Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

Vic Vinegar · 20-02-2016 08:20PM

billyhead wrote: »

Not really. The club dot comment on speculation. They never stated their full support for LVG when rumours started circulating after xmas that he would be sacked and Mourinho would come in.

They denied the Pep meeting rumours almost instantly.

RobertKK · 20-02-2016 08:32PM

We really need to do something very soon.

Murphy's law is not acceptable as an excuse. This is the second year under LVG and the second year with injuries to many players.
Some of the injuries are unfortunate, like with Shaw, some are predictable like with Jones.
We went from trying to buy a top defender like Ramos, to buying no one for central defense.

We tried hard to get Muller for the right side of a front three, in the end we got no one.

Martial was a great signing, but after the clear out we needed another attacker. We only signed Martial due to Monaco being knocked out of the CL qualifiers and United striking for the player as they expected he would be harder to get in future transfer windows.

United need to use their sponsor money to pay the best wages, I don't care if we offer a proven superstar who makes the top three in the Ballon Dor €25 million a year after tax. United need to do something. We can afford any player, and we need quality.
The quality of the team is not great, despite all the money spent, and presuming we get a new manager, there will be a lot of spending and sales.
The way things are going, United will need to uses wages to attract players of true quality.

v3ttel · 20-02-2016 08:36PM

billyhead wrote: »

Not really. The club dot comment on speculation.

United deny meeting Guardiola

And this is not from a rag, it's from the BBC so you can guarantee this was a briefing by the club.

The_Kew_Tour · 20-02-2016 08:42PM

Hate this United are not a sacking club ****.

Boy ****ing Jesus no other club in world would put up with this **** week in week out.

You get a few digs from other set of supporters who do the ****ing same.

We have given him more then enough time. It's now getting to unbelievable embarrassing scale and don't tell me another club would hang, cause I'll show you a liar.

v3ttel · 20-02-2016 08:44PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Hate this United are not a sacking club ****.

Boy ****ing Jesus no other club in world would put up with this **** week in week out.

You get a few digs from other set of supporters who do the ****ing same.

We have given him more then enough time. It's now getting to unbelievable embarrassing scale and don't tell me another club would hang, cause I'll show you a liar.

I'm really sick of that line too.

If this was happening at Madrid, Barcelona or to a lesser extent a Bayern, they'd be rioting in the streets.

When a manager has lost the confidence of the fans & the players it isn't going to turn around.

homerjay2005 · 20-02-2016 08:48PM

DM_7 wrote: »

When Spurs and Leicester pass you out then you can't complain if your sacked.

Pochettino took over Spurs at same time and reached a final in season one. They are challenging for the title in season two.

Van Gaal has failed to make any progress.

seen this earlier, if the final 12 games follow the form of the last 12 games played since December 5th, the league table will end like this.

makes scary thinking that if things dont change quickly.

LiamoSail · 20-02-2016 08:58PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Boy ****ing Jesus no other club in world would put up with this **** week in week out.

Have a look at the table. Most clubs in the league are putting up with worse than what United have to endure under Van Gael.

Yes he's doing a poor job, and will in all likelihood be sacked at the end of the year, but United fans playing the long suffering fan role is wearing thin. The reality is that all of the big clubs go through similar periods, the fact that it's uncharted territory for a huge number of United fans doesn't make the experience unique

homerjay2005 · 20-02-2016 09:04PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

Have a look at the table. Most clubs in the league are putting up with worse than what United have to endure under Van Gael.

we are manchester United, we are not Palace, Swansea, Norwich.

Watford coming to Old trafford in 11 days time with the chance to knock us into 9th position, is not beyond impossibility. it wont happen, but its mathematically possible especially given the chance we could lost to Arsenal.

Liverpool sacked their manager 4 months ago, Chelsea did it 2 months ago.

The_Kew_Tour · 20-02-2016 09:05PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

Have a look at the table. Most clubs in the league are putting up with worse than what United have to endure under Van Gael.

Yes he's doing a poor job, and will in all likelihood be sacked at the end of the year, but United fans playing the long suffering fan role is wearing thin. The reality is that all of the big clubs go through similar periods, the fact that it's uncharted territory for a huge number of United fans doesn't make the experience unique

Name these clubs putting up with worse?

LiamoSail · 20-02-2016 09:07PM

Regarding United not being a sacking club, with the exception of Ferguson, who even Florintino Perez probably wouldn't have sacked, United have sacked every single manager they've had since Matt Busby.

The notion seems to be based entirely on Martin Edwards having a bit of patience in the late 80's/early 90's

I don't think Moyes got any more time at United than any other club would have given him while LVG, assuming he goes this summer, probably got six months more than others would have afforded. That hardly makes United "not a sacking club"

LiamoSail · 20-02-2016 09:08PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Name these clubs putting up with worse?

All those clubs beneath United in the league

The_Kew_Tour · 20-02-2016 09:09PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

All those clubs beneath United in the league

So you telling me Watford fans are disgusted with where they stand in table for example?????

LiamoSail · 20-02-2016 09:12PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

we are manchester United, we are not Palace, Swansea, Norwich.

Doesn't matter whether you're a Man United or Dundee United fan. All fans want to win games, to win trophies. 20 years of unrivalled success dosent exempt you from experiencing the lows that the majority of football fans endure with far greater frequency

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 20-02-2016 09:13PM

We are **** at the moment with no signs of changing. We are playing woeful football too. He has to go. We were meant to be challenging somewhat for the title this year after the money spent, not doing worse!

LiamoSail · 20-02-2016 09:18PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

So you telling me Watford fans are disgusted with where they stand in table for example?????

No. I'm saying Watford fans have had to endure far worse than what United fans have over the last number of years.

Three years without a league title and your chatting about rioting in the streets. Just as well you're not a Sunderland fan or someone like that. You'd probably end up taking up arms

Flint Fredstone · 20-02-2016 09:22PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

No. I'm saying Watford fans have had to endure far worse than what United fans have over the last number of years.

Three years without a league title and your chatting about rioting in the streets. Just as well you're not a Sunderland fan or someone like that. You'd probably end up taking up arms

Yeah because everybody starts the season with the same expectations, regardless of talent and outlay.

The_Kew_Tour · 20-02-2016 09:24PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

No. I'm saying Watford fans have had to endure far worse than what United fans have over the last number of years.

Three years without a league title and your chatting about rioting in the streets. Just as well you're not a Sunderland fan or someone like that. You'd probably end up taking up arms

Where did I mention rioting on streets?

So you have never been upset about any manager at your club? Souness or Kenny?.

So if you went into Administration and out of Professional football you would not complain, cause hey, they're plenty amateur clubs around right?

I smell a whiff in air

5starpool · 20-02-2016 09:30PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

No. I'm saying Watford fans have had to endure far worse than what United fans have over the last number of years.

Three years without a league title and your chatting about rioting in the streets. Just as well you're not a Sunderland fan or someone like that. You'd probably end up taking up arms

This is a seriously skewed view. I've no idea if you are on the wind up or not. It's all about expectation. If the table ended up like that thee Watford would be delighted, and Stoke would be happy whereas Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea would be disgusted. The difference for utd is that they have not made a move to try and improve things by bringing in a manager the club and the fans are behind, and utd haven't. The idea that all football fans have equal expectation of their club is ridiculous.

Canadel · 20-02-2016 09:30PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

All those clubs beneath United in the league

Name one of those clubs (other than Chelsea and Liverpool) who have spent even close to what Utd have spent since Van Gaal took charge? And while you're at it name one of those clubs (other than Chelsea) who have won the premier league as Utd have done within the last 3 years? Go home and have your dinner.

LiamoSail · 20-02-2016 09:40PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Where did I mention rioting on streets?

So you have never been upset about any manager at your club? Souness or Kenny?.

So if you went into Administration and out of Professional football you would not complain, cause hey, they're plenty amateur clubs around right?

I smell a whiff in air

Apologies, you didn't mention rioting. The post I was getting at was the reference to others not putting up with this.

Of course I complain, moan and bitch about football. My point was simply that you're 5/6th in the league and have gone three years without a title. It happens most big clubs, Real, Barca, Milan, Bayern have all experienced similar. It's no where near as bad as the reactions on here would seem to merit

DARK-KNIGHT · 20-02-2016 09:41PM

Do not feed
Do not feed

Please God lvg will be out of a job asap

LiamoSail · 20-02-2016 09:41PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Where did I mention rioting on streets?

So you have never been upset about any manager at your club? Souness or Kenny?.

So if you went into Administration and out of Professional football you would not complain, cause hey, they're plenty amateur clubs around right?

I smell a whiff in air

Apologies, you didn't mention rioting. The post I was getting at was the reference to others not putting up with this.

Of course I complain, moan and bitch about football. My point was simply that you're 5/6th in the league and have gone three years without a title. It happens most big clubs, Real, Barca, Milan, Bayern have all experienced similar. It's no where near as bad as the reactions on here would seem to merit

20 Times 20 Times · 20-02-2016 09:42PM

My own opinion is the sacking hasn't happened because Giggs won't work with Jose and there is a split boardroom on the decesion of our next manager !

The_Kew_Tour · 20-02-2016 09:42PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

Apologies, you didn't mention rioting. The post I was getting at was the reference to others not putting up with this.

Of course I complain, moan and bitch about football. My point was simply that you're 5/6th in the league and have gone three years without a title. It happens most big clubs, Real, Barca, Milan, Bayern have all experienced similar. It's no where near as bad as the reactions on here would seem to merit

Every clubs goes through transition. Every club has poor times.

But majority of clubs try rectify that ASAP. United haven't. United need a change, it's not only results but football has been awful too

LiamoSail · 20-02-2016 09:44PM

Canadel wrote: »

Name one of those clubs (other than Chelsea and Liverpool) who have spent even close to what Utd have spent since Van Gaal took charge? And while you're at it name one of those clubs (other than Chelsea) who have won the premier league as Utd have done within the last 3 years? Go home and have your dinner.

What, so fans of say West Ham, at full time after a defeat just whip the calculators out, calculate who had the least net spend, and react to the defeat accordingly?

My point is everyone wants to win, and losing sucks. Dosent matter if you're a Newcastle fan or a United fan. By and large, United fans have had a lot of fortune over the years, and now suddenly the first cloud on the horizon and you'd swear it was the end of the world

Lithium93_ · 20-02-2016 09:45PM

20 Times 20 Times wrote: »

My own opinion is the sacking hasn't happened because Giggs won't work with Jose and there is a split boardroom on the decesion of our next manager !

IF José comes in, Giggs should hit the road and take a page from Gary Neville's book and go into management..

Sometimes continuity needs to be broken.

LiamoSail · 20-02-2016 09:47PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Every clubs goes through transition. Every club has poor times.

But majority of clubs try rectify that ASAP. United haven't. United need a change, it's not only results but football has been awful too

I agree. And United are ****ing up, just as every other club in the world have at one stage in their recent history. The only difference is that this is a new experience for most United fans, and then playing the long suffering fan when all they're experiencing is exacly what fans of every other club experience, is a bit self pitying imo

LiamoSail · 20-02-2016 09:52PM

5starpool wrote: »

This is a seriously skewed view. I've no idea if you are on the wind up or not. It's all about expectation. If the table ended up like that thee Watford would be delighted, and Stoke would be happy whereas Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea would be disgusted. The difference for utd is that they have not made a move to try and improve things by bringing in a manager the club and the fans are behind, and utd haven't. The idea that all football fans have equal expectation of their club is ridiculous.

All football fans want to win games. That's what I'm referring to. How did you feel after Real embarassed Liverpool last season? Did you think, "oh well, at least we got to the CL group stages" or were you pissed off? I was pissed off because Liverpool lost. I don't care that Real are better, richer or have spent more

Of course Watford fans would be happy to finish 7th/8th, I dont dispute that. My point regarding them was that since Ferguson left and United's blip began, Watford fans have probably suffered significantly more lows than United fans

RobertKK · 20-02-2016 09:52PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Hate this United are not a sacking club ****.

Boy ****ing Jesus no other club in world would put up with this **** week in week out.

You get a few digs from other set of supporters who do the ****ing same.

We have given him more then enough time. It's now getting to unbelievable embarrassing scale and don't tell me another club would hang, cause I'll show you a liar.

Agree with both of the above posts.

LiamoSail wrote: »

Have a look at the table. Most clubs in the league are putting up with worse than what United have to endure under Van Gael.

Yes he's doing a poor job, and will in all likelihood be sacked at the end of the year, but United fans playing the long suffering fan role is wearing thin. The reality is that all of the big clubs go through similar periods, the fact that it's uncharted territory for a huge number of United fans doesn't make the experience unique

We should not set low standards.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

we are manchester United, we are not Palace, Swansea, Norwich.

Watford coming to Old trafford in 11 days time with the chance to knock us into 9th position, is not beyond impossibility. it wont happen, but its mathematically possible especially given the chance we could lost to Arsenal.

Liverpool sacked their manager 4 months ago, Chelsea did it 2 months ago.

Agree.
I couldn't see the Kilkenny hurling county board accepting this if they were performing as bad as united.
There are certain standards that must be maintained, United have really sunk, and change is needed. I like Van Gaal, but it has not worked out.

DARK-KNIGHT · 20-02-2016 09:53PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

I agree. And United are ****ing up, just as every other club in the world have at one stage in their recent history. The only difference is that this is a new experience for most United fans, and then playing the long suffering fan when all they're experiencing is exacly what fans of every other club experience, is a bit self pitying imo

Lol stroll into the United thread as good as call or generalise us of being whingey ****ers

Not a bother to you fair play

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