UFC 196: McGregor v Diaz

Subcomandante Marcos · 06-03-2016 08:34AM

Gamebred · 06-03-2016 08:37AM

Im Still here you BUMS :pac:

Firstly well done to Nate,I was a fan for donkeys years (I have but it went out the window for the scheduled 2 mins,he is a true martial artist and warrior took everything Conor had with a plump and kept going,his volume style of boxing and power I underestimated,(all this on 10 days notice)

Secondly to the morons who believe every promo Conor cuts that finally have their first day in 3 years they've been waiting on,fire away I've had my fun for years now December was really the cherry on top of it all,so do your best bring back every quote he made and post it up with a few smiley faces,

thirdly on the actual fight,the muppets thinking his ground game lost him the fight please go and educate yourselves he was a beaten man shooting in desperation a panic wrestle move if you will,also saying he needs to leave sbg and so on,give your head a shake it got him to the pinnacle of mma koing a p4p great to win gold,4 world title fights he won,

I feel a combination of Nates good boxing and chin,Conors winding up trying for that one big ko and the pace of the fight sealed his faith,simple wasnt good enough his lack of power was evident,he landed flush plenty of times that would ko any 145er argubaly a lot of 155ers but it wasnt to be Diaz the better mixed martial artist simple,

Hopefully the McGOAT war wagon has lost some of the bandwagoners now and we go again STILL FW undisputed World Champion dont forget it!

WAR MCGREGOR

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John_D80 · 06-03-2016 08:38AM

Miesha barely has a mark on her. Conor sitting down now. With the belt! Champ!

irishguy1983 · 06-03-2016 08:44AM

I'm no expert but I thought Conor looked a bit casual from the start.

Even in that moment just before a fight I didn't see Conor doing his usual moving about just before the bell rings.

I thought he really struggled and couldn't seem to reach Nate at all with his punches -the height of Nate seemed to trouble.

Any truth in they folks?

Amazingfun · 06-03-2016 08:46AM

Awww, he said he is heartbroken

shrewdness · 06-03-2016 08:47AM

Looks like Anik is keeping his word about the tattoo!

https://twitter.com/Jon_Anik/status/706363436897275904

John_D80 · 06-03-2016 08:54AM

I'm getting the vibe off Diaz that he seems to think he's on another level now. Gonna be trouble in paradise when he realises that he's not really the new star of the show and he's back on a 75/75 contract.

Muahahaha · 06-03-2016 08:54AM

John_D80 wrote: »

So you dont think that SBG as a gym and Ireland as a nation have been hugely successful in the UFC already?

Do you realise how many MMA gyms/clubs there are out there that have never had, and never will have fighters in the UFC?? Not to mention having a champion???

We are a tiny nation of 4 million people and we have one of only ten ufc world champions. In fact I would say per head of population we possibly have more UFC champions than any other nation on earth.

Thats pretty impressive in anyones book.

Good point. Its easy to forget that Ireland only has 4.5m people whereas the US has 300m and Brazil 200m. Those countries have much larger populations than Ireland

dodzy · 06-03-2016 08:56AM

Any link folks to an online replay? Just out of the pit now!

newbbieb · 06-03-2016 09:04AM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Good point. Its easy to forget that Ireland only has 4.5m people whereas the US has 300m and Brazil 200m. Those countries have much larger populations than Ireland

Agree and disagree Conor has lead the way and unfortunately John Kavanagh is his coach,off course thats a plus and minus in that maybe he has led Conor towards this inevitable downfall while also doing well.

He has made a lot of money,and that for me is the consolation in this story but Conor showed tonight he still is super talented,just isn't super-coached.If he had an even half brained coach he wouldn't have tried to jump to 170 to fight a big LW like Diaz who cuts from 190 and will easily outweigh him.

This is what pisses me off the most,i can accept if he is not good enough but tonight it boiled down to Conor being too small and Nate being too big,Conor dominated him but Nate was just too big for him and Conors coaches bear some responsiblity in this for allowing this fight to happen.

raze_them_all_ · 06-03-2016 09:04AM

John_D80 wrote: »

I'm getting the vibe off Diaz that he seems to think he's on another level now. Gonna be trouble in paradise when he realises that he's not really the new star of the show and he's back on a 75/75 contract.

Diaz is in a stronger position now, I'd say he'll be getting a pay bump next fight

Tilikum · 06-03-2016 09:05AM

Reading this thread the last few days was hard work. The amount of people giving Diaz no chance was a joke. And now we'll have to read nothing but excuses about the difference in size.
It's ok when it's the other way round though.

Subcomandante Marcos · 06-03-2016 09:06AM

People blaming Kavanagh for this needs to take a seat and have a chat with themselves.

John_D80 · 06-03-2016 09:07AM

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Diaz is in a stronger position now, I'd say he'll be getting a pay bump next fight

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He will but nowhere near what he thinks he'll get. Unfortunate truth for him, as much as I like him, he's not a company man like some and it goes against him.

I think he was on 50/50 or something like that. He wont get much more than 100/100 next time around i reckon.

Subcomandante Marcos · 06-03-2016 09:08AM

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Diaz is in a stronger position now, I'd say he'll be getting a pay bump next fight

Another headline fight with a 500k/500k payday, a percentage of PPV and a shot at a tittle I reckon.

Andre 3000 · 06-03-2016 09:08AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Im Still here you BUMS :pac:

Firstly well done to Nate,I was a fan for donkeys years (I have but it went out the window for the scheduled 2 mins,he is a true martial artist and warrior took everything Conor had with a plump and kept going,his volume style of boxing and power I underestimated,(all this on 10 days notice)

Secondly to the morons who believe every promo Conor cuts that finally have their first day in 3 years they've been waiting on,fire away I've had my fun for years now December was really the cherry on top of it all,so do your best bring back every quote he made and post it up with a few smiley faces,

thirdly on the actual fight,the muppets thinking his ground game lost him the fight please go and educate yourselves he was a beaten man shooting in desperation a panic wrestle move if you will,also saying he needs to leave sbg and so on,give your head a shake it got him to the pinnacle of mma koing a p4p great to win gold,4 world title fights he won,

I feel a combination of Nates good boxing and chin,Conors winding up trying for that one big ko and the pace of the fight sealed his faith,simple wasnt good enough his lack of power was evident,he landed flush plenty of times that would ko any 145er argubaly a lot of 155ers but it wasnt to be Diaz the better mixed martial artist simple,

Hopefully the McGOAT war wagon has lost some of the bandwagoners now and we go again STILL FW undisputed World Champion dont forget it!

WAR MCGREGOR

Please take a leaf out of Conor's book and be a little humble. You're coming across as an awful ignorant prick here.

newbbieb · 06-03-2016 09:08AM

Tilikum wrote: »

Reading this thread the last few days was hard work. The amount of people giving Diaz no chance was a joke. And now we'll have to read nothing but excuses about the difference in size.
It's ok when it's the other way round though.

Hey i dunno how this site works but go back over my posts man if its possible i predicted this.

Gamebred · 06-03-2016 09:09AM

Andre 3000 wrote: »

Please take a leaf out of Conor's book and be a little humble. You're coming across as an awful ignorant prick here.

Point out were im being a ***** as you called?

As for the clowns using Kavanagh as a scapegoat ffs go find a new sport.

John_D80 · 06-03-2016 09:10AM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Another headline fight with a 500k/500k payday, a percentage of PPV and a shot at a tittle I reckon.

His base pay will be nowhere near 500k. and he wasn't even getting 500/500 for this fight. He got a flat 500, no win bonus.

UFC will screw him again.

LaGlisse · 06-03-2016 09:10AM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

People blaming Kavanagh for this needs to take a seat and have a chat with themselves.

He has to take some heat,its a coaching teams job to bring a bit of realism to the table surely?

Subcomandante Marcos · 06-03-2016 09:11AM

John_D80 wrote: »

His base pay will be nowhere near 500k. and he wasn't even getting 500/500 for this fight. He got a flat 500, no win bonus.

UFC will screw him again.

Nate made a million for winning + a percentage.

Conor got 1million to show and would have got another million to win, and a much larger percentage of the ppv buys.

If Nate fights RDA in a headline fight for the title next he'll get the same deal

Wrongway1985 · 06-03-2016 09:13AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Point out were im being a ***** as you called?

As for the clowns using Kavanagh as a scapegoat ffs go find a new sport.

Maybe you've had a few beers but you are calling people Bums and muppets as far as I can see

Muahahaha · 06-03-2016 09:13AM

newbbieb wrote: »

Agree and disagree Conor has lead the way and unfortunately John Kavanagh is his coach,off course thats a plus and minus in that maybe he has led Conor towards this inevitable downfall while also doing well.

He has made a lot of money,and that for me is the consolation in this story but Conor showed tonight he still is super talented,just isn't super-coached.If he had an even half brained coach he wouldn't have tried to jump to 170 to fight a big LW like Diaz who cuts from 190 and will easily outweigh him.

This is what pisses me off the most,i can accept if he is not good enough but tonight it boiled down to Conor being too small and Nate being too big,Conor dominated him but Nate was just too big for him and Conors coaches bear some responsiblity in this for allowing this fight to happen.

They are fair points but lets not forget Conor and JK are on the same journey together. They are both relatively new to this level of the fight game. Conor is big on loyalty and he has been on an unbelievable winning streak with JK as his coach so why would anyone change a winning formula like that and go dump their coach. Its easy to say that JK should have advised him not to take the Diaz fight in hindsight but at the end of the day these are 50/50 battles and Conor had proved remarkably efficient at coming out on top of late.

Andre 3000 · 06-03-2016 09:13AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Point out were im being a ***** as you called?

As for the clowns using Kavanagh as a scapegoat ffs go find a new sport.

Lol there you go again, pure ignorance.

meepins · 06-03-2016 09:14AM

irishguy1983 wrote: »

I'm no expert but I thought Conor looked a bit casual from the start.

Even in that moment just before a fight I didn't see Conor doing his usual moving about just before the bell rings.

I thought he really struggled and couldn't seem to reach Nate at all with his punches -the height of Nate seemed to trouble.

Any truth in they folks?

I wouldn't say casual.. more like relaxed and a bit overconfident. The height difference being an obstacle. no surprise there but he landed some good shots they just weren't game changing.
He didn't approach it the way I thought he would. I was expecting a lot of attacks to the lead leg and body then eventually begin to work the left in round 2.

Gamebred · 06-03-2016 09:14AM

LaGlisse wrote: »

He has to take some heat,its a coaching teams job to bring a bit of realism to the table surely?

He got a young lad who quit mma,to get to the pinnacle of the sport and promtional game,helping him win 4 world title fights in the process and amassing a fortune securing his familys future

Useless coach alright.

CurryFlavoured · 06-03-2016 09:14AM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

People blaming Kavanagh for this needs to take a seat and have a chat with themselves.

Not blaming him, I think the 'jump camp' talk is silly and premature. But I never really liked Kav's cocky attitude. Like he's trying to mimick Conor.

newbbieb · 06-03-2016 09:14AM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Nate made a million for winning + a percentage.

Nate made 500,Plus ppv cut was what he made,Conor made a million flat first fighter ever to do that,plus ppv cut.

Gamebred · 06-03-2016 09:16AM

Andre 3000 wrote: »

Lol there you go again, pure ignorance.

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Maybe you've had a few beers but you are calling people Bums and muppets as far as I can see

Jesus Christ almighty there Is no hope for ye lads

SARCASM lads SARCASM go to bed.

darced · 06-03-2016 09:17AM

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UFC 196: McGregor v Diaz

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