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Labour Saving and General Guntering

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭eddiek


    delaney001 wrote: »
    2 things. I have that welder shield and it's a fine job. That's a great price for one.
    I also have that paraweld welder and I'm pretty sure it was never €330. Think I paid €270 inc vat.

    which shield? the €29 or €69 ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Could change the 13amp to the 16amp blue round plug?

    What amp do you normally run it on

    Yeah sorry that's what I meant really!! Don't think there was even a plug on ours now that I think of it, they leave it up to you which you put on it. We've a 13amp on it just so it can run on end of extension reel and that.
    For the most part it sits just over 100amps(box and lighter flat) crank it up then 120ish for 10-12mm but can be up on 140 a bit to, maxed it the other day to burn the pin out of a lock(grinder was locked in :D ) you have to be careful enough up on 140, keep it burning to long and the fuse will pop, you'd notice the heat in the plug at 120 after a bit even...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Zr105 wrote: »
    Yeah sorry that's what I meant really!! Don't think there was even a plug on ours now that I think of it, they leave it up to you which you put on it. We've a 13amp on it just so it can run on end of extension reel and that.
    For the most part it sits just over 100amps(box and lighter flat) crank it up then 120ish for 10-12mm but can be up on 140 a bit to, maxed it the other day to burn the pin out of a lock(grinder was locked in :D ) you have to be careful enough up on 140, keep it burning to long and the fuse will pop, you'd notice the heat in the plug at 120 after a bit even...

    So not really for long days welding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Zr105 wrote: »
    We've a 13amp on it just so it can run on end of extension reel and that. ..


    You can say bye bye to that extension reel. Outside sheath might look ok but you've more than likely burn out the wires inside. And won't be able to know exactly where.

    Can't remember the exact gauge but l got a length of cable about thickness of finger for welder. Ordinary reels not heavy enough gauge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Anyone ever use solar lights around yards and are they any good? It's either that or a full day for me running wires and connecting to another line.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭st1979


    Reggie. wrote:
    So not really for long days welding


    You can weld all day with any decent inverter if you use the correct plug and no extension lead. But for doing a small job its very handy to be able to weld a decent weld on an extension lead. Where an old oil cooled would be very heavy to move and bugger your extension lead very quickly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Reggie. wrote: »
    So not really for long days welding

    Nah weld away with the welder all day long!! Haven't used the air cooled much at all since the inverter appeared nd hate using it when I do have to.. Using mig most of the time now tho!
    Muckit wrote: »
    You can say bye bye to that extension reel. Outside sheath might look ok but you've more than likely burn out the wires inside. And won't be able to know exactly where.

    Can't remember the exact gauge but l got a length of cable about thickness of finger for welder. Ordinary reels not heavy enough gauge.

    Ordinary reel is grand for an inverter once fully wound out, not for non stop welding now but for bits and pieces here and there it's grand. A 16amp rated reel would be better admittedly..

    I wouldn't dream of putting an ordinary welder on an extension but the inverters really are light on power for there output


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Looking to tap into the considerable knowledge on here. Am not much of a welder but the old inverter welder calved last month and looking for a bit of advice on buying a new one? Only do bits and pieces around the yard the odd gate and the like just wondering would I get away with 130amp or would I need something stronger? Lad close to us (toolstore.ie) has deals on a 130 and 170 amp at the min.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Looking to tap into the considerable knowledge on here. Am not much of a welder but the old inverter welder calved last month and looking for a bit of advice on buying a new one? Only do bits and pieces around the yard the odd gate and the like just wondering would I get away with 130amp or would I need something stronger? Lad close to us (toolstore.ie) has deals on a 130 and 170 amp at the min.

    You might get away with 160amp but I'd go 200amp to be safe. No harm going the extra bit. Nice to have the power in reserve


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭raypallas


    Looking to tap into the considerable knowledge on here. Am not much of a welder but the old inverter welder calved last month and looking for a bit of advice on buying a new one? Only do bits and pieces around the yard the odd gate and the like just wondering would I get away with 130amp or would I need something stronger? Lad close to us (toolstore.ie) has deals on a 130 and 170 amp at the min.

    Reggie. wrote:
    You might get away with 160amp but I'd go 200amp to be safe. No harm going the extra bit. Nice to have the power in reserve


    Is there much of a difference in the price? You might be kicking yourself afterwards, the 170 would be a heavier duty version so you should get a longer lifespan out of it.

    +1 on that better to be looking at it than for it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Looking to tap into the considerable knowledge on here. Am not much of a welder but the old inverter welder calved last month and looking for a bit of advice on buying a new one? Only do bits and pieces around the yard the odd gate and the like just wondering would I get away with 130amp or would I need something stronger? Lad close to us (toolstore.ie) has deals on a 130 and 170 amp at the min.

    Go for the bigger if you can. It's the duty cycle that's important. On a 130amp welder the duty cycle(ie 60% means you can weld for 6mins out of 10)up at the power you'll be welding most will be small meaning you can only weld for very short bursts whereas on the bigger welder it'll have a higher duty cycle at the power you'll be using most


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    raypallas wrote:
    Is there much of a difference in the price? You might be kicking yourself afterwards, the 170 would be a heavier duty version so you should get a longer lifespan out of it.


    The 130 amp is €239 and the 170 amp is €399 both come with a automatic mask and a few boxes of rods!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    The 130 amp is €239 and the 170 amp is €399 both come with a automatic mask and a few boxes of rods!

    What about this
    http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/category&path=730#container


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    I got this one earlier on in the year and find it good for the few small bits I have done with it. Haven't blown a fuse on a 13 amp plug with it yet but rarely have it above 120 amps. http://www.caulfieldindustrial.com/esab-buddy-arc-180-amp-inverter-stick--tig-welder/p-e13489pd.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Blue Holland


    Been looking into inverter welder recently, seems to be endless Brands on the market, anyone know of any to avoid.
    Was considering a Sip.
    Notice the Duty cycle on Stanley ones on Toolstore is bit low at 20% at 125amps on the 140 and 20% at 160 amps on 170.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    I got this one earlier on in the year and find it good for the few small bits I have done with it. Haven't blown a fuse on a 13 amp plug with it yet but rarely have it above 120 amps.

    Looks like a good one and Caulfields have a place in athlone too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    First venture into a bit of guttering
    60x40 lean to over an outdoor tank and luy back area which I was fed up paying to spread watery slurry out of
    Made up from mainly stuff that was going to or was in scrap yard
    It's not the prettiest but it does the job the finest put weanlings in it yesterday eve and they were quite content this morning lying back on their straw bed
    Got young lad to weld up pillars and cleats and done the rest Meself not bad considering the biggest project before this was a hen house for 6 hensðŸ˜

    Pics


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Can you post those pics again Ellewood, tried merging them and I effed up :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    ellewood wrote: »
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    ellewood wrote: »
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    ellewood wrote: »
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    Ahh I give up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    ellewood wrote: »
    Ahh I give up

    Something is weird, it lets me see the attachment but not open it :confused: I'll delete cookies and try again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Kovu wrote: »
    Something is weird, it lets me see the attachment but not open it :confused: I'll delete cookies and try again.

    Gremlins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    Been looking into inverter welder recently, seems to be endless Brands on the market, anyone know of any to avoid.
    Was considering a Sip.
    Notice the Duty cycle on Stanley ones on Toolstore is bit low at 20% at 125amps on the 140 and 20% at 160 amps on 170.

    had a blue inverter cant remember make, it was 200 and kept cutting out, drove me nucking futs , got another in lieu a 160 MMA,supplier reconed that 200 was more fragile. advised me to turn on welder for 3 or 4 mins prior to welding.
    had CEA 250 air cooled prior to that for about 20 yrs, took some abuse, forgot it outside several times , father hosed it with yard power washer one day when i was making tipping trailer. oven baked unit and it worked better than ever, something makes me feel it was better for heavy welding but not as handy , used it several times out in field attached to tractor generator doing mobile repairs for neighbours .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Mol88


    Ewm top of the range if you have the money.160 is loads unless burning 4 mm rods.some chinese brands claim amps that they don't have.biggest thing is parts alot of brands no back up.poor experience with esab buddy and paraweld.sip seem ok currently have a magmaweld.if getting one get a generator friendly.small sockets for earth and holder seem to burn out quicker.atomatic shild a gimic.if you only use a few times a year buy a old oil cooled nothing beats them.jassic have a high frequency stick option on some plants gives some weld little spatter and a nice big price.if your not experienced get a anti stick start.make sure shade 10 at lrasyw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Mol88


    At lrast for welding glass also 16 amp plug is ideal.shop around their is a budget for everyone now days.but welding isnt cheap would be as easy to get a lad in.guarantee you wont even have minium wage out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Mol88 wrote:
    At lrast for welding glass also 16 amp plug is ideal.shop around their is a budget for everyone now days.but welding isnt cheap would be as easy to get a lad in.guarantee you wont even have minium wage out of it.


    Yeah any big job gets brought up to the forge. Ours would only be for tipping around fixing the odd gate and that. We had a yellow one before this can remember the make the stickers have gone off it now at this stage, the biggest problem was parts when it did go wrong. Ours packed in in February and haven't been able to get it fixed anywhere so have just given up and I'm going to get a new one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    Yeah any big job gets brought up to the forge. Ours would only be for tipping around fixing the odd gate and that. We had a yellow one before this can remember the make the stickers have gone off it now at this stage, the biggest problem was parts when it did go wrong. Ours packed in in February and haven't been able to get it fixed anywhere so have just given up and I'm going to get a new one!
    at cost of labour, and parts, id say get new one,
    my inverter is yellow, MMA , provincial welding supplies, got a good reputation round here anyways.
    cea aircooled is yellow as well , lead from unit to rear of cable connectors is problem with them, or switch , easily repaired


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭SCOL


    I started to make a stove for my shead out of the Gas cylinder.

    I'm going to have it on it side and feed the wood from the end as I can
    get longer lenghts of wood so fire will last longer. I need to "Locate" a pipe
    for the chimney and weld up a 90 degrees bend also going to use the top of the cylinder as legs.


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