Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

gandalf · 14-12-2015 11:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I wouldn't trust us to even get a result let alone batter them. They were as open as the sea in the Community Shield. We should have tonked them

FFS you are a glass half full man aren't you !!!

MonsterCookie · 15-12-2015 12:28AM

Chelsea providing us with a very interesting side show this season and as enjoyable as it is to look on at their season going from bad to worse, we've got Man city next weekend!

I think we should win it. OG to continue his form and bag a brace!

Is AS back?

ronjo · 15-12-2015 08:45AM

So on to Man City on Monday.
Same team as Sunday? If Sanchez is fit does he come in or start on the bench?

Oops I should have read MonsterCookies message above first.
Sanchez is supposed to be in training this week......... I think he will put him straight in but I dont know who will be dropped?
Possibly Theo as Campbell offers more defensively but I hope its the other way around.

wandatowell · 15-12-2015 09:03AM

Deleted User wrote: »

tonked

Word of the Week.

farna_boy · 15-12-2015 09:03AM

ronjo wrote: »

So on to Man City on Monday.
Same team as Sunday? If Sanchez is fit does he come in or start on the bench?

Oops I should have read MonsterCookies message above first.
Sanchez is supposed to be in training this week......... I think he will put him straight in but I dont know who will be dropped?
Possibly Theo as Campbell offers more defensively but I hope its the other way around.

If Sanchez was available, I would play him and Campbell. The work rate of the two of them and Ramsey as well would be great to see.

If Theo was fitter I would consider starting him against the City defence, but I don't think he is quite back to full strength/form yet.

wandatowell · 15-12-2015 09:06AM

MonsterCookie wrote: »

Chelsea providing us with a very interesting side show this season and as enjoyable as it is to look on at their season going from bad to worse

I'm loving every second of it.

The hilarity when the camera cuts to Jose and he looks completely clueless as to what's going wrong.

His betrayal comment last night was weird too. He's feeling the pressure big time.

wandatowell · 15-12-2015 09:09AM

farna_boy wrote: »

If Theo was fitter I would consider starting him against the City defence, but I don't think he is quite back to full strength/form yet.

Dropping Giroud when he's in form would be madness but Mangala has the look of a player that Theo would rip apart especially if brought on later in the game.

Delighted to hear the talk of Alexis back in training. Just another option to have. Even with 20 minutes left to bring him on will terrify any defense.

DarraghF197 · 15-12-2015 09:19AM

I find it so ironic how people's opinions of Giroud have changed so dramatically over the last few weeks. On the Arsenal Facebook page, lots of the comments were focussed on how Giroud should be out of this team immediately and the likes. Now everyone thinks he's the third coming of Christ! I'm glad a handful of us in here never doubted the talent of Giroud and he's finally getting the goals to back that up.

15-12-2015 09:33AM

DarraghF197 wrote: »

I find it so ironic how people's opinions of Giroud have changed so dramatically over the last few weeks. On the Arsenal Facebook page, lots of the comments were focussed on how Giroud should be out of this team immediately and the likes. Now everyone thinks he's the third coming of Christ! I'm glad a handful of us in here never doubted the talent of Giroud and he's finally getting the goals to back that up.

Meh, praising a player doesn't always equate to fawning. He's playing well lately and getting goals but Walcott has to play somewhere against City.

15-12-2015 09:33AM

DarraghF197 wrote: »

I find it so ironic how people's opinions of Giroud have changed so dramatically over the last few weeks. On the Arsenal Facebook page, lots of the comments were focussed on how Giroud should be out of this team immediately and the likes. Now everyone thinks he's the third coming of Christ! I'm glad a handful of us in here never doubted the talent of Giroud and he's finally getting the goals to back that up.

I like Giroud and think he gets a lot of unwarranted abuse. His goal tallys aren't always consistent and he makes a mess of some good chances that are clickbait for the vine sites. If you watch him however he brings the players around him into the game brilliantly. His hold up play and layoffs are very good and teams need someone like that unless they are Barcelona. Bayern have Lewandowski doing it and Real have Benzema doing it. I wouldn't be saying Giroud is at either of their levels but with the players Arsenal have around him being shorter, quicker, more skillful players there is a lot lost without having someone like Giroud.

farna_boy · 15-12-2015 09:34AM

wandatowell wrote: »

Dropping Giroud when he's in form would be madness but Mangala has the look of a player that Theo would rip apart especially if brought on later in the game.

Delighted to hear the talk of Alexis back in training. Just another option to have. Even with 20 minutes left to bring him on will terrify any defense.

In general I wouldn't be in favour of dropping Giroud at all, but if we had say Walcott, Sanchez and Campbell all fit, I would start with them and then bring on Giroud in the second half to get a goal. Giroud has been good off the bench so far this season and if the City defence were worn out after the first half, it could only make things a bit easier for him.

As it stands though, I have no problem with Giroud starting, especially with the form he is in at the moment.

emergingstar · 15-12-2015 10:14AM

DarraghF197 wrote: »

I find it so ironic how people's opinions of Giroud have changed so dramatically over the last few weeks. On the Arsenal Facebook page, lots of the comments were focussed on how Giroud should be out of this team immediately and the likes. Now everyone thinks he's the third coming of Christ! I'm glad a handful of us in here never doubted the talent of Giroud and he's finally getting the goals to back that up.

I would still drop him once Everyone is fit and out wally back up top

gandalf · 15-12-2015 10:24AM

Giroud is a very good striker. He is just a bit too slow but his hold up and connecting play can be world class. I am happy that we have a few options with different skill sets up front.

We have a plan A and a plan B whereas a year ago it seemed that we didn't have a plan at all. Who we play from the outset should be decided by how the opposition is set up and what the initial game plan is. If it doesn't work then we can change the attack to something different.

I still believe that we need to strengthen the front line but the DM position is a priority to fill now.

(Of course I fully expect that at the end of the Jan window we'll have the usual the right player wasn't available and the price wasn't right excuses from Arsene! But I do live in hope that I am wrong!)

15-12-2015 10:39AM

gandalf wrote: »

Giroud is a very good striker. He is just a bit too slow but his hold up and connecting play can be world class. I am happy that we have a few options with different skill sets up front.

We have a plan A and a plan B whereas a year ago it seemed that we didn't have a plan at all. Who we play from the outset should be decided by how the opposition is set up and what the initial game plan is. If it doesn't work then we can change the attack to something different.

I still believe that we need to strengthen the front line but the DM position is a priority to fill now.

(Of course I fully expect that at the end of the Jan window we'll have the usual the right player wasn't available and the price wasn't right excuses from Arsene! But I do live in hope that I am wrong!)

What do you reckon would be the right style of player to fill the DM position for Arsenal? Would it be a deep playmaker type like Alonso or Carrick or a more dynamic style of player?

I think someone who wasn't at a great level with regards passing would really hold Arsenal back.

Hyzepher · 15-12-2015 11:48AM

We need someone with Mert's composure and Coq's workrate

ronjo · 15-12-2015 11:57AM

Hyzepher wrote: »

We need someone with Mert's composure and Coq's workrate

You want a Coqsacher?

Skylinehead · 15-12-2015 12:16PM

emergingstar wrote: »

I would be sticking GAB in and have him well settled there before Barca come to town

Mertesacker is a better defender than Gabriel, there's no contest there for me yet. If we play a high line, yeah I'd be worried about him but that's not going to happen with Barcelona coming to town. We'll play deep and try to hit them on the counter like we did against Bayern.

wawaman · 15-12-2015 12:40PM

ronjo wrote: »

You want a Coqsacher?

wonder would a RAMCOQ work?

ronjo · 15-12-2015 01:06PM

wawaman wrote: »

wonder would a RAMCOQ work?

Better ask Hyzepher

Oranage2 · 15-12-2015 01:29PM

ronjo wrote: »

You want a Coqsacher?

My thank button is broken on my phone for some reason but this comment made me laugh out loud.

DeclanRe · 15-12-2015 01:55PM

looks like Wellbeck has hit a setback in his comeback. That Aleksandr Kokorin rumour could be true

emmetlego · 15-12-2015 01:58PM

Jeysus, poor Danny has really be Arsenaled. Any story as to what's wrong with him?

DeclanRe · 15-12-2015 02:02PM

emmetlego wrote: »

Jeysus, poor Danny has really be Arsenaled. Any story as to what's wrong with him?

Yea i feel really bad for him!
Not sure, just says he has suffered a setback and wont return until sometime in February. Arseblog reporting it too, so it seems pretty legit. He'll find it hard to make the Euros now

extra gravy · 15-12-2015 02:04PM

That sucks. He had been doing great for England too no more than Jack.

tayto lover · 15-12-2015 02:16PM

emmetlego wrote: »

Jeysus, poor Danny has really be Arsenaled. Any story as to what's wrong with him?

Tripped over Shad's dead body I hear.

15-12-2015 02:34PM

If there is a silver lining to the Welbeck story, it means that Wenger absolutely has to buy an attacking player in January. This will mean we will have a pretty decent array of attackers available in the tail end of the season.

This is assuming we don't pick up a load more injuries, of course :P

Nemeses2050 · 15-12-2015 02:41PM

"One possibility is that I did an amazing job last season and brought the players to a level that is not their level and now they can't maintain it," - What a classy manager...And then he asks why he doesn't get the respect Wenger gets....

gandalf · 15-12-2015 02:50PM

emmetlego wrote: »

Jeysus, poor Danny has really be Arsenaled. Any story as to what's wrong with him?

He is suffering from an extreme case of the Diabys!!

15-12-2015 02:58PM

Must go back and dig out the posts around the time we signed Welbeck

Never did get sorted with the bet I made on here either.

bad2dabone · 15-12-2015 03:15PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Must go back and dig out the posts around the time we signed Welbeck Never did get sorted with the bet I made on here either.

Do that buddy, you were saying balotelli would have been a better signing!

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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