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Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭naughto


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Bizarre selection of Donal Vaughan at full forward,not greatly surprised Shane McHale has gone into the corner as opposed to Padraig O Hora.

    Vaughan is not a full forward I think he will struggle to make the team when we have every one back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭naughto


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Bizarre selection of Donal Vaughan at full forward,not greatly surprised Shane McHale has gone into the corner as opposed to Padraig O Hora.

    Vaughan is not a full forward I think he will struggle to make the team when we have every one back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Little bit disappointed that Conor Loftus isn't starting and I've no idea what's going on with Donal Vaughan. Interested to see Evan Regan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Just reading on the Journal there about how between Cork, Kerry and Dublin that the league winners won the AI four out of the last 7 years.
    And Donegals poor form in 13 continued into the championship.
    With that in mind i was thinking that a league win would do wonders for Mayo, I know people run it down, but it's a very important competition imo, Cork seem to start the league well in the last few years too.

    Best of luck today/tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Stoner wrote: »
    Just reading on the Journal there about how between Cork, Kerry and Dublin that the league winners won the AI four out of the last 7 years.
    And Donegals poor form in 13 continued into the championship.
    With that in mind i was thinking that a league win would do wonders for Mayo, I know people run it down, but it's a very important competition imo, Cork seem to start the league well in the last few years too.

    Best of luck today/tomorrow.

    I think if there was a fully fit squad and no club commitments and what have you, then a serious crack at winning the league might have been on the cards. As it stands with injuries and players tied up with clubs, survival in division one now seems to be the more realistic prospect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Stoner wrote: »
    Just reading on the Journal there about how between Cork, Kerry and Dublin that the league winners won the AI four out of the last 7 years.
    And Donegals poor form in 13 continued into the championship.
    With that in mind i was thinking that a league win would do wonders for Mayo, I know people run it down, but it's a very important competition imo, Cork seem to start the league well in the last few years too.

    Best of luck today/tomorrow.

    Had the old management remained in place then a proper go at winning the league should have been an ambition.

    Same goes for '13 and '14 after the AI losses under Horan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    David Brady was saying the same thing this morning on tv3 . League trophies would be a very welcome boost .

    After Donegal and dublins performance last night and the dubs coming to castkebar next week . It could put us in a tough position until injuries and club commitments come to assist .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,585 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    I wasn't expecting a win but this performance is pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,424 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Hennelly good
    Conor o shea good
    The rest not good
    Move on :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,545 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Pathetic tbh. Very few players showed any hunger to reel the score back when Cork pulled away.

    Conor O'Shea looking great though, class couple of points.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Obviously i'm not from Mayo, but i'm pretty annoyed that they let Keegan stay on after the blow to the head for so long.

    I get that he's captain, but at the time ye were 13 points down. To put a guy in danger of a serious brain injury, by leaving him on is madness.

    Doctors/Management need to be stronger there IMO. I just hope he's ok. Never nice to see any lad get a head injury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,424 ✭✭✭✭km79


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Obviously i'm not from Mayo, but i'm pretty annoyed that they let Keegan stay on after the blow to the head for so long.

    I get that he's captain, but at the time ye were 13 points down. To put a guy in danger of a serious brain injury, by leaving him on is madness.

    Doctors/Management need to be stronger there IMO. I just hope he's ok. Never nice to see any lad get a head injury.

    Will be surprised if he is not concussed and out for next weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    km79 wrote: »
    Will be surprised if he is not concussed and out for next weekend

    What are the guidelines with concussion in the GAA? Are you automatically out for the next game?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Cork seem so much hungrier and fitter.The amount of space Cork players were given was amazing,the players were standing way off.

    Aidan O Shea's introduction did make a difference.Positives,Conor O Shea was excellent,Robert Hennelly kept the score respectable.The second penalty seemed a tad harsh.Evan Regan kicked a few decent dress but there were some pretty poor wides.
    Very apprehensive of next Saturday night.Lee Keegan should definitely have been called ashore.I can't see how he'll be fit for action after what appears to be an obvious concussion injury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Meh. Gutted/not100% fit panel and totally behind in terms of training put in together, so I'm neither surprised nor all that worried, tbh. Cork looked fitter and more organized probably due to having about month's more work put in.

    Conor O'Shea did well as did Robbie Hennelly. Lee Keegan should have been taken off immediately after the clash of heads.

    On a side note, the pitch looked terrible.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,950 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    I know its only the league and we were at home with a strong line up, but I was expecting a bit more from Mayo.

    There wasn't much fight in ye. A fine crowd travelled down for the match but they didn't get a lot to shout about.

    With the dubs up next I hope ye give a better performance at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,208 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    We need a few of these type results in January/February just to keep a bit of realism in our hopes for this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    kippy wrote: »
    We need a few of these type results in January/February just to keep a bit of realism in our hopes for this year.

    That's a daft statement.

    A win today would not have made a blind bit of difference to the the perception of our hopes for this year.

    We won in Kerry 12 months ago, did that have a negative affect on anyone ?

    The game was what it was, a team with a few important players injured and a few new startetes v a Cork team that was stronger and more determined and at home.
    Could Mayo have done better of course, but coming out of that saying its good we lost to keep a bit of realism is just stupid.

    The goal should be Div 1 survival, and there is still ample opportunity for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    That's a daft statement.

    A win today would not have made a blind bit of difference to the the perception of our hopes for this year.

    We won in Kerry 12 months ago, did that have a negative affect on anyone ?

    The game was what it was, a team with a few important players injured and a few new startetes v a Cork team that was stronger and more determined and at home.
    Could Mayo have done better of course, but coming out of that saying its good we lost to keep a bit of realism is just stupid.

    The goal should be Div 1 survival, and there is still ample opportunity for that.

    Why do you think that should be the goal? You have often advocated on here how Mayo should be saying that their goal is an All-Ireland and how it is not arrogant to say that is your goal. Why not apply that to this year's league as well? Really, I think Mayo should be aiming for something more than just survival if they are to have any chance of an All-Ireland later in the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Absolutely,all this talk of Mayo winning the league was never realistic what with the crazy list of injuries and club tied players anything else,Stephen Rochford confirmed division one survival is the aim.

    It is tad disappointing that some of these new lads did not put their hands up for a starting spot.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,950 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Why do you think that should be the goal? You have often advocated on here how Mayo should be saying that their goal is an All-Ireland and how it is not arrogant to say that is your goal. Why not apply that to this year's league as well? Really, I think Mayo should be aiming for something more than just survival if they are to have any chance of an All-Ireland later in the year.

    But the league has no bearing on the All Ireland. Cork normally do very well in the lge but not in our quest for Sam. Kerry normally struggle in the lge but will always be there or thereabouts for Sam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Why do you think that should be the goal? You have often advocated on here how Mayo should be saying that their goal is an All-Ireland and how it is not arrogant to say that is your goal. Why not apply that to this year's league as well? Really, I think Mayo should be aiming for something more than just survival if they are to have any chance of an All-Ireland later in the year.

    As I said earlier if they did not have a new manager in place then yea, a league title should be an ambition.

    But with a new manager I don't expect that, there had to be a bedding in period.

    The difference between 4th and 6th I'd not great so of they get to a SF great, they could reevaluate, but the minimum should be survival and everything after that is bonus.

    Maybe I should have said "minimal" rather than "goal" in the post you quoted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Kevin McLoughlin and Lee Keegan both expected to be out next week for the Dublin match. Reckon that one will be a write off too. Wouldn't be surprised if they're looking ahead to the Donegal match as an opportunity to salvage something.

    Questions should be asked of the medical team over their decision to allow Lee Keegan to play on after the clash of heads. Absolutely crazy stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,735 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    Awful stuff today. Long journey home from Cork now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    We're way off in terms of fitness, and that's before you even consider the injury and selection issues. Realistically we're looking at 0 from 3 here and then try to make up the ground in the last four games. On the upside in terms of league survival Down look poor and Roscommon are already in trouble having lost one of their 'must win' games at home to Monaghan (the FBD was clearly played at a very low standard this year). So, even if we lose the first three games we'll still have it in our own hands with games against the two other most likely relegation candidates still to play.

    Longer term we just need to make sure we are up to speed and have pretty much everyone back by June. The real season for us this year starts on the 18th of June so there's nearly five months available to catch up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,852 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Not much to take from that, apart from Robbie preventing what would have been a cricket score.

    Unfortunately, not a lot to look forward to next weekend either, the Dubs looked really sharp last night.

    I caught Rochford's post match interview on Mid-West, sadly it did nothing for my current pessimism......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Not much to take from that, apart from Robbie preventing what would have been a cricket score.

    Unfortunately, not a lot to look forward to next weekend either, the Dubs looked really sharp last night.

    I caught Rochford's post match interview on Mid-West, sadly it did nothing for my current pessimism......

    I heard him on Newstalk. Seemed to come across as very cagey or nervy when they asked him about not taking Keegan off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    That's a daft statement.

    A win today would not have made a blind bit of difference to the the perception of our hopes for this year.

    We won in Kerry 12 months ago, did that have a negative affect on anyone ?

    The game was what it was, a team with a few important players injured and a few new startetes v a Cork team that was stronger and more determined and at home.
    Could Mayo have done better of course, but coming out of that saying its good we lost to keep a bit of realism is just stupid.

    The goal should be Div 1 survival, and there is still ample opportunity for that.

    Top 4 in the country looking for survival:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    With down Monaghan and Roscommon away .
    It makes it difficult to think past a mid table or relegation battle.

    players seemed to be lacking game time and cohesion . Cork were much sharper in terms of awareness and simple tracking of players to closing out any opportunities .
    I would say 0 from 3 is very realistic just now .
    Any word of hopeful returns to the panel over the next 6 weeks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭mass_debater




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