Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

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I don't want Mourinho....I can't believe that he is the only person who could fix it but I suppose the problem I see is that do we have the people in charge making the decisions to find a guy, who maybe isn't immediately obvious to the likes of us?
Like the football consultancy branch of the board appears to be SAF and SBC (maybe there are more?)...do they have their finger on the pulse of every league in Europe, knowing the up and coming managers? David Gill maybe still has an input...
Ed's tactic appears to be big names for big dough (LVG included) which is all well and good for a bit of a buzz on transfer deadline day but it may not be what we need at this point in time.

Like from my own perspective, with the EPL being the league I am most familiar with I would put the contenders (other than Mourinho) as Pochetino, Hughes and I really like the gatch of Eddie Howe... Giggs is obviously a contender for other reasons.

I'm going to assume that a global company like UNited has such a list from every league...

Ironically I think a great person to pick the next coach would be LVG, with his acumen, publicly he has said Giggs but if you gave him his pick of Europe he might come up with someone different.

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

jose was in romans pocket.....

that was obvious.. give him the funds and free reign at a club and i am confident he will bring success back.

the next few weeks are critical lvg needs to be shown door now no more nice ceo and bring the mercenary in..... we need to be ruthless.

Agreed. Dangle the offer of having the control Fergie had and the opportunity of creating his own dynasty, (which he was never going to get second time round at Chelsea, and 3 years in the job is as near as you get to a dynasty at Real) and it's a different ball game for Jose. One he would relish and thrive on.

zorro2566 wrote: »

With this news and his injury, he might not reach or exceed Bobby Charltons goal scoring record.

Good

Howard the Duck wrote: »

I really don't see the problem with Woodward and why people are trying to blame the current form on him. I'm sure he wasn't the only person on the board that wanted LVG. LVG was a proven manager off the back of a good performance in the World Cup. He brought in LVG and gave him lots of money to spend and when things haven't gone very well he's stuck by the manager.

I think he is right to stick with LVG at least until the end of the season and if things don't work out with LVG and a new manager is brought in i think Woodward would work well with them.

I think you've mixed up your location. You ARE the crazy person on the bus.

Howard the Duck wrote: »

Very good gotta give you that one. Can i ask why you think Woodward is to blame? do you think both him and LVG should go?

Van Gaal should have been gone a long long time ago, this isn't even up for debate, the man was a busted flush months ago and everybody knows it. So when something is so obvious to everybody and it isn't addressed by those with the authority its perfectly natural to wonder if those with the authority know what they are doing.

Van Gaal has been crap since he got here, if Woodward had accepted that reality 6 months ago and sacked him nobody would be here talking about Woodward making poor managerial choices. Fans know that every appointment is a risk, nobody would really blame Ed for an experienced manager making such a hash of things, they would move on and focus on the next manager.

But Woodward hasn't done anything, he is a rabbit frozen in the headlights. The guy who should have been sacked months ago is still in charge and to the surprise of nobody we are getting even worse. Why hasn't Woodward acted? How much better off would we be with a new manager able to motivate those players? Why have we not acted when this season was completely salvageable? Those questions are all on the man in authority here, one Ed Woodward.

There is a toddler taking a great big dump in the middle of a crowded room. No point shouting at the toddler, you need to ask what is the mother doing...

Korat wrote: »

Unfortunately he's the Glazer's boy so we're stuck with him until there's a change of ownership at the club.

Don't agree with all of that - the side LVG started last season with should have done better, and it was his own decisions that cost him, imo. Shouldn't have sold Rafael, and should have got far more out of players like Di Maria and RVP.

Also, there are rumours that Woodward could be getting some 'help' before next season.

Injuries have killed us this season but I believe part of that is self-inflicted. I looked at last nights team and though to myself who we could have had on the pitch. Rafael at RB, Evans at CB, Nani, Welbeck (although I wasn't against him going and given who we had at the time it made sense for him to go) and Chicharito. The squad could have been far stronger than it is right now and we wouldn't have to throw young inexperienced lads in so often.

Pheonix10 wrote: »

I know we defo need to a replacement but there aren't many great options...who would you go for?

Kane.
Lewandowski.
Aubameyang.
Icardi.
Dybala.
Higuain.
Lukaku.
Griezmann.
Cavanni.
Lacazette.

Rooney hasn't be a top world star in terms of actual performances in a long time - there are many players who could effectively replace him. Not even just that list.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Woodward didn't work well with Moyes, and hasn't worked well with LVG - why the assumption he will work well with another manager?

Do you think LVG is going to turn around this seasons horrible form? If not, why not sack him - things are only getting worse under him imo and he should have been binned 2 months ago.

Under Woodwards stewardship of the club we have gone from champions to outside of the CL, twice. That isn't all his fault, obviously - but he has to accept blame for the current situation at United - ultimately he is in charge of the club on a day to day basis. Even beyond the first team the rest of the club is a joke - the scouting and youth scouting is terrible. There are some moves being made to partially rectify this, but even there we have massive question marks over what Woodward is doing.

It is insane to absolve Woodward of any blame for the mess United are in.

Yes i think Woodward could work well with a new manager, what does a manager want from a chairman? he wants money to buy players mainly and Woodward gives that and seems to give managers his full support.
Regarding the club falling from Champions to outside the CL places under his stewardship let's not forget the biggest reason this happened and that's Ferguson leaving. And Moyes was Ferguson's man not Woodward's.

Do i think LVG can turn the season around? Yes i think he has a chance and this is probably where 90% of Utd fans will disagree with me but they are 6 points outside the CL spots. Maybe a couple of seasons ago this would have been too much but in a league where everyone is dropping points and there are 36 points to play for i think there is a chance and that's why i'd give him until the end of the season

I don't know much about the youth scouting but we seem to be bringing young players through to the first team at the moment. Perhaps sometimes too soon but maybe injuries can be blamed on that.

Maybe i'm an optimist but i think LVG is a very good manager who has made some mistakes but has the ability to turn it around.I think the biggest problem with the Utd job is the pressure from the press, It's like they don't have an England manager to harass so LVG will do for now and i think that pressure will cause him to leave or be sacked.