Cork GAA Discussion Thread

clerk · 22-05-2016 08:42PM

zetecescort wrote: »

desperately disappointing but today was coming and many more to come. .... it will be 10 years before we get anywhere near Liam again.

sure we might win a game or 2 in the qualifiers but the future is very bleak. Gone from winning back to back All Irelands and contesting 2 more to the worst team in Munster in 12 years.

The scary thing is l wasn't even that disappointed with the result, it was basically what l was expecting.

Tipp are miles ahead of us...as you say Cork are "worst team in Munster" and as for defeats like today they are "many more to come".

The_Kew_Tour · 22-05-2016 08:57PM

And we are no question the 5th team in Munster. We are 2 gears behind Limerick or Waterford, easily.

I love championship · 22-05-2016 09:14PM

This is the first time I have seen them after playing so bad that I didn't blame tactics, fight, spirit, management or county board the truth is our ability is just not good enough the tipp players are miles ahead of us on all hurling skills of first touch, fielding, passing, shouting, tackling. The idea we have fantastic wristie hurlers with speed is false. Alan cad our best player today possibly or only good player today didn't have the speed to get away from his man. Hoggy or most skill full hurler didn't get a look in. Or most physical player damo cal was beat up all day. But what prob annoyed me the most was our passing. Either short passing to a man being marked by 2 players or long balls into space or half a meter from the side line the players had to run onto. Only positive was I think was sully trained them well at not letting them in for goal.

eigrod · 23-05-2016 09:03AM

Diabolical.

The only hope is that we have now bottomed out and the only way is up. There's going to be more pain like yesterday first though....probably about 5 years of it.

Rightwing · 23-05-2016 06:27PM

Far too much doom and gloom here. Cork are a Div 1A team.

danganabu · 23-05-2016 06:49PM

Rightwing wrote: »

Far too much doom and gloom here. Cork are a Div 1A team.

In name only to be fair, the other 4 teams in Munster are ahead of them and KK and Galway too, to be honest they would struggle against Dublin on yesterdays evidence.

I love championship · 23-05-2016 08:27PM

danganabu wrote: »

In name only to be fair, the other 4 teams in Munster are ahead of them and KK and Galway too, to be honest they would struggle against Dublin on yesterdays evidence.

Your dreamin if you think we are as good as Dublin they are in a much better position than us.

ShamoBuc · 23-05-2016 09:22PM

danganabu wrote: »

In name only to be fair, the other 4 teams in Munster are ahead of them and KK and Galway too, to be honest they would struggle against Dublin on yesterdays evidence.

I reckon Kerry would give us a good game.

That sentence says it all about the state of Cork hurling!!

Dublin are way ahead of us, make no mistake about it.

Rightwing · 23-05-2016 09:36PM

danganabu wrote: »

In name only to be fair, the other 4 teams in Munster are ahead of them and KK and Galway too, to be honest they would struggle against Dublin on yesterdays evidence.

Tipp are way ahead od Cork, could smash them for 20+ points. But I think Tipp are the best in the country.

Cork would beat Wex/Offaly/Dub.

Then against LK/Waterford/Galway it would go either way. KK and Clare would hae about 8+ points to spare.

ShamoBuc · 23-05-2016 09:48PM

Rightwing wrote: »

Tipp are way ahead od Cork, could smash them for 20+ points. But I think Tipp are the best in the country.

Cork would beat Wex/Offaly/Dub.

Then against LK/Waterford/Galway it would go either way. KK and Clare would hae about 8+ points to spare.

I would not be confident of a win against Wexford,/Offaly, I really couldn't see us beat Dublin.

Rightwing · 23-05-2016 09:51PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I would not be confident of a win against Wexford,/Offaly, I really couldn't see us beat Dublin.

Disappointing to see cork fall so much, could be the next limerick.

Summer isn't over though, ye'll do a number on someone, no question about that.

Dick phelan · 23-05-2016 10:34PM

Rightwing wrote: »

Tipp are way ahead od Cork, could smash them for 20+ points. But I think Tipp are the best in the country.

Cork would beat Wex/Offaly/Dub.

Then against LK/Waterford/Galway it would go either way. KK and Clare would hae about 8+ points to spare.

I'm sorry i admire the optimism but games with Waterford, Limerick, Galway or Dublin would not go either way, Cork are a poor side, you don't loose 5 games in the league for no reason, yes they stayed up by winning the playoffs but Cork hurling has been in trouble for a while, JBM did a remarkable job winning Munster and making an AI final, Cork hurling is in trouble by far the 5th team in Munster and i'd be shocked if they beat Dublin or Galway in the championship.

The_Kew_Tour · 23-05-2016 10:36PM

We would beat Offaly, get game against Kerry but still win, same with wexford, but after that we are behind the rest. In top 3 or 4 teams a way behind.

boggerman1 · 23-05-2016 11:02PM

Rightwing wrote: »

Far too much doom and gloom here. Cork are a Div 1A team.

Is that u Frank?

Figsy32 · 23-05-2016 11:03PM

Dick phelan wrote: »

I'm sorry i admire the optimism but games with Waterford, Limerick, Galway or Dublin would not go either way, Cork are a poor side, you don't loose 5 games in the league for no reason, yes they stayed up by winning the playoffs but Cork hurling has been in trouble for a while, JBM did a remarkable job winning Munster and making an AI final, Cork hurling is in trouble by far the 5th team in Munster and i'd be shocked if they beat Dublin or Galway in the championship.

Rightwing is a Limerick poster!

I don't think what we saw yesterday is any different to the team we've seen the last 2 years. It's a team capable of taking scalps when they're at 100% intensity and skill level (Kilkenny 2013, Limerick and Clare 2014, and Clare last year). However they're terribly inconsistent and when they're not at that level and revert to what their usual standard of hurling is they get absolutely clipped like Tipp in 2014 and Galway last year.

For what it's worth I think we're at a similar level to Limerick and Dublin. We beat the teams below that level comfortably enough and lose to the other 5 comfortably. We could have a good day where we could beat Clare (the way the teams match up is good for Cork's style IMO) and on a bad day Wexford could give us a scare.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 24-05-2016 02:17AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

We would beat Offaly, get game against Kerry but still win, same with wexford, but after that we are behind the rest. In top 3 or 4 teams a way behind.

Cork would comfortably beat Offaly, Kerry and Wexford.

See what happens in the Qualifiers, you could go on a run yet. Recent history hasn't been all doom and gloom, ye should have won the first final in 2013 and could have easily got to another final in 14. Put the league and Sunday aside now and push on for the rest of the summer.

Bonniedog · 24-05-2016 02:30AM

HillFarmer wrote: »

Just threw a few bob on ye to beat Tip the weekend.

Don't think this Cork team are as bad as people have been making out, yes inconsistent but also well capable of putting it up to most teams on their day.

Defensively they were shocking throughout the league but I expect them to have a sweeper for tipp and have by all accounts put a lot of work in over the last few months since Galway.

I got 11/4 so happy enough, looking forward to it.

jaysus. I wish I was your bookmaker

Bonniedog · 24-05-2016 02:31AM

Figsy32 wrote: »

Rightwing is a Limerick poster!

I don't think what we saw yesterday is any different to the team we've seen the last 2 years. It's a team capable of taking scalps when they're at 100% intensity and skill level (Kilkenny 2013, Limerick and Clare 2014, and Clare last year). However they're terribly inconsistent and when they're not at that level and revert to what their usual standard of hurling is they get absolutely clipped like Tipp in 2014 and Galway last year.

For what it's worth I think we're at a similar level to Limerick and Dublin. We beat the teams below that level comfortably enough and lose to the other 5 comfortably. We could have a good day where we could beat Clare (the way the teams match up is good for Cork's style IMO) and on a bad day Wexford could give us a scare.

Did you miss the league game? At similar level to Dublin? Seriously.....

Figsy32 · 24-05-2016 08:55AM

Bonniedog wrote: »

Did you miss the league game? At similar level to Dublin? Seriously.....

Yes seriously. In a championship game I'd think it would be a couple points either way between us. A one off league result doesn't mean a whole pile. We came within an inch of beating Kilkenny in the league but that doesn't mean we're just as good as them. Sure the year before we smashed Dublin in a similar manner in the league with pretty much an identical squad. They're two flaky teams who can both go to absolute pieces on a given day. I don't see anything over the last two years that would put one over the other to any massive degree.

willietherock · 25-05-2016 08:13PM

Anyone know if the entrance into Delaneys GAA is through the industrial estate or down the Old Mallow Rd?

ShamoBuc · 25-05-2016 08:18PM

willietherock wrote: »

Anyone know if the entrance into Delaneys GAA is through the industrial estate or down the Old Mallow Rd?

Go up Dublin hill, past kilbarry industrial estate, next left, there's a sign post.

willietherock · 25-05-2016 08:33PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Go up Dublin hill, past kilbarry industrial estate, next left, there's a sign post.

Is that next left just past the entrance to the estate?

ShamoBuc · 25-05-2016 08:44PM

willietherock wrote: »

Is that next left just past the entrance to the estate?

Yeah, drive pass the entrance to the estate. About 100 yards beyond it, where the road levels out there is a left turn, a long straight road, you won't miss it.

willietherock · 25-05-2016 09:23PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Yeah, drive pass the entrance to the estate. About 100 yards beyond it, where the road levels out there is a left turn, a long straight road, you won't miss it.

Cheers. Just checking as google maps doesn't show it.

ShamoBuc · 25-05-2016 09:31PM

willietherock wrote: »

Cheers. Just checking as google maps doesn't show it.

Trust me, it's there, Delany's is my club, I know where it is.

We tried for 20 years to get proper access from Dublin Hill, the road was tarmacced and a footpath put in a few years ago.

pakie ed · 25-05-2016 09:49PM

Cork players feel the pain of last sunday, we the supporters need to back them. They are still our team.

ShamoBuc · 25-05-2016 10:00PM

pakie ed wrote: »

Cork players feel the pain of last sunday, we the supporters need to back them. They are still our team.

Of course they are still our team. But at the moment, they are not at the races, as supporters, we must call a spade a spade also.

DuffleBag · 26-05-2016 08:30AM

I hear Daniel Kearney threw the toys out of the pram after the weekend and left the panel?

Horse84 · 26-05-2016 08:15PM

DuffleBag wrote: »

I hear Daniel Kearney threw the toys out of the pram after the weekend and left the panel?

Not according to Kearney

DuffleBag · 26-05-2016 09:09PM

Horse84 wrote: »

Not according to Kearney

Excellent! Refreshing that a player has gone online to dispel these kinda rumours

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