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UK licence and caught speeding by speed van

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  • 14-03-2017 10:57pm
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    Thegalwayman
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    I work between UK and Ireland but only have car in Ireland and use UK licence. Got fine letter to my Irish address. Whats the deal with points etc?


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    nosilver
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    Thegalwayman wrote: »
    I work between UK and Ireland but only have car in Ireland and use UK licence. Got fine letter to my Irish address. Whats the deal with points etc?

    Points will be registered in your name at your address and will remain for 3 years.

    If you exchange for Irish licence the points will be applied to that licence.

    Basically they are on record.

    I talk from personal experience :) - got letter a few weeks ago to say points had expired as 3 years was up.

    You could provide UK address as points are not recognised at present - changes in May.


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    CiniO
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    nosilver wrote: »
    Points will be registered in your name at your address and will remain for 3 years.

    If you exchange for Irish licence the points will be applied.

    That's what it used to be.
    It changed couple years ago.

    Now points are applied to his name/address/foreign licence number and if 12 points will be exceeded within 3 years, he will be banned from driving in Ireland.


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    GM228
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    nosilver wrote: »
    You could provide UK address as points are not recognised at present - changes in May.

    Points will not be recognised outside of the state from May, just the fine and it's enforcement will be recognised accross any EU state.

    Points applied to a licence weather it be an Irish or foreign licence are only recognised in Ireland.

    The exception being between Ireland-UK under bi-lateral agreement, the points themselves are not recognised per se, but a ban is.


    CiniO wrote: »
    That's what it used to be.
    It changed couple years ago.

    Now points are applied to his name/address/foreign licence number and if 12 points will be exceeded within 3 years, he will be banned from driving in Ireland.

    Correct, has been the case since 28th October 2011.


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    CiniO
    Registered Users Posts: 16,089 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    GM228 wrote: »
    Points will not be recognised outside of the state from May, just the fine and it's enforcement will be recognised accross any EU state.

    Have you got any details how this is going to work?


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    GM228
    Registered Users Posts: 8,925 ✭✭✭GM228


    CiniO wrote: »
    Have you got any details how this is going to work?

    A summons will be issued via post under the provisions of Council Act (2000/C 197/01), the Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters between the Member States of the European Union (which supplements the provisions of Council of Europe Treaty No.30, the European Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters). The summons does not compell you to attend court, but you can be convicted and fined in your absence.

    A fine issued in one EU member state will be recognised and enforceable in another member state under the provisions of EU Directive 2015/413/EU, the Cross-Border Enforcement Directive - this directive is due to come into force in Ireland, the UK and Denmark from May 7th and is already in force in all other EU states since 2015.

    The fine will be recoverable in any EU state via the provisions of the EU Council Framework Decision 2005/214/JHA, the Principle of Mutual Recognition to Financial Penalties.


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    CiniO
    Registered Users Posts: 16,089 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    GM228 wrote: »
    A summons will be issued via post under the provisions of Council Act (2000/C 197/01), the Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters between the Member States of the European Union (which supplements the provisions of Council of Europe Treaty No.30, the European Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters). The summons does not compell you to attend court, but you can be convicted and fined in your absence.

    A fine issued in one EU member state will be recognised and enforceable in another member state under the provisions of EU Directive 2015/413/EU, the Cross-Border Enforcement Directive - this directive is due to come into force in Ireland, the UK and Denmark from May 7th and is already in force in all other EU states since 2015.

    The fine will be recoverable in any EU state via the provisions of the EU Council Framework Decision 2005/214/JHA, the Principle of Mutual Recognition to Financial Penalties.

    Thanks for that info. Appreciate it.

    Unfortunately it probably means the end of the good times times :)


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    Thegalwayman
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    If someone with a UK licence and a UK address is driving an Irish residents car within Ireland. Whats the situation?

    Letter received by Irish registered owner of the car. If they fill this in with the UK licence details and UK address of that driver (who has 6pts in the UK on their licence) they will now have points in ireland only but not added to UK pts and just have to pay a fine online??


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    Thegalwayman
    Registered Users Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Thegalwayman


    Thegalwayman wrote: »
    If someone with a UK licence and a UK address is driving an Irish residents car within Ireland. Whats the situation?

    Letter received by Irish registered owner of the car. If they fill this in with the UK licence details and UK address of that driver (who has 6pts in the UK on their licence) they will now have points in ireland only but not added to UK pts and just have to pay a fine online??

    So UK driver received the fixed penalty notice. Do they have to pay the fine or can they ignore it?


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