Overwatch (the second thread)

Dcully · 02-10-2019 1:25pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Classic quickplay is in arcade now, no role queue there.

Ah , i just clicked quickplay from main screen ie where it was last i played.

TitianGerm · 02-10-2019 1:30pm

Unit Lost has a new video up showing some Switch gameplay. There's actually an option for gyro aiming. Was that announced before?

fixXxer · 02-10-2019 1:54pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

Unit Lost has a new video up showing some Switch gameplay. There's actually an option for gyro aiming. Was that announced before?

It was sort of shown in the announcement trailer, steering Junkrats riptyre.

Canis Lupus · 02-10-2019 10:23pm

Dcully wrote: »

I havent played in about 18 months, i was planing to reinstall to see what the craic is but K.O.Kiki put a stop to that lol

I think the game is the least fun it's been in a while. I've stopped playing since Sigma went live.

Role queue times are poor for DPS, being locked into a role which I thought might be good is actually dreadfully frustrating and the meta is the absolute ABSOLUTE worst it's ever been.

Whilst it's nice to add freshness to the game with new characters I think Blizzard sometimes need to admit a certain character just isn't adding anything and rather than buff/nerf it/other characters to try and jimmy it in they just need to delete it. We're also at a tipping point where they can't keep adding characters, it's just a mess to balance now as it is from a competitive pov.

IvoryTower · 03-10-2019 9:05am

Of course they can keep adding characters!

They'll nerf sigma/orisa and then itll be onto the next "worst meta".

fixXxer · 03-10-2019 9:25am

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I think the game is the least fun it's been in a while. I've stopped playing since Sigma went live.

Role queue times are poor for DPS, being locked into a role which I thought might be good is actually dreadfully frustrating and the meta is the absolute ABSOLUTE worst it's ever been.

Whilst it's nice to add freshness to the game with new characters I think Blizzard sometimes need to admit a certain character just isn't adding anything and rather than buff/nerf it/other characters to try and jimmy it in they just need to delete it. We're also at a tipping point where they can't keep adding characters, it's just a mess to balance now as it is from a competitive pov.

Have you considered switching?

IvoryTower · 03-10-2019 9:45am

I tell you who could do with an oul nerfin, invincy-sym

IvoryTower · 03-10-2019 9:50am

If you're a hard stuck dps I recommend trying ana, zen, hammond, hog, dva(bit crap at moment), even Zarya. You can really feel like you're popping off with these characters, you'll often find yourself in the elims medals. If you're worried they're not meta and you're stuck in gold then give your head a wobble and start playing other characters, worry about the meta when you're ready to go pro

A Neurotic · 03-10-2019 9:54am

IvoryTower wrote: »

I tell you who could do with an oul nerfin, invincy-sym

She got one a week or two ago - her beam width went down. It's actually a very noticeable nerf when you play her.

fixXxer · 03-10-2019 9:55am

IvoryTower wrote: »

I tell you who could do with an oul nerfin, invincy-sym

Isn't there a nerf to come on the current PTR?

IvoryTower · 03-10-2019 9:56am

i hope so, i have more trouble with her than i would ten shields

Homelander · 04-10-2019 4:52am

Something very wrong with this game. I'm plat dps/support, but now in bronze tank. Despite getting gold dmg in 10 games in a row. Genuinely lost about 15 games in a row in tank queue. Not really sure how that works.

Canis Lupus · 04-10-2019 6:46am

fixxxer wrote: »

Have you considered switching?

I'm support main but I can play any role. I've just switched game instead. Shooting shields isn't any fun. I'll come back eventually and hopefully the devs will have come to their senses.

Canis Lupus · 04-10-2019 6:49am

Homelander wrote: »

Something very wrong with this game. I'm plat dps/support, but now in bronze tank. Despite getting gold dmg in 10 games in a row. Genuinely lost about 15 games in a row in tank queue. Not really sure how that works.

It's not just raw DMG that makes you a good tank.

IvoryTower · 04-10-2019 7:28am

Honestly if you could be bothered learning sigma you will likely climb. Hes op af at the moment

Homelander · 04-10-2019 9:45am

I was playing sigma. I'd say I got gold damage in 80% of matches. Obviously I know there's more to tank than damage, I have 1200 hours in the game. I'm starting to think there's something wrong with match making on my account. I'm constantly getting matches that are 300 sr above my level. I first noticed it playing support, a gap of 320sr between my team and the enemy. I didn't even think that was possible.

fixXxer · 04-10-2019 9:49am

The gap is around 1000 SR depending on conditions

Homelander · 04-10-2019 9:58am

fixxxer wrote: »

The gap is around 1000 SR depending on conditions

That's the gap between individual players not overall teams. I played a game last night where our team was hundreds lower and they had a platinum dps. That should not be happening. The team sr should be broadly similar taking into account the higher ranks. For some reason it never happens my team, only the opposing team.

IvoryTower · 04-10-2019 10:03am

Does it still show the the sr of teams before games, i thought they scraped that along with showing who's teamed up?

I think solo queuing is a lot harder now. It's like you're unknowingly up against stacks who are working together, in comms etc. The people climbing are those in 3+ stacks i reckon.

Homelander · 04-10-2019 10:13am

Yep, it does. Not sure about the stacks, don't think it does. I'm just really frustrated because the wild difference in sr only happens to my team, the enemy team is never hundreds lower for some reason. I literally went from 1800 to 1480 in a row, but even the last game the enemy team was 1797 while ours was pretty much 1530 or something. The last support game I played was the same, enemy team was 300 higher, even though we won I only got the basic sr for the win. It never happens in reverse. I'm 2600/2550 in support and dps. Now literally 1400 in tank.

Mickeroo · 04-10-2019 10:23am

SR differences between roles aren't something to worry about. Each role plays differently and if you haven't played tank much it's only natural your dps/support ranks are much higher.

IvoryTower · 04-10-2019 10:28am

Not sure so, soz, i never really look at the team sr so couldnt tell you if it's similar.

For those on bad loss streaks, emongg was on something like 7W-33L last week, it happens. I remember XQC went on a 15 game loss and ended up a pro player in masters. It's like picking a red/black in roulette. I just try to enjoy the games win or lose and not focus on the sr.

Played lots of sym last night, if you cant beat her play her I guess. Got 48 kills in my last game, she's a monster. Maybe doomfist next...just seems so hard to play

Homelander · 04-10-2019 10:30am

I don't really mind that. It's more why am I constantly getting matches where my team is 300SR lower, but it never happens in reverse? (ie my team is never, ever more than 50 higher at best than the enemy team but its constantly 300 lower). One of the last games I played last night they had a platinum McCree, were almost 300sr higher as a team, while ours was all bronze. That should not be happening.

Mickeroo · 04-10-2019 10:35am

Normal enough to see the odd plat player in gold but in bronze that's very strange. I'd say what's happening is the plat guy was playing with a friend in silver or bronze.

IvoryTower · 04-10-2019 10:37am

take a photo of your next game when it shows the team sr and we'll do some investigating

fixXxer · 04-10-2019 10:39am

I have a group who play together, would be gold4lyfe but when we play with our bronze level player it gets a bit screwy sometimes. I think their matchmaking system is struggling a bit with player SR moving allover the place recently since the change.

Homelander · 04-10-2019 11:01am

There is definitely something up here. I just got a draw game and lost 50 SR with gold damage as Orissa. I didn't even think that was possible, I thought draw was static.

Homelander · 04-10-2019 11:24am

This is how I am playing in pretty much every game. This is the game I lost 50SR for as a draw.

IvoryTower · 04-10-2019 11:34am

Sounds broken alright

Mickeroo · 04-10-2019 12:08pm

Losing 50sr on a draw seems very off alright.

TitianGerm · 04-10-2019 12:09pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Losing 50sr on a draw seems very off alright.

50sr is usually what you lose for quitting. Maybe the game thought he backed out?

Mickeroo · 04-10-2019 12:11pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

50sr is usually what you lose for quitting. Maybe the game thought he backed out?

He would have had a ten minute ban then too I would have thought.

IvoryTower · 12-10-2019 7:49pm

IvoryTower wrote: »

Of course they can keep adding characters!

They'll nerf sigma/orisa and then itll be onto the next "worst meta".

Any day now lols. This is painful

fixXxer · 12-10-2019 8:19pm

Next update will be October 15th when the Switch version is released.

Mickeroo · 13-10-2019 12:25am

Be cool to see some nintendo themed skins or something. I'm thinking Link Brigitte skin, Samus Aran Pharah skin, Mario Torb skin, Bowser Road hog....

The possibities are endless but highly unlikely there'll be anything like that unfortunately.

K.O.Kiki · 29-10-2019 1:31pm

Overwatch 2 a near certainty at this stage.

Kinda not feeling due to the whole Blizzard-being-scum bit.

Also reading 4chan rumours.
Take them with a grain of salt, but anons usually don't care this much.

Benzino · 29-10-2019 1:43pm

Heard about this over the weekend and was a bit surprised to be honest, but looking forward to it now. Personally I don't find Overwatch stale yet, and the new Push mode will be a nice addition, but interested to see how they are going to mix it up. I wonder does this mean hero 32 will be the last one for the current game.

K.O.Kiki · 29-10-2019 1:58pm

More leaked images:

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fixXxer · 31-10-2019 2:50pm

OW2 looks promising, the updated art work looks promising if true, apart from Sojourn maybe who looks a bit generic.

In free fall this season. Placed mid gold-ish at the start and crashed since then 1800 all round now. Support dropped about 500 SR :-/

Nody · 01-11-2019 8:23pm

Overwatch 2 annonuced at Blizzcon, all current Overwatch 1 skins will carry over to Overwatch 2 and all Overwatch 1 players can play on the new maps against Overwatch 2 players. What OW2 will have vs. OW1 will be an extensive group and solo set of story PvE missions.

TitianGerm · 01-11-2019 8:30pm

Nody wrote: »

Overwatch 2 annonuced at Blizzcon, all current Overwatch 1 skins will carry over to Overwatch 2 and all Overwatch 1 players can play on the new maps against Overwatch 2 players. What OW2 will have vs. OW1 will be an extensive group and solo set of story PvE missions.

Yep so no need to buy the new game unless you want the PvE stuff it seems. Good move and have to complement them in not leaving all the skins/unlocks/achievements behind.

I was never to pushed about PvE stuff but will probably end up buying it, especially if there's a discounted upgrade price for Overwatch owners.

Nody · 01-11-2019 8:31pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

Yep so no need to buy the new game unless you want the PvE stuff it seems. Good move and have to complement them in not leaving all the skins/unlocks/achievements behind.

I was never to pushed about PvE stuff but will probably end up buying it, especially if there's a discounted upgrade price for Overwatch owners.

I got a feeling the new characters will also be locked to OW2 simply due to skins.

TitianGerm · 01-11-2019 8:33pm

Nody wrote: »

I got a feeling the new characters will also be locked to OW2 simply due to skins.

Didn't think of that actually.

J. Marston · 01-11-2019 8:46pm

The lore of the Overwatch universe never grabbed me. It all seems so wishy-washy and tacked on.

Mickeroo · 01-11-2019 9:09pm

So it's a glorified dlc then.

Nody · 01-11-2019 9:25pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

So it's a glorified dlc then.

Well DLC is on the small side; I'd say an PvE expansion as it's new mode, new maps, new skins and new characters were only the maps seems to be free.

Venom · 01-11-2019 10:08pm

Nody wrote: »

I got a feeling the new characters will also be locked to OW2 simply due to skins.

The dude on stage gave the impression the new characters and PvP maps will be open to OW1 players as well most likely so Activision can sell more skins.

Nody · 01-11-2019 10:20pm

Venom wrote: »

The dude on stage gave the impression the new characters and PvP maps will be open to OW1 players as well most likely so Activision can sell more skins.

PvP maps and modes for sure; characters was not clear. I could see it go either way on them to be honest as it would be a great incentive to push people to the latest game ala Total War Warhammer series for example and also a question mark on the skill tree for example; will that carry over to PvP as well (i.e. changing up ultimates etc.)?

fixXxer · 02-11-2019 12:21am

Brigette and Reinhardt interlocking shields shown in the animated short looked interesting. That would be a real game changing feature to introduce character synergy like that.

TitianGerm · 02-11-2019 12:30am

fixXxer wrote: »

Brigette and Reinhardt interlocking shields shown in the animated short looked interesting. That would be a real game changing feature to introduce character synergy like that.

It'll only be for the PvE content is my guess. Same as the way Tracer put her bomb on Mei's back pack. It all seemed to be showing the group working together and we know that's not how the PvP game works.

Overwatch (the second thread)

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