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deejer · 18-02-2016 07:01PM

Im in the states at the end of the month and I think it would be a sin not to pick something up while Im there.

I am still using a 2600k in my main rig but I have a decent socket 1150 MB that only has a G3258 in it so was thinking of picking up a 4690k for an upgrade.

$200 in microcentre.

Seems a decent price. Is it a good time to retire the 2600k?

Redfox25 · 18-02-2016 07:34PM

deejer wrote: »

Im in the states at the end of the month and I think it would be a sin not to pick something up while Im there.

I am still using a 2600k in my main rig but I have a decent socket 1150 MB that only has a G3258 in it so was thinking of picking up a 4690k for an upgrade.

$200 in microcentre.

Seems a decent price. Is it a good time to retire the 2600k?

If its for gaming only its not much of an upgrade really.

Gumbi · 18-02-2016 09:00PM

It's a damn good price for a 4790k though.

john the one · 18-02-2016 09:02PM

Gumbi wrote: »

It's a damn good price for a 4790k though.

Its a 4690, not an i7, but that would be a damn good price!

deejer · 18-02-2016 09:57PM

john the one wrote: »

Its a 4690, not an i7, but that would be a damn good price!

Ya the 4790 is $100 quid dearer. Would be cutting into my drinking funds

john the one · 18-02-2016 10:00PM

deejer wrote: »

Ya the 4790 is $100 quid dearer. Would be cutting into my drinking funds

If you have the 100 dollars you should go for the i7 IMO

Fakman87 · 18-02-2016 10:48PM

Lads I did a wired speed test on my 240 horizon box and got about 140 download. Is this because the horizon is poor or are upc not providing me the full 240?

john the one · 18-02-2016 10:50PM

Fakman87 wrote: »

Lads I did a wired speed test on my 240 horizon box and got about 140 download. Is this because the horizon is poor or are upc not providing me the full 240?

The answer you will get from Virgin is that it is up to 240 mb. Could be the box, could be you cant get that high a speed, could be you are being throttled.

.G. · 18-02-2016 10:51PM

Fakman87 wrote:

Lads I did a wired speed test on my 240 horizon box and got about 140 download. Is this because the horizon is poor or are upc not providing me the full 240?

I get the same. I've rang them a few times to complain but I'm always left facing a long wait to talk to somebody so I've not bothered waiting. We should be getting the full speed advertised as far as I'm concerned.

Fakman87 · 18-02-2016 11:23PM

john the one wrote: »

The answer you will get from Virgin is that it is up to 240 mb. Could be the box, could be you cant get that high a speed, could be you are being throttled.

superg wrote: »

I get the same. I've rang them a few times to complain but I'm always left facing a long wait to talk to somebody so I've not bothered waiting. We should be getting the full speed advertised as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks lads. Would an archer c7 get me up to 240 or am I stuck at 140 regardless?

justsomebloke · 19-02-2016 01:26PM

How are you testing the speed at the moment? You should be directly connecting to the UPC box via a cable (making sure your network card is gigabit) and bypassing any other networking device. What ever speed that is, 'should' be the best speed you will get regardless of any other intermediate equipment.

TerrorFirmer · 19-02-2016 02:29PM

deejer wrote: »

Ya the 4790 is $100 quid dearer. Would be cutting into my drinking funds

I wouldn't bother, the upgrade would only be for your mental benefit, you'd see zilch difference in games between a 2600K and a 4690k. The money would be far better spent on a new card unless you already have a 980Ti or something like that.

It's not a good time to retire any K series i5 or i7 to be honest. The jump in performance simply isn't there. In some games something like an i7-6700K will out-perform a 2600K by an OK but small margin, but most games there isn't really any difference and the differences themselves are only really apparent when you're running a Fury X or 980Ti class card.

deejer · 19-02-2016 03:02PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I wouldn't bother, the upgrade would only be for your mental benefit, you'd see zilch difference in games between a 2600K and a 4690k. The money would be far better spent on a new card unless you already have a 980Ti or something like that.

It's not a good time to retire any K series i5 or i7 to be honest. The jump in performance simply isn't there. In some games something like an i7-6700K will out-perform a 2600K by an OK but small margin, but most games there isn't really any difference and the differences themselves are only really apparent when you're running a Fury X or 980Ti class card.

Thanks

I guess I didn't ask the full questions either though. Its a 2600K in a Z77 MB compared to a 4690K in a Z97 MB. I have a G3258 that I picked up for small money a few months ago that I was going to use.

On the GPU side my 780 is going to have to last me another while I think. I have never actually bought a new GPU anyway!

.G. · 19-02-2016 03:04PM

justsomebloke wrote: »

How are you testing the speed at the moment? You should be directly connecting to the UPC box via a cable (making sure your network card is gigabit) and bypassing any other networking device. What ever speed that is, 'should' be the best speed you will get regardless of any other intermediate equipment.

I'm connected directly by cable. I've turned off all other internet using devices and tried at various times of day and still only get 140mb. I used to get the full 240mb but at some point in time that changed. I've been with them years and anytime I tested I always got full speed but I haven't checked too often. Only checked recently because my contract was up for renewal.

Interestingly the speed check on the Ookla website always says 140mb but the speed check on the virgin media website sometimes says I'm getting 240mb even when I test on both websites one after the other. One of them is fibbing and they are both powered by Ookla!

Tested just now, Speedtest.net says I have 133mb and the speed test on Virgins website ( powered by ookla) says I have 243mb!

TerrorFirmer · 19-02-2016 03:19PM

deejer wrote: »

Thanks

I guess I didn't ask the full questions either though. Its a 2600K in a Z77 MB compared to a 4690K in a Z97 MB. I have a G3258 that I picked up for small money a few months ago that I was going to use.

On the GPU side my 780 is going to have to last me another while I think. I have never actually bought a new GPU anyway!

The GTX780 is your major bottleneck, not the 2600K - it would remain that way unless you shelled out 700 euro on a GTX980Ti.

The G3258 is a crap processor now, no matter how much you overclock it, it struggles really badly in a lot of the latest and more intensive titles. And a load of games don't even work natively and refuse to run due to the lack of HT.

If the 2600K was a fifty euro note, the G3258 would be a fiver.

Fakman87 · 19-02-2016 03:23PM

justsomebloke wrote: »

How are you testing the speed at the moment? You should be directly connecting to the UPC box via a cable (making sure your network card is gigabit) and bypassing any other networking device. What ever speed that is, 'should' be the best speed you will get regardless of any other intermediate equipment.

I just connected the laptop to the horizon box using an ethernet cable. It tripled the download speed so I'm guessing it worked, or is there something else I need to do?

justsomebloke · 19-02-2016 03:23PM

There is a possibility that neither are technically lying. The Virgin speed test is probably done before any major routing or throttling is done so will be pretty quick and accurate, however the ookla one probably takes into consideration the ropey routing that Virgin has in place after that and is more of a 'real world' speed.

ED E · 19-02-2016 04:39PM

Fakman87 wrote: »

I just connected the laptop to the horizon box using an ethernet cable. It tripled the download speed so I'm guessing it worked, or is there something else I need to do?

Its normal. Wifi is much slower than wired, you'll only fix that by moving to the 360Mb service AND using very new devices that support the latest WLAN standard .11AC.

glynf · 20-02-2016 07:01PM

Anyone want to buy a kidney?

deceit · 20-02-2016 11:45PM

glynf wrote: »

Anyone want to buy a kidney?

Do you not think the stand and backing is horrible and over the top?

glynf · 21-02-2016 12:36AM

deceit wrote: »

Do you not think the stand and backing is horrible and over the top?

I think the style is a tad obnoxious, would be thinking of mounting on an arm. The screen itself looks amazing, waiting to hear what the Asus quality control is like-back light bleed, IPS glow etc.

challengemaster · 21-02-2016 07:42PM

Not really sure if this qualifies as a bargain alert, but it's -13% off the SuperFlower Leadex Gold 850W on OCUK.

I had originally ordered an XFX XTR 750W from maplins (HUKD) - but maplins cancelled the order as they weren't restocking. I figured for an extra few quid it was worth upgrading to the superflower, even if it's major overkill.

Xenoronin · 22-02-2016 12:54PM

My GTX 760 has surprised me. It made the jump to 1440p with no huge deal. The new ROG Swift is restricted to 120Hz on anything less than the 960 but that doesn't really matter to me for the moment (though they really did keep that quiet, thought it was just the overclocking to 165Hz that was restricted) since the graphics card rarely ever hits above 120fps.

G-Sync is beautiful, ULMB is really cool, though you have to do the UFO test in order to see what exactly just happened, IPS is nothing new to me so it is still really pretty. The built in flux is interesting, gonna try it out to see if it reduces eye strain.

Got lucky in the QC department, no dead pixels, the IPS Glow is fine after using the TFTCentral settings, at default it is way too bright and the black screen really looks pretty bad, much less so after calibration. Only real issue is that activating ULMB requires the monitor to be turned off for a second and then back on (backlight seems to turn mostly off once you exit the OSD). It's a known issue but not something i'm thinking of RMA over since I won't be using it frequently (not a CS:GO nut, just a casual). Doesn't seem to be much if any backlight bleed.

Rocket League is playing perfectly at max graphics and 1440p, so is LoL. I know it would struggle in more intensive or badly optimised games (looking at you Blade and Soul). CS:GO can play on a toaster so that wasn't surprising. I think i'm happy to wait for Pascal now.
Solid (though very expensive) investment. Would recommend.

.G. · 22-02-2016 05:44PM

Xenoronin wrote: »

My GTX 760 has surprised me. It made the jump to 1440p with no huge deal. The new ROG Swift is restricted to 120Hz on anything less than the 960 but that doesn't really matter to me for the moment (though they really did keep that quiet, thought it was just the overclocking to 165Hz that was restricted) since the graphics card rarely ever hits above 120fps.

G-Sync is beautiful, ULMB is really cool, though you have to do the UFO test in order to see what exactly just happened, IPS is nothing new to me so it is still really pretty. The built in flux is interesting, gonna try it out to see if it reduces eye strain.

Got lucky in the QC department, no dead pixels, the IPS Glow is fine after using the TFTCentral settings, at default it is way too bright and the black screen really looks pretty bad, much less so after calibration. Only real issue is that activating ULMB requires the monitor to be turned off for a second and then back on (backlight seems to turn mostly off once you exit the OSD). It's a known issue but not something i'm thinking of RMA over since I won't be using it frequently (not a CS:GO nut, just a casual). Doesn't seem to be much if any backlight bleed.

Rocket League is playing perfectly at max graphics and 1440p, so is LoL. I know it would struggle in more intensive or badly optimised games (looking at you Blade and Soul). CS:GO can play on a toaster so that wasn't surprising. I think i'm happy to wait for Pascal now.
Solid (though very expensive) investment. Would recommend.

You bought the monitor glynf linked above?

I'm going all out this year in the upgrade dept and want something similar along with a new GPU when the new cards come out and possibly a new CPU+MOBO

Xenoronin · 23-02-2016 10:05AM

superg wrote: »

You bought the monitor glynf linked above?

I'm going all out this year in the upgrade dept and want something similar along with a new GPU when the new cards come out and possibly a new CPU+MOBO

Nah, the 27" PG279Q. Didn't realise the ROG Swift name now had three in the family

I would still suggest looking at FreeSync and AMD cards for money savings. The premium that G-Sync adds is pretty nuts.

Gehad_JoyRider · 24-02-2016 11:26PM

How does one determine the price of there current rig and do you have any recommendations before selling it?

Any advice not selling it for any other purpose then I want to upgrade... It plays most games comfortably at 50 to 60 fps on a pretty decent setting. as in high to ultra depending on how you set the graphics up in game.

Its a Bit fenix case
Cpu: fx8350
H50 Corsair: cpu cooler
Mobo: Asus saber-tooth 990fx R2.0
psu: Super flower 500 80 bronze
gpu: 7950 sapphire vapor x 3gb ddr5
ram: 1866 8 gigs vengeance
1 terabyte mech Wd hard drive
120 gb ssd kinkston
Corsair silent fans.
cd drive

Wright · 25-02-2016 12:01AM

glynf wrote: »

Anyone want to buy a kidney?

Monoprice is coming out with a 34" 1440p 75hz panel that's gonna be about 500.

Serephucus · 25-02-2016 12:02AM

I used to be really interesting in getting one of these... But then... I saw Dell's OLED monitor.

Imma wait.

grindle · 25-02-2016 12:05AM

Gehad_JoyRider wrote: »

How does one determine the price of there current rig and do you have any recommendations before selling it?

Find out the price of what it would take to get equivalent performance nowadays and knock 20-30% off that price because it's used. Actually, selling via adverts you should up the price a smidge as you're gonna be low-balled and offered old copies of the RTE Guide as a swap.

Clean it & write zeros to the drives if you're paranoid/safe.

Gehad_JoyRider · 25-02-2016 12:25AM

grindle wrote: »

Find out the price of what it would take to get equivalent performance nowadays and knock 20-30% off that price because it's used. Actually, selling via adverts you should up the price a smidge as you're gonna be low-balled and offered old copies of the RTE Guide as a swap.

Clean it & write zeros to the drives if you're paranoid/safe.

Have you seen some of the systems for sale on adverts. :eek: there dusty and acent and asking near top dollar :pac:

your right on that one :pac: should I include how it performs on prime 95 and valley in screen shots?

As since I've had it AMD radeon drivers have come on leeps and bounds.

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