Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 15/16

24-02-2016 05:28PM

mosstin wrote: »

How did this lad pass the medical? Loic Remy will have his lawyers on the case.

Quality. Hilarious.

24-02-2016 05:40PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Really hope nobody on the Liverpool squad or staff has this attitude though.

Do you really hope that ? Or are you just saying something wildly emotional ?

I think he was just stating his preference in those specific circumstances.

Do you understand now ?

24-02-2016 05:49PM

Bandana boy wrote: »

Would it be moe important than a league game on the last day of the season when we are 4 points behind the team in front of us and 4 ahead of the team behind us ?

No of course not , This season at this time in the season the legue cup final is more important than any league game.
1 its silver ware
2 It starts a winning mentality, it battle hardens a squad.
3 It is one point of brightness in his season of muck
4 Nearly all the really good coaches started winning leagues by at first winning cups

So much wrong with this post but point 4 has blown my mind. The icing on the cake, if you will.

24-02-2016 05:55PM

8-10 wrote: »

It's relative to the way the season is going.

Early rounds of both cups we are no different to other teams in the PL: play a mixture of experienced players, young up and coming players, and squad players who need the games - e.g. Joe Allen, Ibe, Lucas etc who have been rotated most of the year.

I have no problem with us doing this and it shows what people seem to have an issue about - that we are not taking it as a priority. People want us to prioritise the league over the League cup and that's what we did in those early rounds:

v Carlisle: likes of Bogdan, Ings, Ibe, Allen etc (still Rodgers at this stage)
v Bournemouth: likes of Bogdan, Toure, Teixeira, Origi, Brannagan, Randall
v Southampton: likes of Bogdan, Randall, Allen, Sturridge returning from injury to get a game

So I don't think we were sacrificing the first team completely in these games at all - priority was the league with the form players rested in these games

Then we get to the semi-final. Now it's a 2 leg game that you can still look to rest players for if you're doing well in the league (for us this season it would be top-4 contending that we would all like to see prioritised)

However, the time of the first leg of the semi we are 8th in the league. Added to that, it is over a week until the next league game. So I have no problem that we played a stronger team for the semi-final 1st leg. We could then rest players v Exeter City in the FA Cup which we did subsequently that weekend and still have a rest for the first teamers. For the 2nd leg v Stoke we were 7th in the league but even further from top 4 and in reality we all know that was a very long shot at the time of the 2nd leg.

So I understand people saying like in the above quote that we should prioritise the league and if you go back to September now that's what we'd all say. But based on the approach we had for the League Cup this season - I think that all the way up to the semi-final 2nd leg, we did prioritise the league. The issue we have is - we kept on winning the ties that we rested players for!

This to me is the ideal situation - rest players right up to the end and then, when there's actually something to play for - we play a stronger team. And we are only doing that at a time when the main league objective seems to have slipped away. If we were in any position from 1-5 in the league right now I'd expect we'd still be gung ho for the league and saying screw the cup. But there's little left to play for there and our League Cup semi-reserve team have gotten us this far so why not go for the win on Sunday? What league goals are we going to screw up by doing so?

Amazing post. Full of contradictions.

Fickle indeed.

Harry Palmr · 24-02-2016 06:04PM

Who the **** are you anyway?! :pac:

24-02-2016 06:16PM

Someone who did not think perspective would be met with such confusion.

24-02-2016 06:37PM

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Let me ask a question, if it was a call between having a good run in the league cup OR having players fresher for league games over the course of a full season which would you pick?

We don't have the quality never mind the quality and depth to compete on all fronts, yes a trophy would be nice and i'd love it if we beat city on Sunday but if i asked myself that same question last September i'd choose the league as priority.
The domestic cups are not what they once were and success in them should be seen as a bonus not a priority.

I would pick having players fresh for the league campaign every time. I think you're spot on in saying the cups are only a bonus to a relatively successful league placing.

I would enjoy the league cup a lot more if they introduced some underage rule. Maybe 5-7 matchday squad players needing to be under 23 or something of that ilk.

54and56 · 24-02-2016 06:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I would enjoy the league cup a lot more if they introduced some underage rule. Maybe 5-7 matchday squad players needing to be under 23 or something of that ilk.

Good idea, similar to the rules in the Olympics? That would differentiate the competition from the FA Cup and give it more of a reason to exist. Not sure the senior players picked to play with the babies would be too impressed though. Could be worth a shot though along with peno's and no replays.

~Rebel~ · 24-02-2016 07:16PM

A bit embarrassing that Sturridge was even asked about that stupid religion rumor, but I guess still good to have on record his thoughts on it. (annoyed and disappointed that anyone would ever even suggest such a thing. insulted at the suggestion that he ever wants to do anything other than just play football, and sees no connection between religion and football). He came across quite well.

8-10 · 24-02-2016 07:29PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Amazing post. Full of contradictions.

Fickle indeed.

Fickle how?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 24-02-2016 07:58PM

ERG89 · 24-02-2016 08:20PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do you really hope that ? Or are you just saying something wildly emotional ?

I think he was just stating his preference in those specific circumstances.

Do you understand now ?

The cups don't mean much when teams pick entire different XI's in the early rounds once you make a quarter final it gets taken seriously. Much prefer to be performing consistently than taking the domestics cups for more than what they are.
I'd be delighted if we beat City but there is still 3 months left in the season & how we perform week in & week out is an indicator of how we're doing not winning Capital One or FA Cups

24-02-2016 08:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well I've held a season ticket for a season (not at club prices) and regularly paid top dollar for tickets to matches over the years with the opening home match, of the season, being a regular event for about 7 of the 10 years I lived in the UK.

I've also spent many mornings arising at silly hours, for example from 1am-6am, depending on what time zone I was living in at that time. Always difficult traveling to matches in randomn venues (in cities or towns I barely knew at times) over the years at abnormal times to watch game on a tv I didn't have.

I could go on and on and on and on.

I know how much I've supported my club, for over 37 years now (including first visit to Anfield at the age of 12), and I can go in to greater detail if I wasn't on my Bàstard phone.

In short, if people don't understand that I have very little interest in winning that irrelevant trophy then that's hardly my fault. Again, I could go into detail, which I thought would be fairly obvious, as to why but there seems to be no point.

I believe you..

Cool, if you feel it's no point all the better.

OwaynOTT · 24-02-2016 09:53PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Liverpool have failed to score in the last four days and if they fail to score tomorrow, that will mean they have failed to score for 4/7 days this week.

dogbert27 · 24-02-2016 11:01PM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Liverpool have failed to score in the last four days and if they fail to score tomorrow, that will mean they have failed to score for 4/7 days this week.

Yeah but we've only got cup games this week so it doesn't matter as much. Now if we don't score in our next league game, well that's our season ruined :pac:

ush · 25-02-2016 10:46AM

Sappy404 wrote: »

You'd rather win a 2nd leg Europa League last 32 match against the 13th best team in Germany than a League Cup final? For the outside chance of qualifying for another tournament we won't win?

Rather not lose at all.

Knex* · 25-02-2016 11:16AM

Could barely remember this game, until I saw the Henchoz line clearance.

League Cup Final 2003 Highlights - Liverpool vs Man Utd

https://streamable.com/fehq

kfallon · 25-02-2016 11:20AM

Knex. wrote: »

Could barely remember this game, until I saw the Henchoz line clearance.

:eek:

I remember watching it at home, went for a couple of pints to celebrate after it with a mate and then off to a Cheltenham Preview Evening in Stillorgan!

Knex* · 25-02-2016 11:23AM

kfallon wrote: »

:eek:

I remember watching it at home, went for a couple of pints to celebrate after it with a mate and then off to a Cheltenham Preview Evening in Stillorgan!

To be fair, I was 12.

I probably had a couple of pints of milk too many, or something.

It is a weird one, though. I remember so much from the treble campaign, but the details of the final in 03 had completely left me.

Knex* · 25-02-2016 11:25AM

Liverpool linked with Ignacio Camacho.

Not sure what to make of him, tbh. He does love a tackle, I suppose.

kfallon · 25-02-2016 11:27AM

Knex. wrote: »

To be fair, I was 12.

I probably had a couple of pints of milk too many, or something.

It is a weird one, though. I remember so much from the treble campaign, but the details of the final in 03 had completely left me.

If I remember correctly, Dudek had a decent game against Utd for once in that match!

5starpool · 25-02-2016 11:30AM

Knex. wrote: »

To be fair, I was 12.

I probably had a couple of pints of milk too many, or something.

It is a weird one, though. I remember so much from the treble campaign, but the details of the final in 03 had completely left me.

To be honest, I can't remember a lot about it either I have to say. I was certainly a lot older than 12 and there was likely to have been beer in play as well so that probably explains it.

x43r0 · 25-02-2016 11:41AM

Knex. wrote: »

Liverpool linked with Ignacio Camacho.

Not sure what to make of him, tbh. He does love a tackle, I suppose.

Could say the same about yore ma :pac::pac:

Hiyoo

Harry Palmr · 25-02-2016 11:46AM

Knex. wrote: »

Liverpool linked with Ignacio Camacho.

Not sure what to make of him, tbh. He does love a tackle, I suppose.

Posted dat yesterday, keep up!

Knex* · 25-02-2016 11:58AM

x43r0 wrote: »

Could say the same about yore ma :pac::pac:

Hiyoo

Turtyturd · 25-02-2016 11:58AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Posted dat yesterday, keep up!

Who are you?

MonkeyTennis · 25-02-2016 12:48PM

Knex. wrote: »

Could barely remember this game, until I saw the Henchoz line clearance.

League Cup Final 2003 Highlights - Liverpool vs Man Utd

https://streamable.com/fehq

I was absolutely hammered for that game, it was my birthday

:D

Kerrigooney · 25-02-2016 01:37PM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

I was absolutely hammered for that game, it was my birthday :D

Belated Happy birthday.

ERG89 · 25-02-2016 01:38PM

Knex. wrote: »

Could barely remember this game, until I saw the Henchoz line clearance.

The one vs Arsenal was much better :P

Knex* · 25-02-2016 01:49PM

I understand now why Lovren and Skrtel have been out for so long. We've actually gone and moulded them together.

Meet Lovrel.

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