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STORM FRANK, Tuesday 29th-Wednesday 30th. Heavy Rain, Flooding and strong winds.

  • 27-12-2015 10:57pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭


    Advance warning of heavy rain (Up to 300mm in localised parts of Cork and Kerry) and Strong winds (Up to 130/140km/h gusts) for Tuesday 29th and Wednesday 30th December. Met Éireann have cited this storm may be called Frank. Flooding likely in the already saturated North-west/West/South-west.

    Met Eireann weather warning issued:
    "STATUS ORANGE

    Wind Warning for Donegal, Galway, Leitrim, Mayo, Sligo, Clare and Kerry
    Southerly winds associated with Storm Frank will reach mean speeds of 65 to 80 km with gusts of 100 to 120 km/hour, strongest in coastal areas on Tuesday afternoon, evening and early night.
    Issued:Monday 28 December 2015 11:00
    Valid:Tuesday 29 December 2015 12:00 to Tuesday 29 December 2015 23:59

    STATUS ORANGE

    Rainfall Warning for Wicklow, Galway, Cork, Kerry and Waterford
    Rainfall totals of 40 to 70 mm over 24 hours between Tuesday midday and Wednesday midday.

    Issued:Monday 28 December 2015 18:00
    Valid:Tuesday 29 December 2015 12:00 to Wednesday 30 December 2015 12:00

    STATUS YELLOW

    Wind Warning for Leinster, Cavan, Monaghan, Roscommon, Cork, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford
    Southerly winds will reach speeds of 45 to 65 km/hour with gusts of 90 to 109 km/hr, strongest on the south coast through the second half of Tuesday and Tuesday night.

    Issued:Monday 28 December 2015 11:00
    Valid:Tuesday 29 December 2015 12:00 to Wednesday 30 December 2015 06:00


    STATUS YELLOW

    Rainfall Warning for Donegal, Monaghan, Cavan, Sligo, Roscommon, Mayo, Leitrim, Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and all Leinster except Wicklow.
    Rainfall totals of 25 to 40 mm over 24 hours between Tuesday midday and Wednesday midday.

    Issued:Monday 28 December 2015 18:00
    Valid:Tuesday 29 December 2015 12:00 to Wednesday 30 December 2015 12:00"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Tactical


    Interesting few days of model watching ahead.
    Almost as exciting as Lamp Post watching ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Dazzo


    Tactical wrote: »
    Interesting few days of model watching ahead.
    Almost as exciting as Lamp Post watching ;)

    Is there a possibility of some lamp post watching new years eve?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


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    Does this map mean they are giving severe gusts for wexford and wicklow areas??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    Does this map mean they are giving severe gusts for wexford and wicklow areas??

    It's just one model, but yeah it's showing some strong gusts over the southeast at times during Wednesday. Not as severe as it looked like it would be a few days ago though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    It's just one model, but yeah it's showing some strong gusts over the southeast at times during Wednesday. Not as severe as it looked like it would be a few days ago though.

    Thanks for that.. hopefully it won't be as bad as that. Are the other models in agreement with this? Or is this model just going with worse case scenario?

    Eta: sorry for all the questions..I follow the threads here all the time and I hate the wind. It did alot of damage in Feb 14 around here and would hate for a repeat of that again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    Thanks for that.. hopefully it won't be as bad as that. Are the other models in agreement with this? Or is this model just going with worse case scenario?

    Eta: sorry for all the questions..I follow the threads here all the time and I hate the wind. It did alot of damage in Feb 14 around here and would hate for a repeat of that again.

    This other model also shows gusts possibly 110-120 kmh over the southeast on Wednesday. Might not turn out as strong as that though. I definitely wouldn't expect anything as severe as Feb 2014 at this stage.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    This other model also shows gusts possibly 110-120 kmh over the southeast on Wednesday. Might not turn out as strong as that though. I definitely wouldn't expect anything as severe as Feb 2014

    Thanks maq...will continue to keep an eye on details tomorrow. Hopefully won't be too bad. Thanks for your help.


  • Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭Padster90s


    If that wind hits Dublin this thread will be mental!


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭goodies


    Padster90s wrote: »
    If that wind hits Dublin this thread will be mental!

    Not just us poor Kerry gang constantly hammered!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭Padster90s


    goodies wrote: »
    Not just us poor Kerry gang constantly hammered!

    Its nice to see mother nature spread the love with this one!


  • Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭teddybones


    Highest this year from asford weather station was 66mph last month. If this scenario comes off it would possibly be 75mph so really a very significant event for east coast imo. Lots of power cuts and slates off and trees down with that storm in November so would be definitely be very cautious of this coming event if it does play out as above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Another model, just showing rainfall from noon Tuesday to noon Wednesday. It doesn't include the rain before or after that. Cork and Kerry off the scale with 70+ mm in 24 hours, which would meet Met Eireann's criteria for a red warning for rainfall.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Been comparing the earlier runs to the 18Z and it would apprear that the stronger winds off the W coast are that bit stronger and nearer the coastline on the later run. Weds looking very windy in the S, SE and E and with all that rainfall trying to leave the rivers.....

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    Going to be a monsterous sea on tues and weds, just coming out ot the high tides ,coastal erosion and flooding again a factor.
    There is going to be some plethora of warnings tues and weds between wind and rain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Ok guys looking at what is being posted are we looking at a Red warning at some stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭John mac


    300 MM of rain (maybe a bit of a daily mail moment? :eek:;))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    John mac wrote: »
    300 MM of rain (may be a bit of a daily mail moment? :eek:;))

    In certain places.

    300mm fell in some locations in the UK a couple of weeks ago in under 36 hours


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Quote Storm 10 Ok guys looking at what is being posted are we looking at a Red warning at some stage
    Another model, just showing rainfall from noon Tuesday to noon Wednesday. It doesn't include the rain before or after that. Cork and Kerry off the scale with 70+ mm in 24 hours, which would meet Met Eireann's criteria for a red warning for rainfall.

    WppSelGl.jpg

    Weather Element Criteria for Red - Severe Weather Warnings

    1. Wind Mean Speeds in excess of 80 km/h
    Gusts Speeds in excess of 130 km/h
    2. Rain 70mm or greater in 24 hrs
    50mm or greater in 12 hrs
    40mm or greater in 6 hrs


    Looking close enough more especially for rainfall, maybe some W/NW counties for wind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Ok guys looking at what is being posted are we looking at a Red warning at some stage

    I think they might be reluctant to issue a Red wind warning for Tuesday even though some models do show 130km gusts brushing by the west coast. It would only be brief and limited to the exposed coastline. It wouldnt really be representive of speeds inland at all.

    A red warning for rainfall is more likely but it will depend on how it looks on their models closer to the time.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


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    Wednesday is a bit different on the ECM. Could be quite strong in the west rather than the east.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Would ECM be the favoured run? I notice it is from the 12Z as opposed to the GFS 18Z.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Would ECM be the favoured run? I notice it is from the 12Z as opposed to the GFS 18Z.

    Would definitely favour the ECM with a low like this at 72 hours. But it's a more unpredictable one than the big low on Tuesday so we'll have to see if the ECM models it consistently before knowing for sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Wx


    Would definitely favour the ECM with a low like this at 72 hours. But it's a more unpredictable one than the big low on Tuesday so we'll have to see if the ECM models it consistently before knowing for sure.

    Do ECM do intermediate 0600Z and 1800Z runs?
    Don't think so!
    Anyone confirm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Wx wrote: »
    Do ECM do intermediate 0600Z and 1800Z runs?
    Don't think so!
    Anyone confirm?

    Nope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I think they might be reluctant to issue a Red wind warning for Tuesday even though some models do show 130km gusts brushing by the west coast. It would only be brief and limited to the exposed coastline. It wouldnt really be representive of speeds inland at all.

    A red warning for rainfall is more likely but it will depend on how it looks on their models closer to the time.

    at least the schools are still out so that safety measure is intact.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Met Eireann on radio 1 forecast said the southern half of the country to get 100mm to 120mm of rain between now and new year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭legomaniac


    MT's forecast and Met Eireann's are both going for major downgrades in the severity of the conditions for this week. Nothing more than a spell of typical winter gales and heavy rains. I expect nothing more than a yellow alert to be issued. As I posted on here a few days ago, I am going to tackle the garage roof tomorrow with help from two neighbours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Just seen this on breaking news http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/shannon-areas-on-flood-watch-as-winter-rain-reaches-unprecedented-levels-713156.html.. I am keeping an eye on kerrycoco twitter aa roadwatch twitter etc and some flood reports in from Cork already. Heavy unrelenting rain up here . South Kerry 400 asl


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  • Registered Users Posts: 684 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    Is it likely now that this storm will not be named as the winds don't look 2 bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    eastmayo wrote: »
    Is it likely now that this storm will not be named as the winds don't look 2 bad.

    I think they name everything that brings Orange warning winds. While this won't be as severe as it looked a few days ago, it will still bring winds of Orange alert level over Tuesday-Wednesday and a lot of rain. So I'd imagine it will be named.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Well guys storm has just been named.
    Welcome to frank


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Also, for people who now think this storm is now a nonevent, don't. Be prepared, it may catch you by surprise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭B17G


    Looks like we'll dodge the bullet though.

    EDIT: dodge a wind event probably. Rainfall amounts could be significant though.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Torrential rain here now. It wouldn't want to last too long or flooding a major issue


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Met Eireann orange warning issued and added to OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Coles


    MetCheck has a warning in place for Ireland.
    Severe Weather Warning for Severe Gales/Heavy Rain

    An extremely active area of low pressure will affect all parts of Ireland during Tuesday evening and overnight into Wednesday.

    Initial concerns are on Tuesday evening when a strengthening Southwesterly wind will increase to gale force across all parts with severe gales, perhaps storm force winds for exposed coastal locations.

    Overnight, a band of heavy/torrential rainfall will cross slowly from the West. Many area will see 25-50mm of rainfall withing a 12 hour period with some areas, chiefly parts of Southwest and Central Ireland seeing 75-100mm (3-4") of rainfall which will lead to an increased risk of local/regional flooding and disruption.

    https://www.metcheck.com/IE/warnings.asp


  • Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭shmaupel


    Relatively calm and dry in south Donegal atm. Delighted that it now looks like the worst winds will remain at sea. Feel very sorry for all those further south who are already flooded and looking down the barrel of more rain ☹


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Torrential rain here now. It wouldn't want to last too long or flooding a major issue

    So far only one issue here according to AA roadwatch map. South Kerry 400 asl. Hoping to get out early tomorrow for a while early tomorrow if roads are clear still


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    EURO4 rain up until 6am Wednesday, as far as the model goes.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭cml387


    We've already had 13mm of rain here this morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    "We still dont know what the intensity will be as the storm approaches ireland" so she said on the radio


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭B17G


    Euro 4. Winds at 3pm tomorrow.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    We had a brief respite from the rain here in Wexford,about an hour or two of dry weather and it's raining again now.Frank will be a top up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Sounds.....ah well, just time to get out and back first thing tomorrow then back to indoors. Stay on time please Frank! No early arrival.. South Kerry 400 asl


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    12Z ups the ante for rainfall.
    Red warning becoming more likely now for South and West esp


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    12Z ups the ante for rainfall.
    Red warning becoming more likely now for South and West esp

    Any day in particular?a lot of heavy rain already today


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    12Z ups the ante for rainfall.
    Red warning becoming more likely now for South and West esp

    Is there any chance of putting together an update for the "sticky" links, that will give the web location (ideally link) and source of the updates that are quoted here on a regular basis, and that posters indicate which system their post relates to, while the post quoted may well be true, without being able to see the map or chart that it's referring to, as quoted, that post is not a lot of help in determining the areas that are at risk, and for me, knowing what the risk factor is for my own local area is of prime importance if the forecast is for heavy rain.

    In other words, the above quote ideally reads something like 12Z from ECMWF ups the ante....., with the requirement that there be a link in the sticky that makes it easy to find and display the ECMWF site that's being referred to.

    The other alternative is for the poster to embed the map or chart into the post, as many here do, so that users like me can see what they're referring to.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭naughto


    U can't see the location on touch site


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