Racist Chinese Detergent Ad

c montgomery · 29-05-2016 07:50PM

Hilarious ad, should be more like it

darkpagandeath · 29-05-2016 08:15PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

That's very racist.

If it had just shown the black guy turning Chinese you might be able to put it down to old-fashioned humour and cultural differences about representing race (e.g. there would be issues and public discussions about representations of black people in China).

But the kicker is that she's only happy with him when he's Chinese. Him being black was a problem for her.

It's really racist, and it's disingenuous to suggest it's not.

Could you find an example of someone reacting to this ad in such a manner? Just so your satire makes sense.
It might be hard though, as there aren't many safe spaces on campuses around the world.

Or ... Or that they guy was filthy dirty covered in paint ?

c montgomery · 29-05-2016 08:22PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

That's very racist.

If it had just shown the black guy turning Chinese you might be able to put it down to old-fashioned humour and cultural differences about representing race (e.g. there would be issues and public discussions about representations of black people in China).

But the kicker is that she's only happy with him when he's Chinese. Him being black was a problem for her.

It's really racist, and it's disingenuous to suggest it's not.

Could you find an example of someone reacting to this ad in such a manner? Just so your satire makes sense.
It might be hard though, as there aren't many safe spaces on campuses around the world.

Maybe she just has a type and the first guy was not it.

The King of Moo · 29-05-2016 08:39PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Or ... Or that they guy was filthy dirty covered in paint ?

That's the first thing I noticed too.

c montgomery wrote: »

Maybe she just has a type and the first guy was not it.

I'd even go as far as to say that race clearly isn't a factor in the ad at all, and anyone reading that into it is a PC Liberal Sicko!
He clearly has a better personality after being in the washing machine.

darkpagandeath · 29-05-2016 08:43PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

That's the first thing I noticed too.

I'd even go as far as to say that race clearly isn't a factor in the ad at all, and anyone reading that into it is a PC Liberal Sicko!
He clearly has a better personality after being in the washing machine.

Aye, I worry about some people's grip on reality. Washing powder cannot change your skin tone so black guy goes in and then a Chinese guy comes out. Clearly not racist as it's impossible for a start. I think people clearly have some kind of American issue with tying blackface to everything.

biko · 29-05-2016 08:55PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGWsMac4iKQ

Eugene Norman · 29-05-2016 09:00PM

biko wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGWsMac4iKQ

Not very relevant.

That said I don't really believe that westerners look the same in the same way that Koreans do, I mean skin colour, eye colour, hair colour, nose shape, even facial shape are more widely divergent.

Assume that's a joke.

Anyway the add was racist. Also that detergent causes severe shrinkage.

RIGHTisRIGHT · 29-05-2016 09:07PM

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

A great bunch of Lads.

I like it let PC go to Hell.

rubadub · 29-05-2016 09:47PM

Its a copy of a 10 year old Italian ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQs3nl0LcY

RIGHTisRIGHT · 29-05-2016 09:51PM

rubadub wrote: »

Its a copy of a 10 year old Italian ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQs3nl0LcY

Well spotted.

Funny the left wing don't call that racist.

darkpagandeath · 29-05-2016 09:53PM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Well spotted.

Funny the left wing don't call that racist.

Aye as it's a white guy to black.... :pac:

29-05-2016 09:55PM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Not very relevant.

That said I don't really believe that westerners look the same in the same way that Koreans do, I mean skin colour, eye colour, hair colour, nose shape, even facial shape are more widely divergent.

Assume that's a joke.

Anyway the add was racist. Also that detergent causes severe shrinkage.

I've been in Asia, Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia , Thailand.
No one could tell the difference in us western girls, looking at our passports.
In fact, me ( dark hair, late 30s at the time) & another girl ( blond, 20's & fairly overweight) got mixed up for each other, a LOT!
Oh and she wears glasses, 24/7.

RIGHTisRIGHT · 29-05-2016 09:56PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Aye as it's a white guy to black.... :pac:

Never a better time to say anti racist is a code word for anti white.
Now look at this thread die a death.

The King of Moo · 29-05-2016 10:02PM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Well spotted.

Funny the left wing don't call that racist.

A lot of "left-wing" people would call that racist. It plays up ancient stereotypes about the objectified virile black male whose only value is his physical strength. It wouldn't be out of place in plantation-era USA. If they had TV ads for detergent then.

Is it racist against white men? One can find a touch of prejudice, sure, but whiteness is so ubiquitously presented as an assumed norm that I don't think anyone would see the ad as commenting on white men as a whole.

RIGHTisRIGHT · 29-05-2016 10:05PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

A lot of "left-wing" people would call that racist. It plays up ancient stereotypes about the objectified virile black male whose only value is his physical strength. It wouldn't be out of place in plantation-era USA. If they had TV ads for detergent then.

Is it racist against white men? One can find a touch of prejudice, sure, but whiteness is so ubiquitously presented as an assumed norm that I don't think anyone would see the ad as commenting on white men as a whole.

So different strokes for different folks the left wing notion of equality on full display.
Only whites can be racist right?

The King of Moo · 29-05-2016 11:03PM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

So different strokes for different folks the left wing notion of equality on full display.
Only whites can be racist right?

Actually, basically, yeah!

Cathy.C · 30-05-2016 07:00AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Only whites can be racist right?

The King of Moo wrote: »

Actually, basically, yeah!

What rubbish.

So you don't think this person was being racist or even this one?

The King of Moo · 30-05-2016 07:21AM

Cathy.C wrote: »

What rubbish.

So you don't think this person was being racist or even this one?

Strictly, no, they were probably being racially prejudiced.

pickarooney · 30-05-2016 08:09AM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Strictly, no, they were probably being racially prejudiced.

It was ethnic criticism

Eugene Norman · 30-05-2016 08:38AM

bubblypop wrote: »

I've been in Asia, Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia , Thailand.
No one could tell the difference in us western girls, looking at our passports.
In fact, me ( dark hair, late 30s at the time) & another girl ( blond, 20's & fairly overweight) got mixed up for each other, a LOT!
Oh and she wears glasses, 24/7.

Did they think you changed hair colour and put on and lost weight and years everyday?

I don't buy it. If identical twins have different hair cuts you can tell them apart.

Eugene Norman · 30-05-2016 08:42AM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Strictly, no, they were probably being racially prejudiced.

This whole racism is about prejudice and power stuff is nonsense. It also ignores Azealia Banks' American privilege and power.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 30-05-2016 08:48AM

Aw come on, it's sort of funny

Wibbs · 30-05-2016 08:50AM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

That said I don't really believe that westerners look the same in the same way that Koreans do, I mean skin colour, eye colour, hair colour, nose shape, even facial shape are more widely divergent.

Actually race blindness is a well researched phenomenon. Yes caucasians would be the most phenotyically diverse broad population types on the planet, but other populations vary a lot. European variability just seems more obvious to European eyes. Maybe that's one reason it was selected for? Obvious external difference like eye and hair colour and texture to signify internal genetic diversity in small populations at risk of inbreeding way back in the day?

Actually E, you're illustrating "race blindness" yourself. Sure natural eye and hair colour varies more among Europeans right down to countries, cities, even within the same family, but if you look at that video those Korean folks look radically different from each other. Large diversity in facial shape, nose etc. They couldn't look more unalike from each other. Interesting that one of the Korean lasses when looking at the photos remarks and is disappointed that they all have the same eye colour. She has learned that if you get stuck with European faces, go to the eye colour as they're more diverse there.

There are even subtle ways we read faces across populations. We see this in something as now mundane as smilies. If you look at Western smilies they tend to focus on mouth shape(and are rotated), whereas Asian smilies tend to focus on eye shape. EG :-) as opposed to ^_^

Racist ad? I have found the native Chinese and Japanese I've known to be a little less "politically correct" than the usual level in Western cultures. Maybe that's where it comes from? I would bet few Chinese living in China would raise an eyebrow at the ad.

scream · 30-05-2016 08:51AM

It's an ad in a country an awfully long way away and it isn't real, why do people get so butt hurt about it? It isn't as if they actually put a black man in a washing machine. It must be exhausting being so outraged about so many things all of the time.

Eugene Norman · 30-05-2016 08:57AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Actually race blindness is a well researched phenomenon. Yes caucasians would be the most phenotyically diverse broad population types on the planet, but other populations vary a lot. European variability just seems more obvious to European eyes. Maybe that's one reason it was selected for? Obvious external difference like eye and hair colour and texture to signify internal genetic diversity in small populations at risk of inbreeding way back in the day?

Actually E, you're illustrating "race blindness" yourself. Sure natural eye and hair colour varies more among Europeans right down to countries, cities, even within the same family, but if you look at that video those Korean folks look radically different from each other. Large diversity in facial shape, nose etc. They couldn't look more unalike from each other. Interesting that one of the Korean lasses when looking at the photos remarks and is disappointed that they all have the same eye colour. She has learned that if you get stuck with European faces, go to the eye colour as they're more diverse there.

There are even subtle ways we read faces across populations. We see this in something as now mundane as smilies. If you look at Western smilies they tend to focus on mouth shape(and are rotated), whereas Asian smilies tend to focus on eye shape. EG :-) as opposed to ^_^

Racist ad? I have found the native Chinese and Japanese I've known to be a little less "politically correct" than the usual level in Western cultures. Maybe that's where it comes from? I would bet few Chinese living in China would raise an eyebrow at the ad.

I'm not saying that I can't tell Asians apart though. I can. And I rely on face structure. Since eye colour and hair colour aren't helpful.

However they are useful differentiators. I went to school with two identical twins, it was impossible to tell them apart until at age 16 one girl changed her hair colour and then we could.

These aren't the only larger differences in Europeans, for instance nose shape is also more variable.

Eugene Norman · 30-05-2016 08:59AM

scream wrote: »

It's an ad in a country an awfully long way away and it isn't real, why do people get so butt hurt about it? It isn't as if they actually put a black man in a washing machine. It must be exhausting being so outraged about so many things all of the time.

There's more outrage at the lack of outrage.

whisky_galore · 30-05-2016 09:00AM

China doesn't have the same notion of 'racism' as the Western world.

Go to some parts of China as an ordinary white westerner and prepared to become the object of intense curiousity.

snotboogie · 30-05-2016 09:10AM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Wibbs wrote: »

Actually race blindness is a well researched phenomenon. Yes caucasians would be the most phenotyically diverse broad population types on the planet, but other populations vary a lot. European variability just seems more obvious to European eyes. Maybe that's one reason it was selected for? Obvious external difference like eye and hair colour and texture to signify internal genetic diversity in small populations at risk of inbreeding way back in the day?

Actually E, you're illustrating "race blindness" yourself. Sure natural eye and hair colour varies more among Europeans right down to countries, cities, even within the same family, but if you look at that video those Korean folks look radically different from each other. Large diversity in facial shape, nose etc. They couldn't look more unalike from each other. Interesting that one of the Korean lasses when looking at the photos remarks and is disappointed that they all have the same eye colour. She has learned that if you get stuck with European faces, go to the eye colour as they're more diverse there.

There are even subtle ways we read faces across populations. We see this in something as now mundane as smilies. If you look at Western smilies they tend to focus on mouth shape(and are rotated), whereas Asian smilies tend to focus on eye shape. EG :-) as opposed to ^_^

Racist ad? I have found the native Chinese and Japanese I've known to be a little less "politically correct" than the usual level in Western cultures. Maybe that's where it comes from? I would bet few Chinese living in China would raise an eyebrow at the ad.

I'm not saying that I can't tell Asians apart though. I can. And I rely on face structure. Since eye colour and hair colour aren't helpful.

However they are useful differentiators. I went to school with two identical twins, it was impossible to tell them apart until at age 16 one girl changed her hair colour and then we could.

These aren't the only larger differences in Europeans, for instance nose shape is also more variable.

Skin color varies a lot more among Asians, there are much more obvious differences between a Korean and a Filipino than there are between an Irishman and a Spaniard.

Eugene Norman · 30-05-2016 09:38AM

snotboogie wrote: »

Skin color varies a lot more among Asians, there are much more obvious differences between a Korean and a Filipino than there are between an Irishman and a Spaniard.

I didn't say skin colour in the post you responded to. Of course Koreans are totally different from Filipinos. And nobody would make that mistake.

whisky_galore · 30-05-2016 09:44AM

snotboogie wrote: »

Skin color varies a lot more among Asians, there are much more obvious differences between a Korean and a Filipino than there are between an Irishman and a Spaniard.

Skin colour matters a lot to say, Thais, Japanese, and no doubt Chinese as well.

A lighter more European skin colour is considered more desirable than a darker tone. Darker skin is associated with poorer people who work in fields all day. There's a big market for skin lightening creams and cosmetics.

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