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Opel Corsa-e

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    sekond wrote: »
    It's a beautiful piece of sculpture, isn't it?!

    You have done an amazing job of photographing a good looking car and making it look like it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down :D

    Good luck with the car!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭sekond


    krissovo wrote: »
    You have done an amazing job of photographing a good looking car and making it look like it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down :D

    :D:D I'm not known for my photography skills...! It is a very good looking car despite my photo. Hopefully I'll actually get to drive it soon!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    There is something wrong for sure if all those hours granny charging has led to a drop in charge.
    I hope the dealer knows what's going on for your sake....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭sekond


    slave1 wrote: »
    There is something wrong for sure if all those hours granny charging has led to a drop in charge.
    I hope the dealer knows what's going on for your sake....

    Me too. I intentionally went with a dealer that has some experience with electric cars (they do Nissan also), but that doesn't seem to have worked in my favour.

    My ancient bullet proof corolla is looking very attractive right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    sekond wrote: »
    ... after 6 hours attached to the granny charger the battery has actually decreased and is now at less than 5%

    And did the car show that it was charging during that time?

    Dont know about the Corsa but most EV's have a series of flashing lights on the dash to show that it is charging and the progress it is making. Did you see those?


    If not, it might just be a case that the car has a timer enabled or something preventing it from charging so while you have it plugged in its not actually charging.

    The dealer should really have taken you through more of this rather than letting you loose without a proper run through of it. It doesnt do EV adoption any good! :)


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    sekond wrote: »
    Me too. I intentionally went with a dealer that has some experience with electric cars (they do Nissan also), but that doesn't seem to have worked in my favour.

    My ancient bullet proof corolla is looking very attractive right now.

    Where are you based, someone might be local and give you a crash course (that should of been given by the dealer)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭sekond


    KCross wrote: »
    And did the car show that it was charging during that time?

    Dont know about the Corsa but most EV's have a series of flashing lights on the dash to show that it is charging and the progress it is making. Did you see those?


    If not, it might just be a case that the car has a timer enabled or something preventing it from charging so while you have it plugged in its not actually charging.

    The dealer should really have taken you through more of this rather than letting you loose without a proper run through of it. It doesnt do EV adoption any good! :)

    It did. Flashing green light where it was plugged in, and said on the dash that it was charging (but at a rate of 0km per hour). I think to be honest, the sales person was more comfortable with the Leaf, and assumed I knew what I was doing... and I thought I knew what I was doing too!

    It has been taken back now, so hopefully they'll get to the bottom of it soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭sekond


    liamog wrote: »
    Where are you based, someone might be local and give you a crash course (that should of been given by the dealer)

    I'm in Wicklow.

    I hung around a bit longer at the Coyne's Cross charger yesterday evening when everything was going wrong, in the vague hopes that someone might come to charge and be able to help me out! But I'm beginning to think that my issue with the charger may have actually been due to whatever is wrong with the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    I think Bjorn Nyland had similar issues with the corsa, if I recall correctly he had to reset the 12v a couple of times during his testing.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Flashing green light where it was plugged in, and said on the dash that it was charging (but at a rate of 0km per hour).

    Wasn't charging so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭sekond


    It was, apparently, a set up issue. The car is now charging and will be returned to me fully charged tomorrow. Apparently they only have a slow charger available for that car - their fast chargers are ChaDeMo only.:confused:

    I feel like I've been a bit of a guinea pig for the dealer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭sekond


    A final update. Turns out it had been left in "transport mode". I got the car back this morning, and the person who delivered it drives an electric car himself so gave me a few tips. Spent the day driving around and getting used to it. I still have over 200km range, and today was a relatively heavy days driving for me so it will be a while before I need to charge.

    I'm really really pleased with it. It's beautiful to drive, very comfortable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 800 ✭✭✭Jimjay


    sekond wrote: »
    A final update. Turns out it had been left in "transport mode". I got the car back this morning, and the person who delivered it drives an electric car himself so gave me a few tips. Spent the day driving around and getting used to it. I still have over 200km range, and today was a relatively heavy days driving for me so it will be a while before I need to charge.

    I'm really really pleased with it. It's beautiful to drive, very comfortable.

    Glad you got it sorted. Im in wicklow too and waiting on mine from the local wicklow town opel dealer. I presume thats not where you got yours as they dont sell other electric cars.

    Btw how long did it take to get your car? Did it take long for the grant? Have you got your charger installation booked in? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭richardsheil


    Are these the beautiful German engineered Corsas that are a copy of the French 208?

    Hate those ads. Hope the car is great though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭sekond


    Jimjay wrote: »
    Glad you got it sorted. Im in wicklow too and waiting on mine from the local wicklow town opel dealer. I presume thats not where you got yours as they dont sell other electric cars.

    Btw how long did it take to get your car? Did it take long for the grant? Have you got your charger installation booked in? Thanks

    Missed this originally - car took about a week and a half, delayed by the grant that the dealer had to get sorted before it could be registered - car itself was available within 4 days (but without the mats, still waiting for those!).

    Charger grant letter of offer arrived in 48 hours. Very speedy, but still waiting on installation. After my 3rd call to them today I've been told they will probably install it next week, and they will call on Monday to confirm. I'm not holding my breath!

    Did you get your car yet?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,567 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Are these the beautiful German engineered Corsas that are a copy of the French 208?

    Hate those ads. Hope the car is great though

    Don't worry , the guts are chinese ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Have to say I drove one of these on an extended test drive last weekend and Im quite impressed.
    Range when fully charged on dash 310km. Real life I would have said I got close to 250 km over the weekend on a single charge.. I really liked the interface and it will move when it wants. Quite comfortable to drive even on a long journey.
    Great fun in sports mode :)

    Really solid drive and feels stuck to the road almost like driving a go-kart due to the low centre of gravity.


    The bad?
    No granny charger with it so I had to depend on public charging points. Opel haven't brought in granny chargers yet.



    ***Disclaimer - I do work in an Opel dealer***


  • Registered Users Posts: 800 ✭✭✭Jimjay


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Have to say I drove one of these on an extended test drive last weekend and Im quite impressed.
    Range when fully charged on dash 310km. Real life I would have said I got close to 250 km over the weekend on a single charge.. I really liked the interface and it will move when it wants. Quite comfortable to drive even on a long journey.
    Great fun in sports mode :)

    Really solid drive and feels stuck to the road almost like driving a go-kart due to the low centre of gravity.


    The bad?
    No granny charger with it so I had to depend on public charging points. Opel haven't brought in granny chargers yet.



    ***Disclaimer - I do work in an Opel dealer***


    Mine is perfect for commute to work (50km - 25 each way). Im getting 6 trips - I could get 7 but would be watching the GOM all the way home on the 7th. Looking at the kw/100km for a full charge im guessing I could get 360km if I dare go to 0%.

    Did a staycation with 195km motorway drive. got an average of 18.5kwh/100KM which is a motorway range of 240KM. I could have slowed down a bit and got more, im sure.
    Obviously this will change a bit in winter too.

    im still waiting on the free smart charger from Opel - which has been a pain the ass the arrange (via Energia) apparently being installed this week - won't hold my breath.

    I bought a 10m granny charger from Screwfix so using that at the mo)


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭Conba


    I sat into one of these on Monday and I'm just wondering why I'm not seeing more interest in this car on these forums? Why is the ID.3 forum on fire right now with barely a flicker in this? I realize the ID.3 is much nicer looking, both inside and out. But the Corsa-e seems to offer some of the best value in EVs right now, no? Or am I missing something?


  • Posts: 2,827 [Deleted User]


    there will be no great marketing effort for this car or the Peugeot beyond not giving the impression that PSA is a maker of fossil fuel dinosaurs.
    They have 8 to 9 month waiting lists for production.
    e208 petrol has 12 week build wait while electric version had almost 8 month wait list. corsa-e had 7 months when I was inquiring.


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Conba wrote: »
    I sat into one of these on Monday and I'm just wondering why I'm not seeing more interest in this car on these forums? Why is the ID.3 forum on fire right now with barely a flicker in this? I realize the ID.3 is much nicer looking, both inside and out. But the Corsa-e seems to offer some of the best value in EVs right now, no? Or am I missing something?

    I think the Corsa-e is great value for what you get, but as a car it's not that exciting. I've always seen Opel's as the car your friend who doesn't talk about cars buys.
    there will be no great marketing effort for this car or the Peugeot beyond not giving the impression that PSA is a maker of fossil fuel dinosaurs.
    They have 8 to 9 month waiting lists for production.
    e208 petrol has 12 week build wait while electric version had almost 8 month wait list. corsa-e had 7 months when I was inquiring.

    To clarify, is this in Germany, when I looked at the e208 here, it was pretty much a case of order and it would be on the next boat.


  • Posts: 2,827 [Deleted User]


    liamog wrote: »
    I think the Corsa-e is great value for what you get, but as a car it's not that exciting. I've always seen Opel's as the car your friend who doesn't talk about cars buys.



    To clarify, is this in Germany, when I looked at the e208 here, it was pretty much a case of order and it would be on the next boat.
    Yes but they are coming from the same factories in Slovakia and Spain with sub-assemblies for the electric drivetrain coming from Italy which were affected by corona outbreak.
    For e208 they're giving our company 29% discount on similar petrol and only 12% on electric.
    For Corsa the difference is 23% and 12% for similar level Petrols and EVs.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Yes but they are coming from the same factories in Slovakia and Spain with sub-assemblies for the electric drivetrain coming from Italy which were affected by corona outbreak.
    For e208 they're giving our company 29% discount on similar petrol and only 12% on electric.
    For Corsa the difference is 23% and 12% for similar level Petrols and EVs.

    Can you make it clear when you are talking about availability of any car that it applies to your home market which is not Ireland. We often find differences here due to us using RHD vehicles and differences in how many vehicles the importer has ordered.
    A good example was the Ioniq in 2017. It was almost impossible to get in the UK with it's 18 month waiting list, but for some reason Ireland had a steady supply so our waiting lists were only around 3-6 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭sekond


    there will be no great marketing effort for this car or the Peugeot beyond not giving the impression that PSA is a maker of fossil fuel dinosaurs.
    They have 8 to 9 month waiting lists for production.
    e208 petrol has 12 week build wait while electric version had almost 8 month wait list. corsa-e had 7 months when I was inquiring.

    I waited a grand total of a week and a half for mine. Most of that was waiting for the grant approval.

    But liamog's assessment is probably true, it's not an exciting car and I'm most definitely "your friend who doesn't talk about cars", but a month later, I adore it. It's a lovely car to drive, it is the perfect size for me, the range is great for my purposes, and it may have turned me into someone who talks about cars...


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,284 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    liamog wrote: »
    Can you make it clear when you are talking about availability of any car that it applies to your home market which is not Ireland. We often find differences here due to us using RHD vehicles and differences in how many vehicles the importer has ordered.
    A good example was the Ioniq in 2017. It was almost impossible to get in the UK with it's 18 month waiting list, but for some reason Ireland had a steady supply so our waiting lists were only around 3-6 months.

    Same with the E Niro with massive waits (and still massive waits) in the uk

    I ordered in mid novemeber and could have picked up one that january, but waited for the second edition in march. i think the wait here now for a new one is fairly short.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Casati


    The range calculator they have is very useful for getting a good understanding of how speed and temperature impacts range, fair play to them for showing this rather than just talking the headline 335km

    At 5 degrees driving at 120kmph the range drops to 172km - almost 50% of the WLTP range. Note sure if this drop is the same for most EV’s but it’s quite a drop


  • Registered Users Posts: 800 ✭✭✭Jimjay


    When i bought mine dealer said there was plenty of stock delivered to ireland and could choose any colour. Think also in ireland (and uk) its only available in two specs with no options where as in europe its lower spec and everything is an option so takes longer.

    Its funny, i think its a great looking car (better in some colours than others). Before mine arrived my friends were asking why i bought a corsa and when it came they were like oh yeah its really nice looking car.

    It shifts too :-) i part chopped a year old a class merc. I miss the quality and interior but it was very under powered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    Anyone who bought the Corsa e got any initial thoughts on it? Is the charging and app reliable? Any Pros/Cons after owning one for a while?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭cannco253


    I saw my first Corsa e today. Looks great in red, had a quick chat with the owner and he was delighted with it.

    Our nearest 6 bay charging place is getting very busy now, especially in the last 2-3 months.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    You have 6? I only have 2! Anyway, got a home charger during the week and have the Corsa-E just over two weeks now and going strong!! Put 38kW into it one night which is as much as my house uses in 1/2 a week!!!! It's working out well, stable to drive and glad I purchased.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Patmwgs


    I am thinking of purchasing the electric corsa, i would appreciate all your experiences on them thus far.
    Thanks


  • Posts: 2,827 [Deleted User]


    It feels considerably less special than the Peugeot e-208 which is the same car underneath. If you can find a good driving position (which will take a few minutes of adjustment of seat height/recline, steering wheel reach/rake) in the e-208 then that will be the better car. Learning the Peugeot controls will take a day or two.
    Multiple reviewers have reported that the Corsa-e brakes are grabby and driving experience mediocre.
    If you need the space on a budget then get an ID3 45kwh or drive a hard bargain on an Ioniq/Leaf.


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Patmwgs


    Thanks for the info, i will price up and compare the peugeot. the leaf or the id3 would be the preferred car, but the price is a bit much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Patmwgs


    The hp on the peugeot is 4.9 apr alot steeper than the corsa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭who_ru


    Mokka e looks a good option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    There are good reviews on the Mokka 3 - more refined drive. Higher sitting position. Shop around and see what's the best deal you can get. I was about to go for the ID.3 but the financing was terrible compared to the fossil fuel cars they were selling right beside it! Service interval on my corsa-e is 2 years or 25K, Peugeot is yearly. I just didn't like the interior of it though but the ride from what I recall was better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭sekond


    I've had mine for 9 months now and I still love it. Its a good looking car, the range and handling is perfect for me. My husband, who would be more of a car person than me constantly finds reasons to take my car instead of his, and loves how zippy it is from a standing start.

    After 9 months I only have 2 tiny complaints. The app is pretty rubbish (but then I don't use it much anyway) and the seat belt doesn't have an adjuster - which for most people probably isn't an issue, but for a short curvy woman who shares a car with a tall man, means there is a lot of seat adjusting to get it to sit right.

    I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.


  • Posts: 2,827 [Deleted User]


    mike_2009 wrote: »
    There are good reviews on the Mokka 3 - more refined drive. Higher sitting position. Shop around and see what's the best deal you can get. I was about to go for the ID.3 but the financing was terrible compared to the fossil fuel cars they were selling right beside it! Service interval on my corsa-e is 2 years or 25K, Peugeot is yearly. I just didn't like the interior of it though but the ride from what I recall was better.
    Peugeot e208 service interval elsewhere is after 1 year/12500km then every 2 years/25000km.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Those service intervals are taking the p1ss. Can't see how mileage has any impact, the only thing really needed after 2 years is replacing the brake fluid.

    My BMW i3 is every 2 years regardless of mileage and it's even got the Rex.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,400 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    The search is poor on the site.

    This is the only thread that I can find on the E Corsa.

    Just wondering if any owners can share an update as to how they are getting on with the car.

    Considering taking the plunge on a 20 reg


    Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭NyOmnishambles


    I don't have the Corsa but the Peugeot e208 which is essentially the same car underneath

    It is a fantastic little car, range is decent and it charges fast, in fact there is a firmware update available which improves the charging times substantially which I assume will make its way to the Corsa

    I have no complaints about the car, have had it since January and it is a hoot to drive

    If this is your first ev then download the A Better Route planner app as it is great for telling you where you will need to charge on longer journeys and you can use it as your navigation through android auto or apple carplay



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭sekond


    I've had mine over a year now, and still love it.

    As I think I said before, the only issues I have with it really are that the app is rubbish (but I don't use it much), and there is no seatbelt adjuster (possibly only a major issue for short curvy people). It is a small car though - when my husband is driving it, there are complaints from the backseat passengers about foot room - but to be honest, it's my car, I drive it mostly, and there's plenty of space then - just be aware if you are tall that the seat position might lead to cramped foot space. That said, we've fit 4 adults and 1 child in a booster in the car for short trips and it was fine. The boot isn't huge - but plenty big enough for a weekly shop (but we'd take the big 7 seater beast my husband drives for trips that need luggage).

    The range is plenty for my type of driving which is fairly local these days - but lots of short trips. On an average week I only need to charge once. But I also drove the entire length of the M50 twice yesterday, plus some additional local driving, and still had about half the battery left, so other than trips down the country, I can't see range ever being an issue for me.

    If I was buying again this year, it would be my starting point to look at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,400 ✭✭✭CH3OH



    Thanks Sekond and nyOmnishambles for the replies.


    It seems to tick a lot of boxes for a small runaround. I will still have a diesel if I feel that a trip would be outside the range..

    Waiting on figures to see whether it is a runner. The E Mokka is also entering the picture. Just to confuse me even more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    Both are good options - have my Corsa-E for a year now. Just waiting on an ECU update to speed up my charging speed, app was crippled recently but otherwise works great. Have done multiple Belfast trips and one Dublin -> Limerick -> Atlantic way -> back via M6 to Dublin - around 500km and two hours of charging but all went fine. Recent Belfast trip was a disaster due to public charging up there but not the fault of the car. Am heading to Tralle and back in a day next month!

    Local Trips are great, love driving an automatic, makes dealing with heavy traffic more relaxing than wearing out a clutch! Heat pump and LED Matrix headlights in this price range of car really deliver value. Test drive both with a dealer is you get a chance?

    Enjoy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,400 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    Well, Sekond, nyOmnishambles and mike_2009. We seem to be part of a small group!

    Thanks for the input.

    I purchased a Corsa E from Windsor Liffey Valley who I found very helpful.

    Not having driven an electric or automatic before, it was quite an interesting first experience getting from Liffey Valley to M50 South. The left side of my body wanted to clutch and change gear regularly.


    My first impressions are that it is a really nice drive and nicely specced for the entry level.



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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    Looking at making the switch to this in Jan. Love to hear some more feedback from owners. Thanks



  • Posts: 2,827 [Deleted User]


    Get new stock with the new hardware components, not old stock. Range especially in Winter should be better.

    see https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118148910/#Comment_118148910

    don't buy without checking out a Citroen e-C4 and you might be better off waiting for a 40kWh Megane e-Tech which comes a few months later which should be better than all of these PSA/Stellantis products.

    a 45kWh id.3 would be a more versatile car too when it is available to order again but there is no timeframe on that.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Just on the Megane - its possible Renault in their wisdom may either make CCS charging optional or not offer it at all on the 40 kwh.

    If Renault do make CCS charging standard then it should be a really nice car



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭human 19


    I was thinking about the possibility of upgrading my 24kw Leaf to the 62kwh version in order to get from Longford to Dublin & back without charging, when I saw some prices for this model with a 50kwh battery.

    They seem to be selling for around the same price as the Leaf, so I was wondering what are people's experiences of this model. I see 336km range advertised which I obviously take with a pinch of salt.

    Any thought on this model in the 3 years since the last post? Any indications of motorway range ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭linthum


    glad to find a forum on corsa-e. i have been lately researching on leaf vs corsa-e vs id3. there are few 2020 reg under 15k. does anyone know of warranty on these 2020 models.



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