Electric vehicle owners to get reduced tolls, says Naughten

Idbatterim · 29-11-2017 7:51pm #1

Its behind a paywall and I have exceeded my free article limit for today. I would have thought given motor tax is the be all and end all for Irish motorists, that having free motor tax for say a period of minimum 3-5 years at which point it could be reviewed would be a good idea, if not indefinitely as one part of a measure to increase the uptake of these cars here...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/electric-vehicle-owners-to-get-reduced-tolls-says-naughten-1.3309962?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fenvironment%2Felectric-vehicle-owners-to-get-reduced-tolls-says-naughten-1.3309962

cros13 · 29-11-2017 8:44pm

The meat of the article as it relates to us:

During 2018, a new grant to support installation of home charger points for buyers of new and second-hand electric vehicles would be rolled out, and incentives for the adoption of electric taxis. The public charging network would be expanded including the number of “rapid chargers”. Electric vehicle owners would also benefit from reduced road tolls.

Soarer · 29-11-2017 8:47pm

Reduced tolls only really caters those around Dublin really.

Remove motor tax would benefit all EV owners.

cros13 · 29-11-2017 8:50pm

Soarer wrote: »

Reduced tolls only really caters those around Dublin really.

Remove motor tax would benefit all EV owners.

Sure... but how many people are going to move to EV for the extra €120 and the good PR vs. a commuter in Dublin paying €2k+/year in tolls.

Idbatterim · 29-11-2017 8:52pm

there is such an insane thought process around motor tax here, motor tax one would be good option!

Macker · 29-11-2017 9:16pm

Will the grant be retrospective if you get one installed before Christmas for a january delivery?

Fixed the dates

Atlantic Dawn · 29-11-2017 9:18pm

Should be free tolls and free motor tax if they want to attract the "I will buy the car because it has cheapppp tax above all else" folk to electric vehicles.

goz83 · 29-11-2017 9:20pm

cros13 wrote: »

Sure... but how many people are going to move to EV for the extra €120 and the good PR vs. a commuter in Dublin paying €2k+/year in tolls.

Never underestimate the effect of the chape tax on the Irish psyche. Jaysus there’d be serious bragging rights at the local watering hole. Tolls.....shure who cares.....they’re only a couple of yoyos a go

ted1 · 29-11-2017 9:29pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Should be free tolls and free motor tax if they want to attract the "I will buy the car because it has cheapppp tax above all else" folk to electric vehicles.

Free tolls would Save many of my colleagues 25 Euro a week on M50 tolls. That’s like a 2,500 pay rise ( on the basis 50% is taxed)

marno21 · 29-11-2017 9:53pm

Limerick tunnel users could save money here as well. Commuting anywhere west of the Shannon to Raheen/UL requires the use of the tunnel. A 10km commute from Cratloe to Raheen requires €3.80 a day in tolls.

Places like Navan, Enfield, Drogheda to south Dublin too. 2-3 tolls.

Evd-Burner · 29-11-2017 10:32pm

I can't imagine the will give more than 33% off tolls, although I would love more

.

Anybody any idea on when exactly the charger roll-out will start and when we can expect the cheaper tolls from?

Idbatterim · 30-11-2017 7:27am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Should be free tolls and free motor tax if they want to attract the "I will buy the car because it has cheapppp tax above all else" folk to electric vehicles.

CHape tax was enough for people to switch to diesel in their droves

waynegalway · 30-11-2017 8:50am

Idbatterim wrote: »

CHape tax was enough for people to switch to diesel in their droves

True, but the savings were huge with that switch. Going from close to €1000 for a big engined diesel to about €200 for “clean” diesel is a much more attractive reduction than €200 down to €120 at this point.

Calahonda52 · 30-11-2017 10:16am

Quote:
During 2018, a new grant to support installation of home charger points for buyers of new and second-hand electric vehicles would be rolled out, and incentives for the adoption of electric taxis. The public charging network would be expanded including the number of “rapid chargers”. Electric vehicle owners would also benefit from reduced road tolls.

More taxis clogging up the FCPs is all we need, bad enough with the Teslas hogging all the CPs in Sandyford

KCross · 30-11-2017 10:27am

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Quote:
During 2018, a new grant to support installation of home charger points for buyers of new and second-hand electric vehicles would be rolled out, and incentives for the adoption of electric taxis. The public charging network would be expanded including the number of “rapid chargers”. Electric vehicle owners would also benefit from reduced road tolls.

More taxis clogging up the FCPs is all we need, bad enough with the Teslas hogging all the CPs in Sandyford

Indeed. Saw an abandoned taxi at a Cork FCP earlier in the week. The charger said it was plugged in 8mins and was at 81%!!!!

cros13 · 30-11-2017 10:47am

marno21 wrote: »

Limerick tunnel users could save money here as well. Commuting anywhere west of the Shannon to Raheen/UL requires the use of the tunnel. A 10km commute from Cratloe to Raheen requires €3.80 a day in tolls.

Places like Navan, Enfield, Drogheda to south Dublin too. 2-3 tolls.

It will probably only apply to the government owned tolls.

unkel · 30-11-2017 2:48pm

Should be free motor tax and free nationwide tolls. Cost about €200 per car per year. Finance this by taking €1k off the €10k subsidy for new EVs

Costs nothing to the tax payer and will drive people to EVs by the thousands

Shefwedfan · 30-11-2017 9:09pm

Soarer wrote: »

Reduced tolls only really caters those around Dublin really.

Remove motor tax would benefit all EV owners.

Really the target for electric cars should be in the larger cities as this has the highest concentration of pollution.

KCross · 01-01-2018 10:35pm

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/electric-car-owners-will-not-have-to-pay-tolls-465136.html

And he expects 1200 or so BEV's to be registered in 2018 which isn't very ambitious since we had 621 new EV's and 447 imports in 2017 so thats basically flat growth! It will surely be much better than that since it already about doubled from 2016 to 2017!

Im sure there will be a lot of happy M50 users though if he does implement free tolls on that. Thats worth a lot if you are a daily user both ways!

Dont be at yourself · 01-01-2018 10:39pm

I used to commute from Rush to Sandyford 5 days a week. Between tolls and petrol, you'd be a long way towards paying off a new Ioniq or Leaf without coughing up any extra.

goz83 · 02-01-2018 2:05am

I wonder will they have this integrated with the toll tags. Woukd be a right pain in the butt if we got free M50 tolls, but had to remove the tag every time you pass through the toll.

ELM327 · 02-01-2018 8:27am

goz83 wrote: »

I wonder will they have this integrated with the toll tags. Woukd be a right pain in the butt if we got free M50 tolls, but had to remove the tag every time you pass through the toll.

I imagine the rate would be set to 0.00 for EV, probably by creating a new class based on the fuel type in the VLC. Same as they do for commercial, LCV, Bus etc.

Calahonda52 · 02-01-2018 9:28am

unkel wrote: »

Should be free motor tax and free nationwide tolls. Cost about €200 per car per year. Finance this by taking €1k off the €10k subsidy for new EVs

Costs nothing to the tax payer and will drive people to EVs by the thousands

M50
2.10*2*5=euro 21 per week
East link
1.40*2*5= 14 p/w
tunnel
3.00*2*5=30 p/w

beauf · 02-01-2018 9:36am

The tunnel is 10 each trip at peak...

Johnboy1951 · 02-01-2018 10:04am

ELM327 wrote: »

I imagine the rate would be set to 0.00 for EV, probably by creating a new class based on the fuel type in the VLC. Same as they do for commercial, LCV, Bus etc.

They already have a zero class which is used for disabled drivers/passengers vehicles, and is based on the reg number.

No tags etc needed.

ELM327 · 02-01-2018 10:19am

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

They already have a zero class which is used for disabled drivers/passengers vehicles, and is based on the reg number.

No tags etc needed.

The previous poster was referring to EV drivers (like myself I may add) who already have toll tags.

Calahonda52 · 02-01-2018 12:26pm

beauf wrote: »

The tunnel is 10 each trip at peak...

My toll bill is 80 to 110 per month, only use tunnel at 3 euro

Electric vehicle owners to get reduced tolls, says Naughten

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