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FTTC , Finally!

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  • #32
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The NAS is a Qnap-TS231 and does have plex but does't have the power to transcode on-the-fly but does have the option to transcode as a background task which would take forever given it's a dual core Arm device.

    I've a QNAP TS430 myself, so in the same boat, I use a Mac Mini in conjunction with it for Plex streaming and transcoding.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    I don't want to use a laptop/PC to transcode, minimum power consumption was the idea when I bought the NAS.

    I agree, but you have the work out the cost of a new Intel CPU NAS versus the cost of the extra power used by an old PC you might have laying around. Of course it completely depends on the power usage of the PC.

    My Mac Mini is pretty low powered and I already had it, so I worked out that it would take about 30 years for a new NAS to pay back for itself in power savings.

    Worth doing the maths on it before splurging on a new NAS.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    The other problem is I won't have a static IP from Vodafone which I think should be a free option I would't pay the extra. The Nas can be accessed through qnap without a static IP because it has it's own DDNS and to find the IP would always be easy but a pain in the ass to enter every time I want to watch something through Kodi.

    Plex works fine with dynamic IP's. It uses an account and a free cloud service to ensure plex clients can attach to the Plex server even behind dynamic IP's etc.

    Deleted User wrote: »
    The other Idea is to get another Intel based NAS and use the current one in my mothers as a backup. I don't use RAID on the NAS because RAID isn't a backup and shouldn't be someone's idea of a backup. It's a waste of disks for home use.

    Haha, it feels like you are reading my mind! While I can't justify a new intel NAS based on power savings, I have been toying with the idea of putting the old one in my parents house as a backup and buying a new intel one for home.

    And yes, you are absolutely correct about RAID not being a backup. Just last week the firmware on my QNAP got messed up! I've spent the last week copying everything off it to external USB HDD's over scp, super slow and painful! *

    * I actually already had all important stuff already backed up, only non essential stuff wasn't backed up, but I'd still rather not lose it all still.


  • #33
    ItHurtsWhenIP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Deleted User wrote: »
    ...

    The other Idea is to get another Intel based NAS and use the current one in my mothers as a backup. I don't use RAID on the NAS because RAID isn't a backup and shouldn't be someone's idea of a backup. It's a waste of disks for home use.
    ...
    bk wrote: »
    ...
    And yes, you are absolutely correct about RAID not being a backup. Just last week the firmware on my QNAP got messed up! I've spent the last week copying everything off it to external USB HDD's over scp, super slow and painful! *

    * I actually already had all important stuff already backed up, only non essential stuff wasn't backed up, but I'd still rather not lose it all still.

    OT - Sorry, but ...

    I know RAID isn't a backup, but it does give some resilience to disk failures. I'd prefer to lose a bit of space so I don't have to worry about losing a disk with all of the data on it.

    @bk - granted in your scenario RAID would have made your life much more difficult.

    My approach is to have RAID on my NAS, but I keep all critical and volatile data backed up to the cloud and have the non-volatile stuff on disconnected external drives.


  • #34
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Three is two, two is one, one is none, but you'd be nuts not to have RAID/SW Redundancy on #2 if you've a large dataset.

    #VeryOT


  • #35
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    MMFITWGDV wrote: »
    OT - Sorry, but ...

    I know RAID isn't a backup, but it does give some resilience to disk failures. I'd prefer to lose a bit of space so I don't have to worry about losing a disk with all of the data on it.

    @bk - granted in your scenario RAID would have made your life much more difficult.

    My approach is to have RAID on my NAS, but I keep all critical and volatile data backed up to the cloud and have the non-volatile stuff on disconnected external drives.

    Oh I agree, and that is one of the reasons I'm using a NAS. RAID can certainly add redundancy (it is in the name after all ;) and can certainly play an important part of a 3-2-1 backup strategy. However it is definitely not the silver bullet of backups that some people assume it is.

    This is about the third time I've had a serious issue with my NAS. Problems with dodgy disks and the older Arm QNAP NAS's are just badly designed and RAID 5 and dodgy firmware can just end up creating far more headaches then a simpler setup.

    I've never lost data, but you need to be an expert to fix them and it just takes so blooming long!

    My backup strategy is similar to yours. Everything on a NAS, with about 2/3rds on external HDD's and cloud services (the most important stuff), but I didn't have enough external HDD's for the last, least important, 1/3rd, so now I'm spending ages copying that off.

    BTW also be careful of external HDD's if they are kept in the same building as your NAS. They are no help if you suffer a fire, flood or burglary.

    My dream setup is:
    - Home Intel Based NAS, 6 to 8 drives in RAID 6
    - Parents house, old arm NAS (4 disks RAID 5) acting as a backup of the Home NAS.
    - Cloud backups of most important stuff (projects, home photos and videos, etc.)

    Just need €€€€ for such a setup now, donations welcome :D

    BTW for normal people I recommend a simpler setup of a two disk RAID 1 (mirroring) NAS. Far less expensive, complicated and time consuming.


  • #36
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RAID has advantages but it's of little use in a small scale domestic environment.


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  • #37
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bk wrote: »
    I've a QNAP TS430 myself, so in the same boat, I use a Mac Mini in conjunction with it for Plex streaming and transcoding.

    I agree, but you have the work out the cost of a new Intel CPU NAS versus the cost of the extra power used by an old PC you might have laying around. Of course it completely depends on the power usage of the PC.

    My Mac Mini is pretty low powered and I already had it, so I worked out that it would take about 30 years for a new NAS to pay back for itself in power savings.

    Worth doing the maths on it before splurging on a new NAS.

    Plex works fine with dynamic IP's. It uses an account and a free cloud service to ensure plex clients can attach to the Plex server even behind dynamic IP's etc.




    Haha, it feels like you are reading my mind! While I can't justify a new intel NAS based on power savings, I have been toying with the idea of putting the old one in my parents house as a backup and buying a new intel one for home.

    And yes, you are absolutely correct about RAID not being a backup. Just last week the firmware on my QNAP got messed up! I've spent the last week copying everything off it to external USB HDD's over scp, super slow and painful! *

    * I actually already had all important stuff already backed up, only non essential stuff wasn't backed up, but I'd still rather not lose it all still.

    It's years since I've had a PC and I've no other machine capable of the task and I wouldn't use the Macbook for this.

    I discovered there's a plex plugin for Kodi, but I still got the problem where the NAS doesn't have the power to transcode. But if it worked it would at least solve the static IP problem.

    The Qnap TS 251+ now has a quad core celeron which might be up to the task of on-the-fly transcoding of 1080p ? Expensive buggers though.

    You'd build a PC for that but it would be a lot more power hungry, but at least I got the advantage of night rate leccy for the car. I don;t really want a PC.


  • #38
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I created a new thread here.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=99973861#post99973861


  • #39
    JohnC.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,559 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    What is involved with an FTTC install, at the customer end, not the exchange? I've booked an upgrade and I assumed it would basically be a modem swap at my end. But the confirmation e-mail mentions "the technician will upgrade your phone connection for Fibre Broadband" (changing the master socket?) and mentions the possibility of new wiring from there to the modem.

    Does this mean the phone line from the master socket to the current modem gets replaced with something else or could the current line be fine and they're covering themselves for other circumstances?


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The socket will be changed, other than that not much else will change provided the line is ok, they will want access to wherever the line comes in to make sure if it's split that it's done properly.

    In my Mothers the job was done in 30 mins or less, for me it was 3.5 hrs because there was some issue with the line.


  • #41
    pegasus1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    JohnC. wrote: »
    What is involved with an FTTC install, at the customer end, not the exchange? I've booked an upgrade and I assumed it would basically be a modem swap at my end. But the confirmation e-mail mentions "the technician will upgrade your phone connection for Fibre Broadband" (changing the master socket?) and mentions the possibility of new wiring from there to the modem.

    Does this mean the phone line from the master socket to the current modem gets replaced with something else or could the current line be fine and they're covering themselves for other circumstances?
    How is the existing phone line brought into your house?
    If overhead and through a window..more than likely they will run the fibre through your wall, with perhaps a box on the outside wall and on the inside wall right behind the outside box, they will stick your new modem there...

    If going underground through a duct and your master socket is on an inside wall in the hallway etc.they will want to pull that fibre through the duct and hopefully will be able to pull it to your master socket, if duct is blocked or they cant pull it to the master socket or even not be able to pull it into postition on an inside of an external wall then they will ask you to to get someone in to make a route from their duct to your internal point..

    Your master socket will be changed and if your modem is on an extenstion socket then new cable will have to be run to your modem, probably by yourself getting someone to do it..

    Good luck you lucky bugger!!


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  • #42
    ItHurtsWhenIP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    pegasus1 wrote: »
    How is the existing phone line brought into your house?
    If overhead and through a window..more than likely they will run the fibre through your wall, with perhaps a box on the outside wall and on the inside wall right behind the outside box, they will stick your new modem there...

    If going underground through a duct and your master socket is on an inside wall in the hallway etc.they will want to pull that fibre through the duct and hopefully will be able to pull it to your master socket, if duct is blocked or they cant pull it to the master socket or even not be able to pull it into postition on an inside of an external wall then they will ask you to to get someone in to make a route from their duct to your internal point..

    Your master socket will be changed and if your modem is on an extenstion socket then new cable will have to be run to your modem, probably by yourself getting someone to do it..

    Good luck you lucky bugger!!

    This seems to be an FTTC install and not FTTH (it's in the thread title too), so no pulling in new cabling. Just changing the master socket.


  • #43
    pegasus1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭pegasus1


    MMFITWGDV wrote: »
    This seems to be an FTTC install and not FTTH (it's in the thread title too), so no pulling in new cabling. Just changing the master socket.
    Opps my bad! :o

    The word fibre through me off....stoopid marketing


  • #44
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    If you tried for a new phone number would you get a line that's connected to the cabinet? I skimmed over a lot of the thread as it was irrelevant so apologies if it has been suggested already.


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jca wrote: »
    If you tried for a new phone number would you get a line that's connected to the cabinet? I skimmed over a lot of the thread as it was irrelevant so apologies if it has been suggested already.

    That's a good question. Though I suppose all they'd do is apply the new number to the same line.


  • #46
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    No harm to try I suppose.


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