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boosted board or similar in ireland?

  • 29-06-2017 9:14pm
    #1
    jogdish
    Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭


    Anyone know where to try out, and perhaps buy an electric skate board in Ireland?

    Anyone with any experience of them?


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  • #2
    tdmoran
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭tdmoran


    Hi, after a year of waiting my boosted board arrived day before yesterday. Not cheap but worth every penny. Great for flying around Dublin. I've done 50km already and am addicted. Can't recommend it higher.
    jogdish wrote: »
    Anyone know where to try out, and perhaps buy an electric skate board in Ireland?

    Anyone with any experience of them?


  • #3
    jogdish
    Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    Where did you buy from, import charges? Is there anyway to try one before you buy in ireland?


  • #4
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,490 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Realise that you need type approval, driving licence, insurance and NCT if used in a public place. You need motor tax, but likely at the zero rate.


  • #5
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    There are several "e-bikes" around that also count as "motor powered vehicles" and thus the full legislation but the gardai will never enforce it, they cant even manage red lights or bus lanes. Same goes for electric scooters and one wheels.


  • #6
    Tickityboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Tickityboo


    ED E wrote: »
    There are several "e-bikes" around that also count as "motor powered vehicles" and thus the full legislation but the gardai will never enforce it, they cant even manage red lights or bus lanes. Same goes for electric scooters and one wheels.

    All of the rickshaws that are breaking every traffic law in Dublin now have electric motors and I'm pretty sure they're not insured or taxed!!

    How are they getting away with this? Considering they are carrying passengers.


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  • #7
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    there's a subtle difference here - a rickshaw with an electric motor which needs to be pedalled to run (i.e. the motor boosts the pedalling) is a different beast legally from one which does not need to be pedalled - one which does not need to be pedalled is considered a motorised vehicle and falls under normal motorised vehicle law. ones which do need to be pedalled but cannot exceed 25km/h are basically considered e-bikes, AFAIK, and are not legally regulated.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/nta-laws-to-regulate-rickshaws-are-unworkable-445559.html


  • #8
    StereoSound
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭StereoSound


    tdmoran wrote: »
    Hi, after a year of waiting my boosted board arrived day before yesterday. Not cheap but worth every penny. Great for flying around Dublin. I've done 50km already and am addicted. Can't recommend it higher.

    Are you still ripping around Dublin on this? Any hassle from the Gardai? I looked into buying one of these summer 2016 but I chickened out because I was concerned about it falling under "mechanically propelled vehicle" regulation and getting it taken off me.


  • #9
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    StereoSound wrote: »
    Are you still ripping around Dublin on this? Any hassle from the Gardai? I looked into buying one of these summer 2016 but I chickened out because I was concerned about it falling under "mechanically propelled vehicle" regulation and getting it taken off me.

    Losing the board is the least of your worries, the fines you'd be hit with would be 2x as much.


  • #10
    Mikecondon93
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭Mikecondon93


    jogdish wrote: »
    Anyone know where to try out, and perhaps buy an electric skate board in Ireland?

    Anyone with any experience of them?

    So I just got the board. You can't buy it in ireland and to actually but the 2nd gen dual plus it costs 2000dollars including 370dollar vat.

    I enjoy using it in parks to get use to it. If you get it don't try out the max speed as your balance won't be great even if you are pro. I fell at max speed in a park so eco mode is what everyone uses which is like 16-19km per hour.

    It's a great board and reliable compared to a lot of other boards.


  • #11
    Mikecondon93
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭Mikecondon93


    Victor wrote: »
    Realise that you need type approval, driving licence, insurance and NCT if used in a public place. You need motor tax, but likely at the zero rate.

    Since when. Top speed is 26km per hour and bikes can get up to that speed and you don't need any sort of licence


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  • #12
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Bicycle that you need to pedal (or scooter you need to scoot) comes under a different law.

    http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=1728&Lang=1
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057659176

    There are scooters that are only assisted. Not sure if this would be an example
    https://www.microkickboard.com/emicro-folding-electric-scooter


  • #13
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    anybody know what the legal situation is regarding the use of uniwheels in ireland? Presumably they are not allowed use cycle lanes?

    Aweek-Electric-Unicycle-Uni-Wheel-Solowheel-Self-balancing-Electric-Unicycle-Scooter-Monotroch-Single-wheel-electric-vehicles-Black-0-3.jpg


  • #14
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Same as above. Self powered so only legal on private property. In public place only with insurance and road tax.


  • #15
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,490 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Mikecondon93 wrote: »
    Since when. Top speed is 26km per hour and bikes can get up to that speed and you don't need any sort of licence
    At least the Road Traffic Act 1961, possibly the 1930s equivalent or earlier.


  • #16
    jonniepster
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭jonniepster


    Yep I spent a day on one in LA. Awesome buzz. Gonna get one. Expensive but worth it.


  • #17
    Sebatron3
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Sebatron3


    My Boosted board arrived from the Netherlands 2 weeks ago, to say that I was excited was an understatement, best purchase ever next to my MacBook! I had a nice few spins on it but its been so wet I haven’t had a proper go of it. Although I considered this before buying the board, I rationalized by saying I could spend the same price on a snowboard holiday and not get as much boarding done, I just need some dry days now! The only thing now is that I’ve a few weeks work abroad and I know I’ll get lots of miles in if I bring my board - I just want to know if anyone has any experience traveling with an electric board through European flights? There’s a sticker on the card-board case saying to keep the box for travelling and which also provides the lithium battery info. Is it going to cost a fortune? Just thought I’d ask first here if anyone has any experience first hand.


  • #18
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Sebatron3 wrote: »
    My Boosted board arrived from the Netherlands 2 weeks ago, to say that I was excited was an understatement, best purchase ever next to my MacBook! I had a nice few spins on it but its been so wet I haven’t had a proper go of it. Although I considered this before buying the board, I rationalized by saying I could spend the same price on a snowboard holiday and not get as much boarding done, I just need some dry days now! The only thing now is that I’ve a few weeks work abroad and I know I’ll get lots of miles in if I bring my board - I just want to know if anyone has any experience traveling with an electric board through European flights? There’s a sticker on the card-board case saying to keep the box for travelling and which also provides the lithium battery info. Is it going to cost a fortune? Just thought I’d ask first here if anyone has any experience first hand.

    Search Casey Neistat on Youtube. He brings his on 20+ flights a year.


  • #19
    Sebatron3
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Sebatron3


    ED E wrote: »
    Search Casey Neistat on Youtube. He brings his on 20+ flights a year.

    Ya fair enough, he’s always travelling, but he mostly brings his short board as his boosted board is so big. I’m not flying in and out of the states either, just within Europe.


  • #20
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Sebatron3 wrote: »
    Ya fair enough, he’s always travelling, but he mostly brings his short board as his boosted board is so big. I’m not flying in and out of the states either, just within Europe.

    He brings his boosted board too, usually checks it though.


  • #21
    jogdish
    Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭jogdish


    January wrote: »
    He brings his boosted board too, usually checks it though.

    He also flys first class and I'm guessing is not short of endless cash :p


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  • #22
    BowSideChamp
    Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭BowSideChamp


    beauf wrote: »
    Same as above. Self powered so only legal on private property. In public place only with insurance and road tax.

    Imagine, you could be done for no tax or insurance and be banned from driving & possibly jailed for riding a skateboard :D


  • #23
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Its more about how it can be misused.


  • #24
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    BowSideChamp wrote: »
    Imagine, you could be done for no tax or insurance and be banned from driving & possibly jailed for riding a skateboard :D

    If it's classified as a motorised vehicle it's not a stake board. Just like a lot of people on the 2 stroke bicycles will be complaining about getting done on them and getting banned, if the Gardaí ever bothered to enforce our laws.


  • #25
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Del2005 wrote: »
    If it's classified as a motorised vehicle it's not a stake board. Just like a lot of people on the 2 stroke bicycles will be complaining about getting done on them and getting banned, if the Gardaver bothered to enforce our laws.

    TBF, they have done a couple of the lawnmower mods.

    I know a local one that I might highlight to the local AGS if they ever leave the station.


  • #26
    connundrum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    https://youtu.be/MnE-tp-pPJ8

    Apparently it’s all cool re tax and insurance - I’d still probably seek my own verification for cops sake, or walk into local cop shop and ask one of them to be a reference.

    45mph/kph seems to be the cut off point?!


  • #27
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's a ten minute long video; what does he cite to support the claim that 45mph is allowed?


  • #28
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Fake news...


  • #29
    Sebatron3
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Sebatron3


    The Gardai in Cork are fairly relaxed so far. I've done 140 miles on it since I got my Boosted in January. I think theres a grey area around electronic skateboards and scooters etc. regarding road use. As long as you're careful and don't do the bollux they'll leave you alone (in Cork anyway). I imagine this will change as these things get more popular and cheaper and theres more people on the road.


  • #30
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Sebatron3 wrote: »
    The Gardai in Cork are fairly relaxed so far. I've done 140 miles on it since I got my Boosted in January. I think theres a grey area around electronic skateboards and scooters etc. regarding road use. As long as you're careful and don't do the bollux they'll leave you alone (in Cork anyway). I imagine this will change as these things get more popular and cheaper and theres more people on the road.

    There's zero gray area they are illegal unless taxed and insured and you are wearing a helmet and have a licence, as they are classed as powered two wheelers, the problem is that we have zero enforcement of most of our laws so this is ignored. What will happen is some poor person will get seriously injured by one and then the sh1t will hit the fan.


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  • #31
    robnet77
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭robnet77


    If one builds their own custom board, wouldn't it be possible to tweak it so that it requires an initial push by foot?

    This would allow the board not to be considered a motorised vehicle, I guess?


  • #32
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    robnet77 wrote: »
    If one builds their own custom board, wouldn't it be possible to tweak it so that it requires an initial push by foot?

    This would allow the board not to be considered a motorised vehicle, I guess?

    If the board keeps going without your effort then no.

    Cops aren't interested anyway. Does it really matter.


  • #33
    robnet77
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭robnet77


    beauf wrote: »
    If the board keeps going without your effort then no.

    Cops aren't interested anyway. Does it really matter.

    I'm not sure you are right on this.

    Anyway, the gardai may not care today, but what if an accident occurs? One thing is that insurance is not required, a whole different story if it turns out one was riding without a mandatory insurance.


  • #34
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    There's been a few previous threads on it.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107326237&postcount=85
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107137998&postcount=93


  • #35
    loyatemu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,104 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    robnet77 wrote: »
    If one builds their own custom board, wouldn't it be possible to tweak it so that it requires an initial push by foot?

    This would allow the board not to be considered a motorised vehicle, I guess?

    the exemption applies specifically to eBikes only (and mobility scooters I guess) - other that that if it has a motor, it's a motor vehicle.


  • #36
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    beauf wrote: »
    Cops aren't interested anyway. Does it really matter.

    Until you hit somebody. Then the charges pile up.


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  • #37
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Check your home insurance too. Lots of house fires have been attributed to the exploding batteries in cheapo ones.


  • #38
    robnet77
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭robnet77


    loyatemu wrote: »
    the exemption applies specifically to eBikes only (and mobility scooters I guess) - other that that if it has a motor, it's a motor vehicle.

    About 10 years ago I bought an electric scooter in a Dublin shop.

    The law, back then, said that if a vehicle's max speed was up to 25 km/h, then it didn't require insurance.

    I wonder whether this exemption is still valid, as it would apply to many electric skateboards.


  • #39
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,490 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    robnet77 wrote: »
    The law, back then, said that if a vehicle's max speed was up to 25 km/h, then it didn't require insurance.
    This specifically refers to ped-elecs - electric pedal cycles with motor assistance. The motor stops if you stop pedalling.


  • #40
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,136 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Sebatron3 wrote: »
    The Gardai in Cork are fairly relaxed so far. I've done 140 miles on it since I got my Boosted in January. I think theres a grey area around electronic skateboards and scooters etc. regarding road use. As long as you're careful and don't do the bollux they'll leave you alone (in Cork anyway). I imagine this will change as these things get more popular and cheaper and theres more people on the road.

    There is no grey area. A lack of enforcement is not a grey area.


  • #41
    peaceboi
    Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭peaceboi


    Guys who already bought the boosted board, can you point out where to get them please? Preferably from the EU. Thanks


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  • #42
    robnet77
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭robnet77


    Victor wrote: »
    This specifically refers to ped-elecs - electric pedal cycles with motor assistance. The motor stops if you stop pedalling.

    It was an electric scooter which did not require pedalling.


    ...Anyway there is a video I saw on youtube a couple of days ago where the guy receives confirmation from the gardai that electric scooters are legal in Ireland, check it out!


  • #43
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    robnet77 wrote: »
    ...
    ...Anyway there is a video I saw on youtube a couple of days ago where the guy receives confirmation from the gardai that electric scooters are legal in Ireland, check it out!

    They are legal in Ireland just not on roads and paths.

    Good luck telling a Garda YouTube said it was ok.


  • #44
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    robnet77 wrote: »
    It was an electric scooter which did not require pedalling.


    ...Anyway there is a video I saw on youtube a couple of days ago where the guy receives confirmation from the gardai that electric scooters are legal in Ireland, check it out!

    The traffic corps (RPU now) have come out and made it clear, only legal to be used in private property. Otherwise its an undocumented mechanically propelled vehicle.


  • #45
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    robnet77 wrote: »
    Anyway there is a video I saw on youtube a couple of days ago
    it's a good thing videos on youtube now form the basis for irish law.


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