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When aren't you a Catholic?

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  • #272
    beach_walker
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    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I said being a Roman Catholic is a black and white issue.

    Exactly. Finally we can agree. Once you're baptised, you can consider yourself Catholic and the Church always will. Nice resolution to the thread!


  • #273
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    beach_walker wrote: »
    Exactly. Finally we can agree. Once you're baptised, you can consider yourself Catholic and the Church always will. Nice resolution to the thread!

    I was baptised and I'm not Catholic.


  • #274
    Speedwell
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    beach_walker wrote: »
    Exactly. Finally we can agree. Once you're baptised, you can consider yourself Catholic and the Church always will. Nice resolution to the thread!

    Once you're baptised, you mean, you can consider yourself Catholic or not, and the Church doesn't care one way or the other because it's already made up its mind and it's not changing it, don't confuse it with facts.


  • #275
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    If you're baptised catholic but then posthumously baptised a mormon, what happens?


  • #276
    Maximus Alexander
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    Nicolas Cage wrote: »
    If you're baptised catholic but then posthumously baptised a mormon, what happens?

    The pope and Thomas S. Monson have to do battle for your immortal soul.


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  • #277
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    In general I dont care what people call themselves, although saying that anyone can be a Catholic regardless of beliefs makes the statistic pointless. If 80% of the populations put Catholic down on the census all you can say is that 80% of people consider themselves and/or those they entered information for as Catholic. This only becomes a problem when people (often Catholics unsurprisingly) pull out this number to show their way goes as they are the majority. This 80% covers everything from those wanting a Democratic People's Catholic Republic of Ireland to Catholics who think all of the religious people should be rounded up into camps. It would take some serious mental gymnastics to claim that a majority of people in this country follow the RCC's teachings.
    beach_walker wrote: »
    Exactly. Finally we can agree. Once you're baptised, you can consider yourself Catholic and the Church always will. Nice resolution to the thread!

    So there are requirements to being a Catholic? I thought anyone could just call themselves Catholic and anyone who questioned them was an ignorant militant atheist.


  • #278
    realdanbreen
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    Walter Large Rhino wrote: »
    Right, well I'll take this as an admission of the strong likelihood of arrogant catholics imposing their religion on those who explicitly state they want nothing to do with it then.

    Really! I would take it as yet another guy with lukewarm principles.If I felt strongly about how my remains should be dealt with then I would ensure my wishes were carried out.


  • #279
    The_Valeyard
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    Nicolas Cage wrote: »
    If you're baptised catholic but then posthumously baptised a mormon, what happens?

    You may end up a star in a Broadway musical.


  • #280
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,586 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    I was baptised and I'm not Catholic.


    I know that non believers like everything simplified and explained to them bit by bit , just like you would with a child, but you do realise the poster meant he was baptised into the catholic church.


  • #281
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    I know that non believers like everything simplified and explained to them bit by bit , just like you would with a child, but you do realise the poster meant he was baptised into the catholic church.

    I know that believers aren't the best at critical thinking, and tend not to understand things even when they're spelled out clearly, but you do realise I meant I was baptised into the Catholic Church?


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  • #282
    hinault
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    Have you taken any of this up with the folk who had ye baptised?

    If not, why not?


  • #283
    mud
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    hinault wrote: »
    Have you taken any of this up with the folk who had ye baptised?

    If not, why not?

    I have. I was told that they were my parents and they assumed I would grow up in the faith because that was their faith and their parents' faith and so on and so forth.

    I would love to see baptism postponed until the person can make an informed decision for themselves.


  • #284
    hinault
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    Nicolas Cage wrote: »
    If you're baptised catholic but then posthumously baptised a mormon, what happens?

    Ask the Mormons would they baptise someone who's already been baptised?:rolleyes:


  • #285
    hinault
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    mud wrote: »
    I have. I was told that they were my parents and they assumed I would grow up in the faith because that was their faith and their parents' faith and so on and so forth.

    I would love to see baptism postponed until the person can make an informed decision for themselves.

    Your parents did their best for you.


  • #286
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    hinault wrote: »
    Have you taken any of this up with the folk who had ye baptised?

    If not, why not?

    Taken what up with them?


  • #287
    mud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭mud


    hinault wrote: »
    Your parents did their best for you.

    You asked a question and I answered and you come back with the above?

    What's your point?


  • #288
    hinault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    Taken what up with them?

    Why they had ye baptised.

    Have ye asked them?
    If you haven't, why?


  • #289
    hinault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    mud wrote: »
    You asked a question and I answered and you come back with the above?

    What's your point?

    I'm complimenting the work done by your parents. Is that a problem for you?


  • #290
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    hinault wrote: »
    Why they had ye baptised.

    Have ye asked them?
    If you haven't, why?

    There's no mystery as to why. Because they were catholics :confused:


  • #291
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    hinault wrote: »
    Have you taken any of this up with the folk who had ye baptised?

    If not, why not?

    It was to get into school. Came from a mixed marriage so religion was left up to me to decide when I was older.


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  • #292
    mud
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    hinault wrote: »
    I'm complimenting the work done by your parents. Is that a problem for you?

    That was a compliment? Ha ha ha ha ha. Good luck.


  • #293
    hinault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    There's no mystery as to why. Because they were catholics :confused:

    I didn't say that there was a mystery.

    If you object to being baptised Catholic, did you bring that objection up with the people who had you baptised.

    Did you tell your parents that you objected to their decision to have you baptised?
    If not why not?


  • #294
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    hinault wrote: »
    I didn't say that there was a mystery.

    If you object to being baptised Catholic, did you bring that objection up with the people who had you baptised.

    Did you tell your parents that you objected to their decision to have you baptised?
    If not why not?

    I don't object :confused: Somebody splashed some water on my head decades ago. It's a total irrelevance.


  • #295
    hinault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    I don't object :confused: Somebody splashed some water on my head decades ago. It's a total irrelevance.

    You were baptised Catholic.
    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    I was baptised and I'm not Catholic.


  • #296
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    I was yeah, we covered that.


  • #297
    hinault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    I was yeah, we covered that.

    The bit you didn't cover was - did you discuss with the people who had you baptised their reason for doing so.

    Did you discuss this with the people who had you baptised?


  • #298
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    hinault wrote: »
    The bit you didn't cover was - did you discuss with the people who had you baptised their reason for doing so.

    Did you discuss this with the people who had you baptised?

    I did indeed cover that.
    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    There's no mystery as to why. Because they were catholics :confused:


  • #299
    hinault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    I did indeed cover that.

    There's no mystery as to why. Because they were catholics

    Indeed you did not cover that.

    You didn't state whether or not you had discussed the reason for your being baptised with the people who had you baptised.

    At a guess, it appears that you didn't discuss your being baptised with the people who had you baptised.


  • #300
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Why not get to whatever the point is that you're trying to maneuver towards? The relevance of the question is wholly unclear.


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  • #301
    hinault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    Why not get to whatever the point is that you're trying to maneuver towards? The relevance of the question is wholly unclear.

    Whether or not you had discussed the reason for your being baptised with the people who had you baptised, is the point I'm trying to establish.

    For reasons best known to you, you can't confirm or deny whether you discussed this or not.


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