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Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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  • #4742
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    It's 10 years since Liverpool won their last European Cup btw


  • #4743
    Drexel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭Drexel


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    Well thinking we should win it by now is a sense of Right to it.

    Hoe often I'd acceptable? 1 in 5/10/15 years???

    I don't think we should have won it. I never said that. I've said I think we should win it this year. United and Chelsea are a mess atm so it's pretty much between city and us. If we don't win it or make a very good showing of ourselves then another contract shouldn't be coming wengers way.

    With the way it's panning out this year, if we don't I have no shame in admitting il have lost faith in Wenger to ever win it.

    I'm not answering your question about how many leagues because it's a stupid question. Depends on so many factors


  • #4744
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    http://news.arseblog.com/2015/12/wenger-i-dont-know-when-wilshere-will-be-back/

    You had to didn't you:)

    FFS right on cue!

    At this stage hopefully he has a good run when he comes back from injury to get him in the shop window and we sell him for a shedload of cash to Barca. I thought we had lost the constant team "sicknote" when Diaby left, it looks like Wilshire has taken up his mantle!


  • #4745
    Soups123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    In the last 7/8 yeaes Liverpool have won 1 trophy League Cup
    We've won 2 (excluding community shields) so that's wrong

    They won an Fa Cup in 06 and league cup 12 in that time, they won a CL and s Super cup in 05 (I've excluded CS)

    In that time we've one 3 fa cups. If they are in a flux for the period so are we


  • #4746
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    Soups123 wrote: »
    They won an Fa Cup in 06 and league cup 12 in that time, they won a CL and s Super cup in 05 (I've excluded CS)

    In that time we've one 3 fa cups. If they are in a flux for the period so are we

    06 is 9 1/2 years ago


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  • #4747
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    Drexel wrote: »
    I don't think we should have won it. I never said that. I've said I think we should win it this year. United and Chelsea are a mess atm so it's pretty much between city and us. If we don't win it or make a very good showing of ourselves then another contract shouldn't be coming wengers way.

    With the way it's panning out this year, if we don't I have no shame in admitting il have lost faith in Wenger to ever win it.

    I'm not answering your question about how many leagues because it's a stupid question. Depends on so many factors

    But we get- we should be winning the league here so much... Yet no one seems to quantity it


  • #4748
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    Soups123 wrote: »
    They won an Fa Cup in 06 and league cup 12 in that time, they won a CL and s Super cup in 05 (I've excluded CS)

    In that time we've one 3 fa cups. If they are in a flux for the period so are we

    So what was 7/8 about if you are going to go back and start the year of their last UCL success???

    That's cherry picking


  • #4749
    KaiserGunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭KaiserGunner


    I agree with a lot of posters here, this is our best opportunity in years to win the title. Chelsea are out of the picture completely, Man Utd appear to be in disarray.

    This may sound stupid, but say if Man City just about pipped us to the title, I would be extremely disappointed and gutted but I would still be optimistic about next season.
    However imagine if this Man Utd team, Leicester, Spurs or Liverpool won the title this season instead of us?? I would be so deflated it would be unthinkable. I don't think I could get over it and would be thinking that Wenger just can't get us a league title ever again.

    So basically we have a great chance to win it this year and hope we take it, will be one hell of a fight though.


  • #4750
    Soups123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    So what was 7/8 about if you are going to go back and start the year of their last UCL success???

    That's cherry picking

    I said said 7/8 or more? We've won 3 FA cups if that's not a flux then either is theres


  • #4751
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Soups123 wrote: »
    They won an Fa Cup in 06 and league cup 12 in that time, they won a CL and s Super cup in 05 (I've excluded CS)

    In that time we've one 3 fa cups. If they are in a flux for the period so are we

    Yes but in that time we have built a new purpose built stadium and gone through the financial pain after that as well. They still are in the process of expanding their existing ground to the tune of around £300 million.


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  • #4752
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    Here's a secret lads, City will buy, sorry... Win the league


  • #4753
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    Soups123 wrote: »
    I said said 7/8 or more? We've won 3 FA cups if that's not a flux then either is theres

    So just go back to when Liverpiol won the UCL- seems ligit 11 years is a usual period of time for data measurement...


  • #4754
    Soups123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Soups123


    gandalf wrote: »
    Yes but in that time we have built a new purpose built stadium and gone through the financial pain after that as well. They still are in the process of expanding their existing ground to the tune of around £300 million.

    Fully agree but looking at on the field and trophies he's calling Liverpools time as flux but not ours. We are 100% at the cross road this season either we have a really good go or a change is needed

    I'm confident Arsene can do it this year though


  • #4755
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    Soups123 wrote: »
    Fully agree but looking at on the field and trophies he's calling Liverpools time as flux but not hours. We are 100% at the cross road this season either we have a really good go or a change is needed

    I'm confident Arsene can do it this year though

    Is their any team more consistent that Arsenal in the last 20 years???


  • #4756
    Soups123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    So just go back to when Liverpiol won the UCL- seems ligit 11 years is a usual period of time for data measurement...

    So there flux started after the CL win?


  • #4757
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    So just go back to when Liverpiol won the UCL- seems ligit 11 years is a usual period of time for data measurement...

    Or 26 years ago when they last won the league :)


  • #4758
    Soups123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    Is their any team more consistent that Arsenal in the last 20 years???

    United?


  • #4759
    KaiserGunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭KaiserGunner


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    Here's a secret lads, City will buy, sorry... Win the league

    I'm not as pessimistic as you. Who are they going to buy in January that is going to hugely improve there already impressive squad? Ya can only have 11 players playing at one time. They have invested heavily in players such as De Bruyne, Sterling, Bony, otamendi etc. I don't see what marquee players they will buy in January to dramatically improve on them, who cost a bomb already.


  • #4760
    Bobby Baccala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,343 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    Is their any team more consistent that Arsenal in the last 20 years???

    Spurs have been consistently shít if that counts


  • #4761
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    Soups123 wrote: »
    United?

    Consistent no, successful yes


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  • #4762
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Soups123 wrote: »
    Fully agree but looking at on the field and trophies he's calling Liverpools time as flux but not ours. We are 100% at the cross road this season either we have a really good go or a change is needed

    I'm confident Arsene can do it this year though

    I wouldn't call myself confident but I am very very very hopeful.


  • #4763
    Soups123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    Constantl, no, successfull yes

    I'm not sure what your point is here without a doubt the most consistent and successful team the last 20 years


  • #4764
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    P4DDY2K11 wrote: »
    Spurs have been consistently shít if that counts

    They have been varying degrees of shyte tbf

    Raging from loose scour to difficult constipation


  • #4765
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    Soups123 wrote: »
    I'm not sure what your point is here without a doubt the most consistent and successful team the last 20 years

    Their league position has varied far wider than ours- that's less consistent

    They're blown hot and cold in the UCL - that's less consistent


  • #4766
    Soups123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    Their league position has varied far wider than ours- that's less consistent

    They're blown hot and cold in the UCL - that's less consistent

    They won 9 or 10 league trophies in that time you think our run of top 4s beat that? Seriously like ??


  • #4767
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    Soups123 wrote: »
    They won 9 or 10 league trophies in that time you think our run of top 4s beat that? Seriously like ??

    I was talking about consistency not success 🙄🙄🙄


  • #4768
    Soups123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    I was talking about consistency not success 🙄🙄🙄

    That makes no sense they have won it 10 times or so in 20 years nobody has been more consistent than that


  • #4769
    Gaygooner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Gaygooner


    Soups123 wrote: »
    That makes no sense they have won it 10 times or so in 20 years nobody has been more consistent than that

    Are you confusing consistent with successful???


    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/consistent


  • #4770
    KaiserGunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭KaiserGunner


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    Are you confusing consistent with successful???

    You can't get much more consistent than 10 or so titles in 20 years. It's called being consistently successful.


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  • #4771
    Soups123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Gaygooner wrote: »
    Are you confusing consistent with successful???

    ask any fan who the most consistent team of the last 20 years in the PL is and they'll answer Manchester United.


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