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Why are there so few "weird" Irish people compared to in the US?

  • 16-05-2016 11:50AM
    #1
    Thomas24
    Site Banned Posts: 2 ✭


    I've gone to school and lived in the US and here for about the same time. What I find interesting is that the US has a lot more weird people.

    Now you'll all be saying "We have knackers, scum teens etc" but almost all of these people you can agree don't fit into society. They are seen as outcasts. Scum teens tend to drop out of school, get into drinking, pregnancy, drugs and can't do anything productive.

    In America the weird people are considered to be nihilist, misanthropists, conspiracy theorists, sociopaths but these does not generally impede their ability to be a successful member of society. e.g Donald Trump :D

    From personal experience have never more than 1 sociopath in Ireland at the workplace. I knew 2 guys in my former community school here who were sociopaths and learned later that they ended up in jail. . In America that's definitely not the same story.

    So is it population size, different cultures etc?


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  • #2
    imitation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭imitation


    Population size I would guess, combined with the fact there seems to be poor mental health facilities for low income people.

    Also as a nation we are as about as cynical as they come..


  • #3
    Niemoj
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Niemoj


    Island of Ireland: 6.5m-ish.

    'Murica: 323m+.

    You're bound to encounter more diverse people groups with such huge numbers like 'Murica has.


  • #4
    Rothko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,994 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Because America is a lot larger


  • #5
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    its the lack of a Wallmart here. If you google "people of wallmart" and people of Tesco , completely different....

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #6
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Well I've met one new weird person today.


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  • #7
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    silverharp wrote: »
    its the lack of a Wallmart here. If you google "people of wallmart" and people of Tesco , completely different....

    So you're saying Wallmart is manufacturing these strange individuals?


  • #8
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    Historically maybe a lot of the headers emigrated and the other less obvious headers stayed at home.

    Ireland is not short of headers at home or abroad.

    some headers might even be proud of this:eek::eek:


  • #9
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    In Ireland we have plenty of weirdos, they generally represent Kerry in the Dial.


  • #10
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    We have plenty of weirdos in this country.

    Go on any form of public transport in Ireland or go to any Irish city.

    Headcases aplenty.


  • #11
    the evasion_kid
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    I thinks it's part down to the drugs they do,lot of mentallers in new York seem to have crack and oxycontin addictions same as toronto. Remember walking home from work one day and some fella outside a church asked me had I any percs(percocets) he clearly wasn't the full shilling from doing them,his movements were all eratic and agitated. It might sound harsh but there a softer bunch over that direction,doesn't take much to happen in their lives to send them under.


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  • #12
    Baron Kurtz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    Niemoj wrote: »
    Island of Ireland: 6.5m-ish.

    'Murica: 323m+.

    You're bound to encounter more diverse people groups with such huge numbers like 'Murica has.


    Why are you writing it like that?:)


  • #13
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,125 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    You are just not going to the right places, go to Body & Soul Festival and Electric Picnic festival, Knockanstockan Festival, you will find Irish weirdness to the core.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #14
    FalconGirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    the evasion_kid wrote: »
    I thinks it's part down to the drugs they do,lot of mentallers in new York seem to have crack and oxycontin addictions same as toronto. Remember walking home from work one day and some fella outside a church asked me had I any percs(percocets) he clearly wasn't the full shilling from doing them,his movements were all eratic and agitated. It might sound harsh but there a softer bunch over that direction,doesn't take much to happen in their lives to send them under.

    I'd agree with that. They like their meds over there. They have pharmacies over there the same size of supermarkets over here.


  • #15
    Niemoj
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Niemoj


    Baron Kurtz wrote: »
    Why are you writing it like that?:)

    Like what?


  • #16
    5rtytry56
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    Taking a cold hard nosed business look, the kind of shops that "weirdos" visit don't really last any longer than 6 months. Most of the shops they visit are the "pop up" type, and nothing more.


  • #17
    Baron Kurtz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    Niemoj wrote: »
    Like what?

    The 'Murica thing.


  • #18
    the evasion_kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    I'd agree with that. They like their meds over there. They have pharmacies over there the same size of supermarkets over here.

    The doctors must be flicking and bouncing the pills off their foreheads when they enter their office,it's ridiculous,.the dive bar around the corner from were I lived was like a pharmaceutical black market with the patrons selling off their prescriptions.


  • #19
    The Backwards Man
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    We're just better than them.

    No offence Americans. :)


  • #20
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    Less chemtrails here.


  • #21
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Ireland was pretty sheltered up to about 25 years ago.

    There was not a great deal of cultural or ethnic diversity in Ireland at that time. The bar for 'unusual' may have been to watch cricket sometimes, never mind playing such a game. Mormons would have been regarded as nothing short of weird.

    If an Irish person went to the USA after having grown up with that level of localism during the 1990s or before, he or she could prepare to have their mind blown with exposure to different ethnicities, sports, etc.

    Or you could ask an American what they think of the homogeneity of Irish people, perhaps among Irish men more so than Irish women. One American woman told me that she thought that Irish men seemed to be hugely over-represented by skinny guys with similar short haircuts, similar shirts and jeans. Possibly somewhat unfair but maybe there was an element of truth to it, at the same time.


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  • #22
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Its the fluoride in the water making us all docile.


  • #23
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    traprunner wrote: »
    Less chemtrails here.

    Na, we're on one of the busiest flight paths in the world, if anything we should be moooooooorreeee looooooppppppyyyyyyy!


  • #24
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=576
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1076

    :rolleyes:

    And to a lesser extent...
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=572
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=457
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=151

    :pac:


  • #25
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,974 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Its the fluoride in the water making us all docile.

    We need to look after our bodily essence.


  • #26
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,293 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    I sometimes wonderif its due to the scale of the country, and it's population size?
    Its a lot easier to stand out in Ireland , and be considered "individual" than in America. All you have to do is perform a jumpy dance around a pint of Guinness and you get your 15 minutes of tv celebrity.
    In a vast landmass like America, those with a deep need to be noticed/understood have more difficulty, especially if they have no skills to allow them success.
    The transient nature of life in the States probably add to their feeling of insignificance and annoynamity.
    If you need to be noticed, your options are limited. Possibly one reason for the seemingly high occurance of mass shootings.?


  • #27
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    Here we might have 10 weirdos, doing rough maths you might get 1000 in the US with the same proportion. Those weirdos can form groups a lot easier.


  • #28
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    the heat over there sends them mad


  • #29
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »
    Here we might have 10 weirdos, doing rough maths you might get 1000 in the US with the same proportion. Those weirdos can form groups a lot easier.

    Ah. The much-vaunted Weirdo Accretion Theory?


  • #30
    Firefox11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭Firefox11


    osarusan wrote: »
    We need to look after our bodily essence.

    or sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids...


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  • #31
    L'Enfer du Nord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 587 ✭✭✭L'Enfer du Nord


    Traditionally a lot of our 'wiredos' emigrate, basically they cross a line and are encouraged to leave by their community, or they leave as of their own volition. Not so much true now as in the past tho.

    In the US they may move around internally and be attracted to certain cities but they seldom leave the country.

    I've noticed that a lot of our 'wiredos' are on the fringes of society anyway. They are generally unemployed. Much more Wierdos in the US in main stream jobs, well spoken, seemingly educated.

    As has been suggested it much easier in the US it's much easier for these to flit from place to place, group of 'friends' to group of 'friends' causing havoc.

    Mental health services probably aren't great of there either, more people who need help just end up on the streets. Napping here now too of course.


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