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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Any worries about heifers. Forecast not great for weekend.

    5 mil on sat and 3 on Sunday from what I seen this morning.
    Ocean of grass on out farm too and it'd be old leys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    5 mil on sat and 3 on Sunday from what I seen this morning.
    Ocean of grass on out farm too and it'd be old leys

    Any other year you'd shrug your shoulders at that but around here certainly there's no soakage left.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Feb is usually the driest month of the year, only because it's the shortest month.:(

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Do you mean Spring '13?

    Nay think it was Feb 2yrs ago we had a really really wet month. Remember all the abuse the greenfield got ha?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭td5man


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    I fed the yearling freisian heifers this afternoon and put in a bale of silage into the ring feeder. I do it over a gate into the house where the heifers are.
    The bales usually split off the fork when I'm taking the barrel wrap plastic off it and I can keep the heifers back when it falls off. This bale didn't split and I got back in the tractor and tipped it into the feeder. I went off on the tractor and bedded the other sheds with straw. Then I came back to let out the heifers to a trough with meal outside the shed and there was one heifer with her head caught under the silage. I was able to dig her head out of the silage by hand but it was too late she was dead. She must of smothered. I never saw her stuck in the feeder from the tractor as the rest of the heifers were around her.
    I was always careful to make sure they are away from the feeder when tipping in the bale but its hard to do it from the tractor and the bale usually splits off the loader when i'm on the ground and can keep them away. I'm mad with myself that I didn't check on them again when I tipped in the bale or got back sooner. I was getting on so well this year and really coasting ahead.

    A well as long as it wasn't inside the door of the house.
    But phcuk it anyway.:(

    The knackery were here one day and they had 4 or 5 big simmental cows in the lorry that the same had happened to.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    We're on/off grazing here. Ground very tender and covers high.

    Our version is

    Cows out to break at 8.30 in to cubicles 12

    Milk 3.45 and back to new break, gap closed at 4.15 or so. Cows brought back in to cubicles at 7.30pm.

    Cows on 5kg 12%p nuts with no silage. Cows were kept in on Tues night as was spilling, got a tiny bit if silage.

    We were feeding limited silage last week and clean out was crap. Vastly improved with silage out of diet.

    Every time we move the break its a compromise between small enough to clean out and big enough not to plough.

    I'm doing the break fences morning and evening myself, it's easier than eating the bollix off some one else if it's wrong :)

    10% grazed to date, way behind target. I think the consequence may be a tonne less grown this year. Can't have it all I suppose.

    Slurry is becoming a right pain, moving drops here and there to get relief.

    Our official start of calving was Feb 14 for cows and Feb 7 for heifers and we have approx 35% calved to date. Unreal amount of bull calves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    We're on/off grazing here. Ground very tender and covers high.

    Our version is

    Cows out to break at 8.30 in to cubicles 12

    Milk 3.45 and back to new break, gap closed at 4.15 or so. Cows brought back in to cubicles at 7.30pm.

    Cows on 5kg 12%p nuts with no silage. Cows were kept in on Tues night as was spilling, got a tiny bit if silage.

    We were feeding limited silage last week and clean out was crap. Vastly improved with silage out of diet.

    Every time we move the break its a compromise between small enough to clean out and big enough not to plough.

    I'm doing the break fences morning and evening myself, it's easier than eating the bollix off some one else if it's wrong :)

    10% grazed to date, way behind target. I think the consequence may be a tonne less grown this year. Can't have it all I suppose.

    Slurry is becoming a right pain, moving drops here and there to get relief.

    Our official start of calving was Feb 14 for cows and Feb 7 for heifers and we have approx 35% calved to date. Unreal amount of bull calves.

    Have you autumn and spring in one group? Do you have a fresh group/ out of tank group inside full time? No space to keep.a fresh/ out of tank group here something I think I'll work on if I can. Any worries with body condition with on off grazing without silage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    We're on/off grazing here. Ground very tender and covers high.

    Our version is

    Cows out to break at 8.30 in to cubicles 12

    Milk 3.45 and back to new break, gap closed at 4.15 or so. Cows brought back in to cubicles at 7.30pm.

    Cows on 5kg 12%p nuts with no silage. Cows were kept in on Tues night as was spilling, got a tiny bit if silage.

    We were feeding limited silage last week and clean out was crap. Vastly improved with silage out of diet.

    Every time we move the break its a compromise between small enough to clean out and big enough not to plough.

    I'm doing the break fences morning and evening myself, it's easier than eating the bollix off some one else if it's wrong :)

    10% grazed to date, way behind target. I think the consequence may be a tonne less grown this year. Can't have it all I suppose.

    Slurry is becoming a right pain, moving drops here and there to get relief.

    Our official start of calving was Feb 14 for cows and Feb 7 for heifers and we have approx 35% calved to date. Unreal amount of bull calves.

    I had an unreal amount of bulls this year too but that's life still should end up with 30% replacement rate in 2 years time. Nothing grazed yet because I still have a week of soya to use. Half the farm is spread with urea . Probably leave the cows out into land thats going to be used for whole crop first . Doesn't matter too much if they do much damage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Milked out wrote: »
    Have you autumn and spring in one group? Do you have a fresh group/ out of tank group inside full time? No space to keep.a fresh/ out of tank group here something I think I'll work on if I can. Any worries with body condition with on off grazing without silage?

    Yes autumn calvers in there but very few and ideally should be seperate but less than 5% of total herd so they can lump it or like it.

    Yes all out of tank cows are seperate in cubicles beside parlour. Milked last and eligible cows tested daily for antibiotics and cell (cut) prior to release for tank. Real time saver when seperate and idiot proof, if anything can be fully idiot proof. They are also marked with yellow tape on tails in case of mix up.

    Yes Bcs would be a real worry and that's another part of the compromise. This on/off thing can't go on indefinitely as intakes and demand will increase daily. Hope it's short lived. I must graze to have grass back in early April


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    blackdog1 wrote: »
    I had an unreal amount of bulls this year too but that's life still should end up with 30% replacement rate in 2 years time. Nothing grazed yet because I still have a week of soya to use. Half the farm is spread with urea . Probably leave the cows out into land thats going to be used for whole crop first . Doesn't matter too much if they do much damage

    I'd hold the soya and get out now. If you don't graze grazing ground first you'll be short till May. Should you consider going to paddocks now to get them going again and using the ground your ploughing go night grazing or wet days?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    We're on/off grazing here. Ground very tender and covers high.

    Our version is

    Cows out to break at 8.30 in to cubicles 12

    Milk 3.45 and back to new break, gap closed at 4.15 or so. Cows brought back in to cubicles at 7.30pm.

    Cows on 5kg 12%p nuts with no silage. Cows were kept in on Tues night as was spilling, got a tiny bit if silage.

    We were feeding limited silage last week and clean out was crap. Vastly improved with silage out of diet.

    Every time we move the break its a compromise between small enough to clean out and big enough not to plough.

    I'm doing the break fences morning and evening myself, it's easier than eating the bollix off some one else if it's wrong :)

    10% grazed to date, way behind target. I think the consequence may be a tonne less grown this year. Can't have it all I suppose.

    Slurry is becoming a right pain, moving drops here and there to get relief.

    Our official start of calving was Feb 14 for cows and Feb 7 for heifers and we have approx 35% calved to date. Unreal amount of bull calves.

    One thing I should add is Scc is gone to pot. Cmtd whole herd on Monday and all cows released are also tested. Can't find a thing.

    But feck it, we'll get it sorted. Eldest boys birthday today, he had s difficult time last few yrs with some other boys but thankfully it's sorted this year with a few changes being made. I'm going to celebrate the fact that he's now thriving and enjoying being at school again with Mrs Frazz and the kids. :)

    Things do work out. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,781 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    One thing I should add is Scc is gone to pot. Cmtd whole herd on Monday and all cows released are also tested. Can't find a thing.

    But feck it, we'll get it sorted. Eldest boys birthday today, he had s difficult time last few yrs with some other boys but thankfully it's sorted this year with a few changes being made. I'm going to celebrate the fact that he's now thriving and enjoying being at school again with Mrs Frazz and the kids. :)

    Things do work out. :)
    Does scc not always rise at this time of year, mine went up to 301 the other day, back down to 221 today , had been under 150 for ages before that. Happy birthday to your son. Eldest lad here went through crap at school too but is flying now, very stressful at the time though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    5 mil on sat and 3 on Sunday from what I seen this morning.
    Ocean of grass on out farm too and it'd be old leys

    In westmeath? More like a risk of 25 or 30 mm unfortunately theres going to be a very active cold front stuck over the country all day Saturday and Sunday
    It will be a few hundred miles wide wiggling a bit north and south and those stuck under it for both days will see floods of rain
    Its general movement eventually will be to the east
    To the north and south of it therell be huge temperature contrasts,up to 13c on the south coast and only 5c in the far north
    Ulster and North Connacht will see least rain and the south coast might clear at times while the rest of us are still wet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    In westmeath? More like a risk of 25 or 30 mm unfortunately theres going to be a very active cold front stuck over the country all day Saturday and Sunday
    It will be a few hundred miles wide wiggling a bit north and south and those stuck under it for both days will see floods of rain
    Its general movement eventually will be to the east
    To the north and south of it therell be huge temperature contrasts,up to 13c on the south coast and only 5c in the far north
    Ulster and North Connacht will see least rain and the south coast might clear at times while the rest of us are still wet
    Do you pass much faith in yr.no?

    We'll play it by ear see how it goes.
    Cows gone out tonight any way.
    Out from 8 am to 4 today and did minimal marking.
    Had no bloody water though :(
    We have a 2 inch main line here and reduces to 1 inch and then 3/4 inch. Join blew off on 2 inch line right over a headland drain.
    75 cows had the 200g through well emptied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,781 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Do you pass much faith in yr.no?

    We'll play it by ear see how it goes.
    Cows gone out tonight any way.
    Out from 8 am to 4 today and did minimal marking.
    Had no bloody water though :(
    We have a 2 inch main line here and reduces to 1 inch and then 3/4 inch. Join blew off on 2 inch line right over a headland drain.
    75 cows had the 200g through well emptied.
    If wheatenbriar says its going to rain it will, he knows his stuff. Did you use up all the maize?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    All work and no play is making for a dull calving, found out this afternoon we have no college tomorrow so off to Dublin on a spur of the moment to meet up with a few lads from Waterford for a mates birthday and the darts. Back home for dinner tomorrow with a sore head and facing into a weekend of 4 milkings a day, typing this is making me feel foolish!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    If wheatenbriar says its going to rain it will, he knows his stuff. Did you use up all the maize?

    Nearly. About 3 days of it left. Giving cow 3 kg of it. 4kg 16% and rest in grass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    C0N0R wrote: »
    All work and no play is making for a dull calving, found out this afternoon we have no college tomorrow so off to Dublin on a spur of the moment to meet up with a few lads from Waterford for a mates birthday and the darts. Back home for dinner tomorrow with a sore head and facing into a weekend of 4 milkings a day, typing this is making me feel foolish!
    Off to dub myself next Thursday night for the birthday and have a big macra session in the local next sat night
    Hope the cows stay quite. Not looking likely though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Milking 2 rows of cows atm and I was out in the yard putting in the second round when the first cow in the first row discovered the gate was open so all off out and clusters off all over the place:mad:

    I managed to close the gate and kept them in a small yard while I got the second round in and then drove them in. No idea which jars had inhibitors/high scc/fresh calvers so all had to come out:mad::mad:

    Really cross with myself because I always make sure the gates are closed and the parlour ready for the next milking. No idea how it happened:mad::mad::mad:

    Just got a call from a neighbour who called in today to look at the ACRs while I wasn't around. He mustn't have closed the gate:mad::mad:.

    You would imagine a farmer would have enough cop-on to close gates he found closed.

    Feck sake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,047 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Timmaay wrote:
    Nay think it was Feb 2yrs ago we had a really really wet month. Remember all the abuse the greenfield got ha?


    Yeah but fodder isnt as tight this spring though ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Milking 2 rows of cows atm and I was out in the yard putting in the second round when the first cow in the first row discovered the gate was open so all off out and clusters off all over the place:mad:

    I managed to close the gate and kept them in a small yard while I got the second round in and then drove them in. No idea which jars had inhibitors/high scc/fresh calvers so all had to come out:mad::mad:

    Really cross with myself because I always make sure the gates are closed and the parlour ready for the next milking. No idea how it happened:mad::mad::mad:

    Just got a call from a neighbour who called in today to look at the ACRs while I wasn't around. He mustn't have closed the gate:mad::mad:.

    You would imagine a farmer would have enough cop-on to close gates he found closed.

    Feck sake.

    Springs on the parlour gates here aren't great, there's one big old boss of a cow who is always trying to swings her head around to try and rob meal from the 2nd trough, in doing so her shoulder puts pressure on the gate, and if the spring hasn't closed right it can burst open, and twice the whole fcuking row has pulled forward enough to pull all the clusters off. Right pain in the arse, no jars here so at least so no fear of keeping a full row of milk for no reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Yes autumn calvers in there but very few and ideally should be seperate but less than 5% of total herd so they can lump it or like it.

    Yes all out of tank cows are seperate in cubicles beside parlour. Milked last and eligible cows tested daily for antibiotics and cell (cut) prior to release for tank. Real time saver when seperate and idiot proof, if anything can be fully idiot proof. They are also marked with yellow tape on tails in case of mix up.

    Yes Bcs would be a real worry and that's another part of the compromise. This on/off thing can't go on indefinitely as intakes and demand will increase daily. Hope it's short lived. I must graze to have grass back in early April

    Doing simillar here but silage is offered day and night .cows head straight out after milking in am out all day if dry ,any way iffy back in at 12/1 o clock ,locked away from silage at 3 milked at 4.30 and back out again till I open paddock At 9.30 and cows back to shed where they have silage till 3/4 o clock am .silage is too notch 76+ Dmd and over 40 dm.fed on average just over 5 kg of 16% p nut fty in parlour .different type cow so don't want to overstretch them in early lactation .weather is really disheartening ,just when I get a good day or 2 u get a good nights rain or bastard showers .clean out in paddocks I'm now 90% happy with all things considered .the time and effort getting cows to grass day and night is well worth it though ,solids for month averaging 4.73 fat 3.82 p scc 56 .63% calved in just under 3 weeks
    Slurry now critical ,mixed 2 tanks this afternoon and contractor on way in am to put 3 k gallons per acre on the 14% of milk block I've currently grazed .he has a big t 7 new Holland ,wide tyres and 2800 gallons offset drawbar tank which is unbelievably easy on field ,I'd literally plough the place with my small tractor and 1600 gallon wheelbarrow!!!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭Mehaffey1


    4 heifers empty out of 149, can't believe this!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Just reading the editorial in the Journal and Justin McCarthy says Glanbia are at an advanced stage of developing a farm finance model.

    Anyone have any idea what that might be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Mehaffey1 wrote: »
    4 heifers empty out of 149, can't believe this!

    Great going ,how many weeks serving them ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭Mehaffey1


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Great going ,how many weeks serving them ??

    No idea they were away on the run off but I'll find out, guessing it'd probably be over 7 weeks. Had no confidence since last year's scan was very poor, condition across all stock must be a lot better.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 607 ✭✭✭jack o shea


    i have moved expected turn out for cows from 1st march to paddys day to easter sunday and now to the august bank holiday, sickening weather, tuesday really ****ed the whole thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Just reading the editorial in the Journal and Justin McCarthy says Glanbia are at an advanced stage of developing a farm finance model.

    Anyone have any idea what that might be?

    Will be announced in about 3 wks with expected roll out in May


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,781 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    i have moved expected turn out for cows from 1st march to paddys day to easter sunday and now to the august bank holiday, sickening weather, tuesday really ****ed the whole thing.
    Normal turnout here would be March. The good thing is theres plenty of grass there for when we do go out. Haven't even thought of putting them out yet. Loads of silage in pits.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Cow I dried off last week with a bad enough case of ecoli mastitis uuughh. Defo not what I need during calving. Another reason I need to pull the bull earlier, so I'm not bloody drying cows off during calving, and running risks like this.


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