 04-10-2018 11:35pm

As I understand, there is no requirement for two pairs of sponsors, under Canon Law. It probably comes down to local 'Custom & Practise'.

Meursault · 08-10-2018 4:45pm

Silly question here, but how you paste something in to your message? I am trying to work out a signature, but I am not sure how to paste the screen shot in to a comment!

Thanks

pinkypinky · 08-10-2018 5:21pm

If you go to "advanced" you get a page where you can attach a jpg.

But the link and details of which part of the page is just as good. And please put the link either way.

oceanclub · 09-10-2018 12:38am

Hi all,

Looking for help with this:

(from https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/3d021b2067666)

I think it's:

28 August, St Kevin's Hospital
John Finn, late of 8 Magennis Place
Married, 55 years
labourer
??? ??? cardiac ??? ???
??? Occupier St Kevin's Hospital
28 August

New Home · 09-10-2018 12:42am

Urethral stricture
Cardiac failure
Certified

pinkypinky · 09-10-2018 9:36am

Shocking handwriting!

Meursault · 09-10-2018 11:47am

Thanks for the help. Here is the name i am having trouble with. I cannot make out the first name. Is it Abina?

Name.JPG

pinkypinky · 09-10-2018 11:50am

Please post the link to the whole page as requested above multiple times!

Meursault · 09-10-2018 1:23pm

pinkypinky wrote: »

Please post the link to the whole page as requested above multiple times!

Is this what you mean?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03389/2242703.pdf

Name.JPG

09-10-2018 1:25pm

Alma?

Meursault · 09-10-2018 1:35pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Alma?

I can see where you would get that Shifty, but there would appear to be an additional letter in between the l and m? I was thinking the last three letters are ina? First letter looks like a capital A?

Hermy · 09-10-2018 1:36pm

Meursault wrote: »

Is this what you mean?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03389/2242703.pdf

Name.JPG

That's it. Giving a link to the source, or a description of the document if it's not available online, allows other users to see the full document in its proper context which makes the job of figuring out hard to read items much easier.

Hermy · 09-10-2018 1:40pm

Looks like Abina to me.

Hermy · 09-10-2018 1:48pm

This look like another daughter born to the same couple but while the mother is Abina on the baptismal record she is Abigail on the civil record.

EDIT: Baptism is Oct 14th - about half way down the right hand page.

Meursault · 09-10-2018 1:57pm

Hermy wrote: »

This look like another daughter born to the same couple but while the mother is Abina on the baptismal record she is Abigail on the civil record.

EDIT: Baptism is Oct 14th - about half way down the right hand page.

Excellent work, same address, parents, etc. It must be Abigail, with "Abina" a colloquial version of the name.

Thanks for looking in to this guys.

Hermy · 09-10-2018 7:33pm

I hadn't come across Abina myself before but there are over 700 examples of the name in the 1911 census.

VirginiaB · 09-10-2018 8:23pm

I've never neard this name before so did some poking around on the internet. There is a Rootschat thread that says it is an Anglicized version of Gobnait, a medieval Irish saint, and that the name is mostly found in Co Cork where the record under discussion here is from. For what it's worth.

Just searched the 1911 census myself--774 named Abina. Rough estimate--700 in Co Cork. Interesting.

spurious · 09-10-2018 9:19pm

I was at college with an Abina from Cork. She told me the Irish for it was Gobnait. I always thought Gobnait was a made up 'comedy' name. Likewise Ballydehob. College taught me a few things.

Hermy · 09-10-2018 10:46pm

spurious wrote: »

I always thought Gobnait was a made up 'comedy' name.

Frank Kelly's Gobnait O'Lunacy?

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