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UFC 196: McGregor v Diaz

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  • #482
    Gamebred
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    Den_M wrote: »
    The reality is that there can be a very unsavoury and sometimes thuggish side to how the fight game works and how Conor promotes himself. The article acknowledges that its for show but seeing the sports biggest star in front of the worlds media shouting and swearing and demeaning everyone that isn't him will not help the sports image.

    I love CM and look forward to his fights very much. He's already a legend and has given us an exciting time to be an Irish MMA fan but for someone that claimed to start training in the sport after getting knocked around by bullies, he acts like a bully himself a lot of the time



    Who is he bullying professional fighters ie grown men or kids here? think people forget that hes not going around calling people of the public bums hes abusing opponents who have talked **** about him,its fight promotion any offended feck off to another sport.


  • #483
    Richard Hillman
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    The indo always have a negative article on the day of a McG fight. It gains hits for the website. People need to stop commenting on the articles.


  • #484
    That_Guy
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    ianob7 wrote: »
    Ya he should take vilante! Sanchez miller should be a good fight. Love watching Diego fight

    I like how they're progressing Fight Pass with big name fighters leading into televised prelims. Eric Winter's interview on the MMA Hour recently was great insight into how they're always trying to improve Fight Pass on fight night.


  • #485
    Tigger
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    That_Guy wrote: »
    So.....

    About them fights...

    Personally can't wait to see Ilir Latifi again. Sleeper fight on the card imo.

    the only sleeper about Latifi is his overhand right, yeah he's great to watch


  • #486
    Gamebred
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    Holloway was a bit taller than McGregor and he used the lead upper cut,can see him utilizing it tonight.


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  • #487
    ianob7
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    That_Guy wrote: »
    I like how they're progressing Fight Pass with big name fighters leading into televised prelims. Eric Winter's interview on the MMA Hour recently was great insight into how they're always trying to improve Fight Pass on fight night.

    The cynical side of me always sees that as a way to get people to buy fight pass as oppose to promote it though. Realistically Sanchez miller should be much higher up this card imo. Duffy v Poirier was on fight pass to get people to buy aswell. Must check out that interview too.


  • #488
    johnpro
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    That_Guy wrote: »
    So.....

    About them fights...

    Personally can't wait to see Ilir Latifi again. Sleeper fight on the card imo.

    What the hell do you think your doing?? Coming here talking about other fights!?! 😂

    On paper this card is significantly less impressive than the previous two but we all know it could still be a potentially great night of fights. I'd like to see latifi get the ko, I've had a soft spot for him since Dublin. I'd also like filthy to get the win purely to see will he hop on the cage and start flicking out cash to the crowd.

    Can't decide on the co-main either though...head says holly, heart/crotch says Tate. :)


  • #489
    myshirt
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    Apparently Conor has helped out many kids young and ill, both with his time and money. He has sat with young offenders or school drop outs, imparting knowledge from a man they'll respect and putting manners on them about moving off the wrong path, overcoming adversity, having a bit of respect for yourself, your community, your people. He just doesn't blow his trumpet about this. He just doesn't sit down with a PR consultant to see what charities 'are hot'.

    Naturally the Americans latch on to a bit of this activity and put it in their media, but behind the scenes you have a man with a very strong social conscience who knows hard work and discipline, a man who respects family and respects his people, and a man who puts his hand into his pocket to help these kids.


    All the google merchants know Jack sh!t about the man, use your brains guys.


  • #490
    That_Guy
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    ianob7 wrote: »
    The cynical side of me always sees that as a way to get people to buy fight pass as oppose to promote it though. Realistically Sanchez miller should be much higher up this card imo. Duffy v Poirier was on fight pass to get people to buy aswell. Must check out that interview too.

    Of course they're wanting people to buy it. :) But they're now sticking big fights on the platform to get people to splash their cash.

    It's great value for money as it is imo but having big name fights early on is a great little bonus and the way they're now presenting the FP prelims is almost like a mini pre-fight show on FOX with backstage interviews etc rather than tons of filler with the same promos running over and over again.


  • #491
    mangobob
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    johnpro wrote: »
    heart/crotch says Tate. :)

    Lmao


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  • #492
    ianob7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭ianob7


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Of course they're wanting people to buy it. :) But they're now sticking big fights on the platform to get people to splash their cash.

    It's great value for money as it is imo but having big name fights early on is a great little bonus and the way they're now presenting the FP prelims is almost like a mini pre-fight show on FOX with backstage interviews etc rather than tons of filler with the same promos running over and over again.

    I'm not really doubting the value as such it's just that I feel that some fights that end up there shouldn't be there really. Yeah production is great on it now. It's a much better spend right now than it was in the past that's for sure

    The more I look at the card the better it looks, kinda half wrote it off when i first checked it out


  • #493
    Gamebred
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    Some very good points about the fight from Dominic Cruz here,especially about straight lines,Diaz has no angles,and also his bjj game from top.


    http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/3/5/11160732/dominick-cruz-on-conor-mcgregor-vs-nate-diaz-mind-games-movement-and


  • #494
    sonofenoch
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    Den_M wrote: »
    The reality is that there can be a very unsavoury and sometimes thuggish side to how the fight game works and how Conor promotes himself. The article acknowledges that its for show but seeing the sports biggest star in front of the worlds media shouting and swearing and demeaning everyone that isn't him will not help the sports image.

    I love CM and look forward to his fights very much. He's already a legend and has given us an exciting time to be an Irish MMA fan but for someone that claimed to start training in the sport after getting knocked around by bullies, he acts like a bully himself a lot of the time


    Absolutely daft thing to come out with.....who's he bullying exactly? the people who'd 'take his head clean off' that's who


  • #495
    Hazys
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    I think Miesha Tate has a strong chance to win based purely on their records, showing that they are not that far apart as people seem to hint. Styles do make matchups but i do think trying to predict how effective one person's style is an advantage over an another persons is near impossible as people come up with game plans and defensives to neutralize that style, etc.

    Before Holly beat Rhonda, she was reasonably underwhelming in her UFC career (i know the division is newish for most fighters but its all we got), decisioning above average UFC fighters. There was a reason her beating Rhonda was one of the biggest upsets in UFC history. A major part of the upset was that Holly fought the perfect fight and Rhonda fought the most stupid fight ever...run at Holly, get countered, run at Holly, get countered, run at Holly, get countered, end of Round 1, Coach's advice "everything going well don't change anything", start of Round 2, run at Holly, get countered, run at Holly, get countered, run at Holly, BOOM knocked out.

    I like Holly but I think she is a little overrated at the moment. While Meisha is a lot more tried and tested in the division and will certainly have a better game plan from her team than Rhonda's "team".

    I think the value pick is Tate here.


  • #496
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    Who is he bullying professional fighters ie grown men or kids here? think people forget that hes not going around calling people of the public bums hes abusing opponents who have talked **** about him,its fight promotion any offended feck off to another sport.[/QUOTe

    I agree, were only seeing him in interviews and when he gets a chance to promote himself. lets be honest, there's a xenophobe vibe from the Americans that's primal. they don't like a foreign guy coming to their shores and shaking up "their" ranks.. the amount of trolling and **** he gets from them, I think half the time he's just getting in before they do, maybe it's defense mechanism from being bullied who knows. And if you look at the new york conference, seems it's rubbing off big time, all the fighters were talking more thrash than I've ever seen, hilarious!!


  • #497
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    you know all week I've been and still am nervous for him really as he's smaller and against a larger guy who can take a beating.

    then I remembered the inhuman beating a much smaller jim miller laid on a taller joe louzan... if conor could do this, what a message that would send.

    and remember louzan is a great fighter and BJJ artist. ask melvin guillard.
    Mcgregor even has the miller skin head and beard now...c'mon lets go...:mad:


  • #498
    shrewdness
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    That_Guy wrote: »
    So.....

    About them fights...

    Personally can't wait to see Ilir Latifi again. Sleeper fight on the card imo.

    Latifi is 7/1 for a POTN bonus, worth a fiver imo as if he connects early he has the power to finish things quick. That fight also 5/1 to end the quickest on the night.


  • #499
    xtal191
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    rusty cole wrote: »
    you know all week I've been and still am nervous for him really as he's smaller and against a larger guy who can take a beating.

    then I remembered the inhuman beating a much smaller jim miller laid on a taller joe louzan... if conor could do this, what a message that would send.

    and remember louzan is a great fighter and BJJ artist. ask melvin guillard.
    Mcgregor even has the miller skin head and beard now...c'mon lets go...:mad:

    No need to be nervous it's not like Diaz has never lost to smaller men. He's 2-3 in his last 5 fights with only Thompson and Johnson taller than Conor by a whole inch, Conor also has longer reach than all five.

    I give him credit for beating Johnson but I reckon Conor kos him easy if the fights anything like that. Dos Anjos destroyed him, he stopped an old and past it Maynard, Thompson tkod him and Henderson beat him easily and even outstriked him too I think.

    Obviously all my opinion but I think Conor beats all 5 of them easily, well maybe Dos Anjos could make a fight of it. But this Diaz fight is perfect for Conor to showcase his abilities and I'm expecting a very one sided beat down tonight. Only way I see Nate winning is by submission.

    But look its the fight game and anything can happen and thats why I ****ing love it.


  • #500
    thisonetaken
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    rusty cole wrote: »
    you know all week I've been and still am nervous for him really as he's smaller and against a larger guy who can take a beating.

    then I remembered the inhuman beating a much smaller jim miller laid on a taller joe louzan... if conor could do this, what a message that would send.

    and remember louzan is a great fighter and BJJ artist. ask melvin guillard.
    Mcgregor even has the miller skin head and beard now...c'mon lets go...:mad:

    Diaz is a journeyman with 3 loses in his last 5 fights. He's slow and doesn't have a knockout punch. He has had no time to prepare and is out of shape. He's also likely to have an injured hand after mcgregor punched it. He has zero chance of winning. McGregor winning will send out no message at all. McGregor has everything to lose and nothing to gain from this fight.


  • #501
    Deadst4r
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    Did anyone else think Holly looked like she had a rough cut?

    She looked a bit gaunt.


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  • #502
    callaway92
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    What time does Setanta call centre close at? Can't seem to order online and not at home at the mo. Thanks.


  • #503
    Billy86
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    thisonetaken wrote: »
    Diaz is a journeyman with 3 loses in his last 5 fights. He's slow and doesn't have a knockout punch. He has had no time to prepare and is out of shape. He's also likely to have an injured hand after mcgregor punched it. He has zero chance of winning. McGregor winning will send out no message at all. McGregor has everything to lose and nothing to gain from this fight.
    Going up 25lbs and winning is a big achievement in itself to be honest, and he's shown he can very, very comfortably fill out the frame.


  • #504
    Naos
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    That is a terrible analogy.

    How so?

    Regardess, use whatever analogy you like or use none. Conor shouldn't have punched him in the fist prior to the fight.


  • #505
    Paully D
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    What time will McGregor be in the ring at and what time does it all start at?


  • #506
    chillin117
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    Paully D wrote: »
    What time will McGregor be in the ring at and what time does it all start at?
    3.30am will be time enough. I don't think Mc Gregor on till 4.30ish according to entertainment.ie. For those who have access its on BT2.
    http://entertainment.ie/tv-highlight/UFC-196-McGregor-v-Diaz/377949.htm


  • #507
    Naos
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    Nate looking as expected,I thought maybe we'd be in for a suprise and see him in some nice shape but unfortunetely not,his kill or be killed is deafeatist in the extreme,he is going in there for a payday.

    It's not defeatist. That is how the Diaz bros talk all the time. Nick for example has said he thinks of all the ways he can possibly lose, so it no longer becomes a big deal.

    Nate is not looking too different to how he generally looks.


  • #508
    Davei141
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    Naos wrote: »
    It's not defeatist. That is how the Diaz bros talk all the time. Nick for example has said he thinks of all the ways he can possibly lose, so it no longer becomes a big deal.

    Nate is not looking to differently to how he generally looks.

    Exactly. Never in their lives have the Diaz bro's came out with the "I can't lose best camp of my life" bs. Pretty shocking the amount of people who haven't a clue about how the Diaz's act.


  • #509
    sonofenoch
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    thisonetaken wrote: »
    Diaz is a journeyman with 3 loses in his last 5 fights. He's slow and doesn't have a knockout punch. He has had no time to prepare and is out of shape. He's also likely to have an injured hand after mcgregor punched it. He has zero chance of winning. McGregor winning will send out no message at all. McGregor has everything to lose and nothing to gain from this fight.

    McGregor will always have everything to lose in some eyes he can never win........you get the impression many are just waiting for him to lose (and it will come eventually) but some are just itching with the 'I told you so' line


  • #510
    Gamebred
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    Davei141 wrote: »
    Exactly. Never in their lives have the Diaz bro's came out with the "I can't lose best camp of my life" bs. Pretty shocking the amount of people who haven't a clue about how the Diaz's act.
    Naos wrote: »
    It's not defeatist. That is how the Diaz bros talk all the time. Nick for example has said he thinks of all the ways he can possibly lose, so it no longer becomes a big deal.

    Nate is not looking too different to how he generally looks.



    Ive been a fan of Nick mainly before Conor set foot near the octagon,they have a love hate relationship with mma in general often saying its no fun to them,but this kill or be killer and merked quotes coming from him aint normal.


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  • #511
    Davei141
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    Ive been a fan of Nick mainly before Conor set foot near the octagon,they have a love hate relationship with mma in general often saying its no fun to them,but this kill or be killer and merked quotes coming from him aint normal.

    It is perfectly normal. He is coming in on 11 days notice he knows the odds are stacked against him. Won't stop him from giving everything he has.


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