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Be still my beating heart

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Firedance wrote: »
    :D:D I don't think tang will be too happy being lumped in with the auld lads

    am very jealous but as long as I get the next date it'll all be fine :pac:

    To feckin right, the Lemon is at LEAST 15 years my senior. I haven't reached male 40's yet, but in aero2k's defence he hasn't met me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Watch that groin. Believe me the last thing you want is a torn groin and to be out of running for weeks on end! Also if you aren't feeling well and feeling sick then don't run! You run the risk of doing more harm than good.

    Well done on the long run. What do you plan on getting the long run up to in training in prep for the 39 mile race?

    Firstly, I'm in absolute shock that you said something complimentary to me! A weekend of firsts!

    The groin isn't anything I'm concerned about at all. Just achey but after the recovery run it felt better and tonight it feels perfect.

    The long run will go up to 5ish hours so I guess we're looking at 31 miles or so. Things can change depending on how I cope with the training so nothing is set in stone.

    Edit: you are completely right about running when not feeling well. Can't promise I won't do it again though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭aero2k


    tang1 wrote: »
    To feckin right, the Lemon is at LEAST 15 years my senior. I haven't reached male 40's yet, but in aero2k's defence he hasn't met me.

    I just assumed - you come across as so...mature.:) Your best years are well in front of you so. The warning still stands, I wasn't expecting the encounter to be so physically demanding. Young wans...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭Utdfan20titles


    aero2k wrote: »
    I wasn't expecting the encounter to be so physically demanding.

    And how was the run.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭aero2k


    And how was the run.....

    Like the lady woman herself, amazing.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    tang1 wrote: »
    To feckin right, the Lemon is at LEAST 15 years my senior. I haven't reached male 40's yet, but in aero2k's defence he hasn't met me.

    Based on that comment, sounds like you're close. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Based on that comment, sounds like you're close. :pac:

    Three years left as of next month so still only a young fella!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Ososlo wrote: »
    . I look forward to our next outing! I even got a gift at the end and an invite back to his gaff:eek: He's a fast mover:D

    I work with the guy............. and if he meets me in the park he just runs by me.
    Sometimes I get a nod.


    Superb run btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭aero2k


    I work with the guy............. and if he meets me in the park he just runs by me.
    Sometimes I get a nod.


    Superb run btw.

    A wise man once said "never mix business and pleasure".:)

    And yes, it was a superb run - Ososlo, if your cadence is 180 that's close to 50,000 steps - a long way from wondering if you could manage 4 miles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,108 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    tang1 wrote: »
    Three years left as of next month so still only a young fella!!!

    So you've been a master for 2 years :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭diego_b


    28 mile training run, have to say the thoughts of that stuck with me a bit over the weekend after seeing it on Strava, epic work!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    BeepBeep67 wrote: »
    So you've been a master for 2 years :)

    I care not to view it that way!!!

    Edit: Masters is over 40 on roads, I'm to slow to run track so don't fall under that qualification!! Panic over!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Firstly, I'm in absolute shock that you said something complimentary to me! A weekend of firsts!

    The groin isn't anything I'm concerned about at all. Just achey but after the recovery run it felt better and tonight it feels perfect.

    The long run will go up to 5ish hours so I guess we're looking at 31 miles or so. Things can change depending on how I cope with the training so nothing is set in stone.

    Edit: you are completely right about running when not feeling well. Can't promise I won't do it again though...

    Complimentary stuff happens when it is due. Only then. I don't think congratulating every run helps a runner to be honest. Hopefully the training goes well between now and the ultra. Hopefully see you running a good marathon after that as I think there is a lot of unused potential there in my opinion. Hopefully you will bring it out in the near future. The ultra might help you if you plan to target a marathon after as you'll have so much endurance built up as a starting point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Ososlo, there was no need to mention David Bowie - you had me at "Tom Waits":).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Complimentary stuff happens when it is due. Only then. I don't think congratulating every run helps a runner to be honest. Hopefully the training goes well between now and the ultra. Hopefully see you running a good marathon after that as I think there is a lot of unused potential there in my opinion. Hopefully you will bring it out in the near future. The ultra might help you if you plan to target a marathon after as you'll have so much endurance built up as a starting point.

    +1 on the bold bit. If you're naturally blessed with endurance, it's a reasonable assumption to make that speed might be lacking, however have a look at the mile times of some of the great marathoners (incl messrs. Treacy and Kiernan) to expose that myth.

    One thing at a time though, there's no rush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭TRR_the_turd


    aero2k wrote: »
    have a look at the mile times of some of the great marathoners (incl messrs. Treacy and Kiernan) to expose that myth.

    not disagreeing with the sentiment but Kiernan has a 3.59 mile and Tracey is very close as far as I remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭aero2k


    not disagreeing with the sentiment but Kiernan has a 3.59 mile and Tracey is very close as far as I remember.

    Dying with a broken heart cold here so won't Google but I think Treacy might be 3:55/56. Rod Dixon would be another of that vintage who makes the point, he won an Olympic 1500m bronze. It seems that the aerobic ability gained from track races can be helpful for longer distances as well. Conversely I believe that someone who first displays an ability over (very) long distances might be able to display a similar phenomenon in reverse. All assuming a) it's something that interests them and b) they train appropriately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    aero2k wrote: »
    Dying with a broken heart cold here so won't Google but I think Treacy might be 3:55/56. Rod Dixon would be another of that vintage who makes the point, he won an Olympic 1500m bronze. It seems that the aerobic ability gained from track races can be helpful for longer distances as well. Conversely I believe that someone who first displays an ability over (very) long distances might be able to display a similar phenomenon in reverse. All assuming a) it's something that interests them and b) they train appropriately.

    Totally false. Treacy does not appear on the Irish all-time list for 1500m or the mile outdoors (sub 3:42.00 and sub 4:00.9) or indoors (sub 3:48.0 and sub 4:02.0).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Monday 11 January
    Another disturbed night in bed. Was in Kilkenny and couldn't sleep. I found an old sleeping tablet which my sister left in the bedroom over xmas. It was very blue and looked very serious, but I was at the end of my tether with exhaustion so took a chance of taking half of it. It gave me 4 hours sleep, so not great really. But after another hour of tossing and turning I conked out again and my mother had to wake me from my stupor at 11!
    Had a nice final run around Kilkenny City with my brother before his return to NZ. We took in the canal walk, part of the Castle, the mental hospital and environs. Fabulously crisply splendid morning but for me, the world was tinted with sadness after hearing the news about David Bowie.
    am: 5.5 miles @ 9:48
    pm: 5 miles easy @ 9:53
    back in Dublin, local run

    Tuesday 12 January
    am: 4.9 miles easy @ 9:50

    Second time running to work but to my other job so different complicated logistics involved so as not arriving in a sweaty smelly mess. Managed to sort it and it'll be fine going forward.
    Lunchtime: 6.8 miles easy @ 9:49
    Work was pissing me off so just said 'shag it' and left. I decided to just head out towards my sister's from town. Wasn't sure of the route but thought I could figure it out. This was a mistake as I should never underestimate my dreadful sense of direction! The wind was in my face the whole way so it wasn't the mostest pleasantest of runs and looking at the elevation later, I was actually climbing the whole way but didn't realise it at the time. When I got to the Red Cow I was a bit concerned about the best path to take for the Belgard Road and asked advice from a guy who suggested going down towards Ballymount and then lots of other complicated directions. I got very confused as the directions went in one ear and out the other while he was telling me :) Didn't really know where I was going but just sensed it was generally in the right direction. Then I passed who I think was Belcarra going in the other direction but I wasn't 100% sure but we exchanged waves like you do with other runners. Headed on another bit and took a right at a roundabout. Rang my sister who didn't have a bog where I was either (only a mile or two away from her house:)) so no joy there but I felt a force was pushing me in certain direction so just went with it. I was getting a bit worried at one point as I had stopped, and turned around and totally lost any sense of the best way to go. Then ahead, like a mirage I saw the large red letters of B2R (Base to Race) so I knew I was safe :D

    Wednesday 13 January
    am: 5.2 miles easy @ 9:55
    Run to work.
    My backpack is quite heavy even though I've minimised contents as much as possible. I think it's an extra good workout carrying the load however but my shoulders do get a bit achey at times. I need to relax more when running with it I think.
    pm: 5.8 miles easy @ 9:52
    Run home from work

    Thursday 14 January
    am: 2.5 slippy miles @ 10:26

    I don't get it. I really don't. Other people seem to be able to walk and jog on ice, but I just can't. I have absolutely no confidence running in slippy conditions. I was on my way in to work and was sliding all over the paths so called it a day at 2 miles and got the bus to the edge of town where the paths had thawed and ran the rest of the way. Really pissed off that my run was disrupted as it takes a lot of work getting my commute backpack ready and changing in and out of clothes etc. for the sake of a measly 2.5 miles.
    pm: 5.8 miles easy @ 9:53
    The run home was grand. Paths all thawed. Snowing a little but pleasant. I find now that I'm much stronger on the climb up from Gardiner Street all the way to Santry. It's uphill all the way and I used to find it quite tough but now I find my legs feel very strong on the hilly bits.

    Friday 15 January
    I was too wussy to run in the early morning due to the slippy conditions and was busy all day. Toyed with the idea of taking the day off completely as it's 3 weeks since last one but found myself changed into my running gear while I was still trying to decide what to do. Managed to find a route that was mainly dry but a few patches of path were treacherous so walked those. Really enjoyable.
    6 miles easy @ 9:47

    Saturday 16 January
    am: 6 miles easy @ 9:51

    Local loops. My park is finally clear of water. I enjoyed this so much and felt so good, it's hard to put it into words. It was such a novelty running without a backpack too.
    pm: 5.3 miles easy @ 9:36

    Sunday 17 January
    3 miles w/u, 7 miles @ AT (2hr race effort) & cooldown

    As always, slightly apprehensive about this session in the hours preceding it. My car was a few miles away, downhill, so I decided I'd go easy on myself and do 3 laps of park as my warm up and start the AT on the downhill section. As it turned out, I felt great after the warmup so decided to use the slightly more challenging laps of the local park and not to wuss out and run downhill after all. This was a super session. I felt so strong and very relaxed and in control running at the faster pace. As per usual, I ran it by effort and didn't concern myself with the watch at all. I definiltey had another few miles in me at that effort. What surprises me most of all about today's session is the pace of the cool down miles. I know they were net downhill, but still, I'd usually run about 9:40 pace on this route for usual easy runs and today they were sub 9 pace!
    Splits:
    w/u: 10:01 9:34 9:31
    A/T: 8:45 8:35 8:33 8:26 8:20 8:23 8:13
    c/d: 8:58 8:57 8:48 8:52
    13.7 @ 8:51

    72.7 miles weekly total

    Couldn't be happier with how things are going, and I feel fitter and faster than ever even though I'm running more than ever.

    Next up is Staplestown marathon on Saturday which is a training run. I'll have 50+ miles in the legs by the time I run it so won't expect to do anything near my capabilities over 26.2 at this point but I should get a decent (25-30 mins) pb out it without too much bother and do it in or around 4-4.10, but it'll be done progressively and by feel, so whatever happens happens... I am actually really looking forward to it. I might do a few miles after it to bring the total up to 30 miles if I'm feeling good on the day. Let's see!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Neady83


    Ososlo wrote: »

    Next up is Staplestown marathon on Saturday which is a training run.

    I am actually really looking forward to it. I might do a few miles after it to bring the total up to 30 miles if I'm feeling good on the day. Let's see!

    There's not many that would be able to write this in their log :) You're doing amazing and with lots of time in hand to make sure you have the capabilities to run a comfortable ultra in April. Well done on the consistent no-bulls**te training :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Ososlo wrote: »

    Couldn't be happier with how things are going, and I feel fitter and faster than ever even though I'm running more than ever.

    It's great to see your consistent effort being rewarded - long may it continue.

    Best of luck in Staplestown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    aero2k wrote: »
    It's great to see your consistent effort being rewarded - long may it continue.

    Best of luck in Staplestown.

    big + 1 to this :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Neady83 wrote: »
    There's not many that would be able to write this in their log :) You're doing amazing and with lots of time in hand to make sure you have the capabilities to run a comfortable ultra in April. Well done on the consistent no-bulls**te training :)

    thanks so much Neady. All going in the right direction so far! But it's early days! My sister actually signed up for the Half so it's going to be a fun gals weekend away!
    aero2k wrote: »
    It's great to see your consistent effort being rewarded - long may it continue.

    Best of luck in Staplestown.

    Cheers Sean! I might give you a shout for a few miles of the next long one in the Park!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Cheers Sean! I might give you a shout for a few miles of the next long one in the Park!

    NOooooooooooooooo! you broke him last time, my turn next :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Firedance wrote: »
    NOooooooooooooooo! you broke him last time, my turn next :D

    Not to worry FD, the breakage wasn't permanent and I was able to manage a nice 7 miles today - the groin is still a bit tender though.:)

    Hopefully bump into you in the park soon though you do seem to get out very early..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭jake1970


    Best of luck tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    jake1970 wrote: »
    Best of luck tomorrow.

    Ah cheers jake! It's only a little 26.2 mile training run:) so not treating it as a big deal but thank you kindly! I've covered the distance twice now in training but it's still only my 2nd official marathon so hopefully it will be as enjoyable an experience as my first which I absolutely loved! The biggest challenge will be getting out of bed at bloody 6:30 in the morning! I'm a disaster in the mornings!

    Believe it or not, I was just wondering this morning (after reading Graduates' thread) how your injury is and if you're back running?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭RubyK


    Very impressive mileage, best of luck tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    RubyK wrote: »
    Very impressive mileage, best of luck tomorrow.

    Thanks so much Ruby!

    Hope your own training for London is going really well :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Have a great "training run" tomorrow ;) - what pace are you going for?


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