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  • #2372
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    jack o shea wrote: »
    lads just back to the grants again, could someone put in a sraper now and claim the grant in 6 months time or whenever the nxt timeframe is if the reciepts were backdated or is there any way around it?
    No.

    If you get approved for a grant, you can only start to install then. They spotcheck some applicants to make sure they aren't applying for work already done. Also, your supplier might have trouble supplying invoices next year for work done this year, assuming that you would be approved in the next tranch of applicants. Your application might go to 2 years from now before approval.

    It's a very dangerous road to travel.


  • #2373
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    2nd abortion this morning. Alongside a very sick cow from the other day, enough to set alarm bells ringing, Brought the fetuses to ucd, and vaccinating all the cows for salmonella tonight.


  • #2374
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Timmaay wrote: »
    2nd abortion this morning. Alongside a very sick cow from the other day, enough to set alarm bells ringing, Brought the fetuses to ucd, and vaccinating all the cows for salmonella tonight.

    feck . what else do you vaccinate for. Have to do second salmonella shot here next week


  • #2375
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    had a cow served yesterday morning still standing this morning. Would you serve her again?


  • #2376
    mahoney_j
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    had a cow served yesterday morning still standing this morning. Would you serve her again?

    Yes


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  • #2377
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Timmaay wrote: »
    2nd abortion this morning. Alongside a very sick cow from the other day, enough to set alarm bells ringing, Brought the fetuses to ucd, and vaccinating all the cows for salmonella tonight.

    Fook ,isolate and blood test both cows asap .sounds like salmonella ,if u vaccinate today it takes a few weeks for it to work .could also be neospora ,


  • #2378
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Heifers are home. Well some of them are.
    By far my favourite batch we've had here


  • #2379
    whelan2
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Heifers are home. Well some of them are.
    By far my favourite batch we've had here
    Had incalf heifers in cubicle shed on outfarm, brought them home yesterday, went over today to do the scrapers in with them and only copped on when i was at the shed that I had brought them home yesterday:cool:


  • #2380
    Greengrass1
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    I have a bit of problem lads.
    It's a good one to have though.
    I gave 12 autumn born heifers born last sept/Oct.
    I wasn't going to breed these until May because I don't want any more autumn calvers but need more spring calvers.
    But there massive. Easily 350 kgs. One girl not far off 400. And I wouldn't class out herd as big. Av cow 550 kgs.
    Secondly I've no where to put my spring born heifers - 25 of them.
    Brought them to out farm today thinking there would be loads of room in shed there but it will be way too cramped with 37 heifers in one side so I let them into a paddock for tonight till we think of something.

    Any ideas?
    We have a big 35ft by 60ft hay shed here but it's full up with straw


  • #2381
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    I have a bit of problem lads.
    It's a good one to have though.
    I gave 12 autumn born heifers born last sept/Oct.
    I wasn't going to breed these until May because I don't want any more autumn calvers but need more spring calvers.
    But there massive. Easily 350 kgs. One girl not far off 400. And I wouldn't class out herd as big. Av cow 550 kgs.
    Secondly I've no where to put my spring born heifers - 25 of them.
    Brought them to out farm today thinking there would be loads of room in shed there but it will be way too cramped with 37 heifers in one side so I let them into a paddock for tonight till we think of something.

    Any ideas?
    We have a big 35ft by 60ft hay shed here but it's full up with straw
    I only wanted to put 10 heifers to bull last week, neighbour was helping us sort them and he picked 20 that he said were fit, I got him down to 16:rolleyes: my thinking is hopefully they wont all go in calf in the 6 weeks I am allowing


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  • #2382
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    I have a bit of problem lads.
    It's a good one to have though.
    I gave 12 autumn born heifers born last sept/Oct.
    I wasn't going to breed these until May because I don't want any more autumn calvers but need more spring calvers.
    But there massive. Easily 350 kgs. One girl not far off 400. And I wouldn't class out herd as big. Av cow 550 kgs.
    Secondly I've no where to put my spring born heifers - 25 of them.
    Brought them to out farm today thinking there would be loads of room in shed there but it will be way too cramped with 37 heifers in one side so I let them into a paddock for tonight till we think of something.

    Any ideas?
    We have a big 35ft by 60ft hay shed here but it's full up with straw

    Can you move some of the straw home to replace what's been used already and fire them in there?


  • #2383
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    Can you move some of the straw home to replace what's been used already and fire them in there?

    Well that straw shed in my post is at home here.
    But there is a straw shed there.
    It's about 25ff x 45ft. Roughly 150 bales in that and we'll over 400 in one at home.
    I possibly should have sown kale in out farm and reseeded some of it if I was thinking right


  • #2384
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Well that straw shed in my post is at home here.
    But there is a straw shed there.
    It's about 25ff x 45ft. Roughly 150 bales in that and we'll over 400 in one at home.
    I possibly should have sown kale in out farm and reseeded some of it if I was thinking right

    Ah, got you now.

    I thought there might be enough room if bales were shifted.


  • #2385
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    I have a bit of problem lads.
    It's a good one to have though.
    I gave 12 autumn born heifers born last sept/Oct.
    I wasn't going to breed these until May because I don't want any more autumn calvers but need more spring calvers.
    But there massive. Easily 350 kgs. One girl not far off 400. And I wouldn't class out herd as big. Av cow 550 kgs.
    Secondly I've no where to put my spring born heifers - 25 of them.
    Brought them to out farm today thinking there would be loads of room in shed there but it will be way too cramped with 37 heifers in one side so I let them into a paddock for tonight till we think of something.

    Any ideas?
    We have a big 35ft by 60ft hay shed here but it's full up with straw

    Sell them and buy back calved or incalf heifers next spring ???.if that weight now they'll be fat as fools come next May


  • #2386
    Greengrass1
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    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Sell them and buy back calved or incalf heifers next spring ???.if that weight now they'll be fat as fools come next May

    Haven't bought stock here in 10 yrs mj. Would like to keep it that way.


  • #2387
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Sell them and buy back calved or incalf heifers next spring ???.if that weight now they'll be fat as fools come next May
    No, no, no ,no , you never know what you are buying in


  • #2388
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Haven't bought stock here in 10 yrs mj. Would like to keep it that way.

    Then just sell ,if you've no place fo put them your slim on options .have you plans for next winter as I know ur moving up in nos ??,


  • #2389
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Well that straw shed in my post is at home here.
    But there is a straw shed there.
    It's about 25ff x 45ft. Roughly 150 bales in that and we'll over 400 in one at home.
    I possibly should have sown kale in out farm and reseeded some of it if I was thinking right
    not being smart but part of expansion plans are housing, bit late being stuck today for housing.


  • #2390
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    whelan2 wrote: »
    not being smart but part of expansion plans are housing, bit late being stuck today for housing.

    Need the stock first. Housing will look after itself once the stock is there and earning.


  • #2391
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    freedominacup wrote: »
    Need the stock first. Housing will look after itself once the stock is there and earning.
    we sit down each year and work out were everything goes, no use realising on day of housing you dont have enough room. ye all must have fantastic county council inspectors that let ye wait until last minute to worry about housing


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  • #2392
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭alps


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    I have a bit of problem lads.
    It's a good one to have though.
    I gave 12 autumn born heifers born last sept/Oct.
    I wasn't going to breed these until May because I don't want any more autumn calvers but need more spring calvers.
    But there massive. Easily 350 kgs. One girl not far off 400. And I wouldn't class out herd as big. Av cow 550 kgs.
    Secondly I've no where to put my spring born heifers - 25 of them.
    Brought them to out farm today thinking there would be loads of room in shed there but it will be way too cramped with 37 heifers in one side so I let them into a paddock for tonight till we think of something.

    Any ideas?
    We have a big 35ft by 60ft hay shed here but it's full up with straw

    Don't know how many cows you have, but would they be much of a load in the dry cow house. They don't need to be gaining weight over the winter and a couple of months with dry cows and out to grass 3 or 4 weeks before bulling. Reckon you'll hardly notice them in a house of 70 cows plus....unless you're overstocked there too..


  • #2393
    mahoney_j
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    we sit down each year and work out were everything goes, no use realising on day of housing you dont have enough room. ye all must have fantastic county council inspectors that let ye wait until last minute to worry about housing

    Fully agree ,no point having loads of stock and no where to put them,more stock = more housing = more slurry storage .plans need to be in place to cater for expansion .a co co or cross compliance inspection which will pick up these things can and will have a big effect .as Sr. Increases and u enter derogation to comply with nitrates ur only a phone call away from an inspection most years


  • #2394
    Timmaay
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    freedominacup wrote: »
    Need the stock first. Housing will look after itself once the stock is there and earning.

    On dry farms youngstock barely need any housing, my aim moving forward would be only to house them during exceptional bad weather, hopefully no more than say 10days over the winter. I'm looking at alternative uses for the weanling shed moving forward, will probably use it for dry cows instead. With block spring calving you got the calving pen free for other stock until Feb also.


  • #2395
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Timmaay wrote: »
    On dry farms youngstock barely need any housing, my aim moving forward would be only to house them during exceptional bad weather, hopefully no more than say 10days over the winter. I'm looking at alternative uses for the weanling shed moving forward, will probably use it for dry cows instead. With block spring calving you got the calving pen free for other stock until Feb also.
    why are there different rules for different counties? Have loads of sheds idle here at the minute that are used for calves etc


  • #2396
    Greengrass1
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    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Then just sell ,if you've no place fo put them your slim on options .have you plans for next winter as I know ur moving up in nos ??,

    Certainly do. 130 cubicles lagoon and 18 unit parlour in the pipeline


  • #2397
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Then just sell ,if you've no place fo put them your slim on options .have you plans for next winter as I know ur moving up in nos ??,

    Certainly do. 130 cubicles lagoon and 18 unit parlour in the pipeline.
    Thst will free up alot of shed space


  • #2398
    whelan2
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Certainly do. 130 cubicles lagoon and 18 unit parlour in the pipeline
    no use being in the pipeline if you need it now


  • #2399
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    not being smart but part of expansion plans are housing, bit late being stuck today for housing.

    I thought I would have the space .
    I've to get what we owe atm down before we take on more debt. Simple as.


  • #2400
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    no use being in the pipeline if you need it now

    Well it's better than the problem we had 3 yrs ago of not being able to keep up with bills.
    It's a one yr problem.
    We know what we can and can't afford and we need more cows before we can spend any more


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  • #2401
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    I thought I would have the space .
    I've to get what we owe atm down before we take on more debt. Simple as.

    Not having a go gg ,but over the last 2/3 years you've outlined how u plan to expand nos ,you've managed to get the stock but u seem goosed for shed/cubicle space ,slurry storage and a parlour .u now seem to be at a stage where u will need them all in the one go and sooner rather than later .dont know your situation re nitrates and how near dero u are but at high stock nos it's just a matter of time before your inspected .bps penalties and co co inspectors sniffing around every year ain't what u want .your young ambitious and have a good handle on your costs don't be afraid of debt and back yourself


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