Illegal to slap a child

BattleCorp · 11-12-2015 01:40PM #1

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/ban-on-smacking-children-came-into-force-at-midnight-1.2461969

What a dumbass law.

It doesn't do any harm to give a child a little smack if they are bold. I'm not talking about caving in their jaw with a box, but that defense of reasonable chastisement was a good enough law.

Why change it?

Stupid in my opinion.

Lights On · 11-12-2015 01:40PM

Doesn't say anything about giving them roundhouse kicks though

AnonoBoy · 11-12-2015 01:45PM

I used to love slapping reasonably chastising people's kids.

What am I supposed to do for fun now?

King George VI · 11-12-2015 01:46PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I used to love slapping reasonably chastising people's kids.

What am I supposed to do for fun now?

Crack

Hammer89 · 11-12-2015 01:46PM

I wouldn't smack my child, if and when I have one, but that's just a preference. My da smacked me on the arse when I was little over what was proven to be a false allegation and to this day I'm a little frightened of him. I'd be broken up forever if anyone I loved - children or otherwise - were afraid of me.

AnonoBoy · 11-12-2015 01:47PM

Johnny Carson wrote: »

Crack

Way ahead of you there.

DivingDuck · 11-12-2015 01:48PM

Parents slapping their offspring is the child-sized version of a court handing down a punishment of fifty lashes for an adult, so this is a very positive change by my account.

lukesmom · 11-12-2015 01:48PM

I thinks it's ridiculous. I have smacked my 3 year old boys bum on a few occasions. He is a pup at times.

Nodin · 11-12-2015 01:49PM

Lights On wrote: »

Doesn't say anything about giving them roundhouse kicks though

Or clatters. Clatters are not mentioned.

AnonoBoy · 11-12-2015 01:52PM

Nodin wrote: »

Or clatters. Clatters are not mentioned.

Ah clatters..... Who remembers Clatters? Aye - they were something weren't they? Get a clatter on a Saturday and the off to the chippie for fish and chips - with loadsa vinegar - they don't do vinegar like they used to. Who remembers the old vinegar they used to have before the modern muck came in. Muck? Who remembers muck - proper muck mind - not this modern muck they have these days.

The_Valeyard · 11-12-2015 01:53PM

Nodin wrote: »

Or clatters. Clatters are not mentioned.

Electric cattle prod?

ElChe32 · 11-12-2015 01:53PM

I can still push them down a flight of stairs though right?

Peregrine · 11-12-2015 01:53PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

It doesn't do any harm to give a child a little smack if they are bold. I'm not talking about caving in their jaw with a box, but that defense of reasonable chastisement was a good enough law.

It wouldn't do any harm to give you a little smack if you are bold so why aren't people doing it? You'd hit back.

The child, of course, is defenceless and is fair game for little smacks according to you.

SEPT 23 1989 · 11-12-2015 01:56PM

Chinese burns are still on the menu though?

SEPT 23 1989 · 11-12-2015 01:56PM

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Nodin · 11-12-2015 02:00PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Electric cattle prod?

Techno hipster band from Portadown?

Penny Tration · 11-12-2015 02:04PM

Peregrine wrote: »

It wouldn't do any harm to give you a little smack if you are bold so why aren't people doing it? You'd hit back.

The child, of course, is defenceless and is fair game for little smacks according to you.

This.

Why hit a child and not an adult? Because adults can fight back.

It's not about teaching a kid manners, because plenty of adults have no manners and you wouldn't dare slap them to teach them some because they'd punch you right back.

If you have to resort to hitting a kid, your temper has gotten the better of you. All it teaches a child is that if mammy or daddy is angry, they'll hurt me.

draiochtanois · 11-12-2015 02:07PM

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DivingDuck · 11-12-2015 02:10PM

Peregrine wrote: »

It wouldn't do any harm to give you a little smack if you are bold so why aren't people doing it? You'd hit back.

The child, of course, is defenceless and is fair game for little smacks according to you.

To be fair, it's more than fear of retaliation for a lot of people, it's that they feel they "own" their child in a way they don't an adult stranger.

In their view, that makes it better. In my view, it makes absolutely no difference.

Skylinehead · 11-12-2015 02:12PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/ban-on-smacking-children-came-into-force-at-midnight-1.2461969

What a dumbass law.

It doesn't do any harm to give a child a little smack if they are bold. I'm not talking about caving in their jaw with a box, but that defense of reasonable chastisement was a good enough law.

Why change it?

Stupid in my opinion.

If you have to resort to violence against someone smaller than you who can't fight back, you're a bad parent.

Kimbot · 11-12-2015 02:14PM

Wooden Spoon and belts and mentioned so its all good :P

eamonnq · 11-12-2015 02:15PM

If they still misbehave after you smack them, do you smack them harder.............and on and on ?

Subcomandante Marcos · 11-12-2015 02:18PM

Parents who resort to smacking their kids have basically admitted they aren't able to control a toddler through communication and logic and have to resort to violence or the threat thereof.

Magico Gonzalez · 11-12-2015 02:19PM

I can still hear my ma telling me she would "warm the back of my legs" i was wasn't careful.

The Backwards Man · 11-12-2015 02:20PM

Threaten the wee bastards with a day footing turf, that'll make them behave themselves

Saadyst · 11-12-2015 02:24PM

My mother used to beat the everliving shít out of me, as well as my father the odd time, and even my uncle gave me a few smacks when he lived with us for a while.

I don't think I owe anything positive about the way I am now, to those beatings/smacks. I am the way I am now, thanks to me, not thanks to those events.

Hermy · 11-12-2015 02:35PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

It doesn't do any harm to give a child a little smack if they are bold.

How do you know?

valoren · 11-12-2015 02:42PM

OK Little Johnny, I see that you have smeared your faeces all over the bathroom wall again.
Let's meet for a coffee and discuss the inappropriateness of what you have done.

:pac:

There are alternatives to smacking. If the child likes to play games on your phone for example, then them smearing ****e all over the jacks should result in no phone for a week. The trick is to see the punishment out.

Nodin · 11-12-2015 02:52PM

valoren wrote: »

OK Little Johnny, I see that you have smeared your faeces all over the bathroom wall again.
Let's meet for a coffee and discuss the inappropriateness of what you have done.

:pac:

There are alternatives to smacking. If the child likes to play games on your phone for example, then them smearing ****e all over the jacks should result in no phone for a week. The trick is to see the punishment out.

I see parenthood has been difficult for ye.

Lux23 · 11-12-2015 02:56PM

A parent won't be prosecuted for giving their child a slap, people need to stop being so hysterical about this. But what will happen is that parents who beat/harm their child won't be able to use the defence of reasonable chastisement any more. Parents are getting away with GBH because its hard to prosecute with that defence in place.

BattleCorp · 11-12-2015 03:00PM

Lux23 wrote: »

A parent won't be prosecuted for giving their child a slap, people need to stop being so hysterical about this. But what will happen is that parents who beat/harm their child won't be able to use the defence of reasonable chastisement any more. Parents are getting away with GBH because its hard to prosecute with that defence in place.

Why won't a parent be prosecuted for giving their child a slap?

The law says you can't hit a child at all. It doesn't say how hard you can hit a child.

There will be stupid prosecutions.

Illegal to slap a child

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