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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • #2342
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    frazzledhome wrote:
    Great to see a young lad getting off his ass and going for it. No future in farming, his like is the future


    Guys like that are an absolute tonic.

    Never worries me too much when I read about average age of farmers getting older, a handful of guys with his enthusiasm would take over from a county full of them!


  • #2343
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    I got the Irish Dairy Farmer winter issue today.

    They have an interesting comparison of 5 different parlours and how they operate.

    Sounds like one fella thought he d get abit of cheap relief milking done , cup of tea and all.:-).dont ye know jack talks about milking cows not milking them


  • #2344
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    jack o shea wrote: »
    Got qouted 5500 plus vat for automatic scraper foe a single 3 bay shed, madness to get it?

    Probably, but from ur posts u come across as a young farmer(I could be wrong!), and I'm pretty sure auto scrapers are included in the new TAMS, so u could get a 60% or at the minimum 40% grant. Then it would be worth considering


  • #2345
    jack o shea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 607 ✭✭✭jack o shea


    Are they included Deepsouth? The hassle and paperwork is unreal tho with them grants, is 5500 plus vat a very expensive qoute for a small shed/number of cubicles? In fairness he did say another 1500 or so would pay for a 2nd scraper, (at the moment it would be only one shed i could convert)


  • #2346
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    jack o shea wrote: »
    Got qouted 5500 plus vat for automatic scraper foe a single 3 bay shed, madness to get it?
    I made one for a single house for less than a thousand, its rachet but the bar is driven off a chain scraper motor like the old finger bar mower iykwim


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  • #2347
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    jack o shea wrote:
    Are they included Deepsouth? The hassle and paperwork is unreal tho with them grants, is 5500 plus vat a very expensive qoute for a small shed/number of cubicles? In fairness he did say another 1500 or so would pay for a 2nd scraper, (at the moment it would be only one shed i could convert)

    If it's any help last time I bought track it was about 30eur a metre. I bought a second hand saddle for 500 odd as the one we had was shot. Motor was fine but we had to rebuild the control box.


  • #2348
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    keep going wrote: »
    I made one for a single house for less than a thousand, its rachet but the bar is driven off a chain scraper motor like the old finger bar mower iykwim

    Oh ffs!!


  • #2349
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    jack o shea wrote: »
    Are they included Deepsouth? The hassle and paperwork is unreal tho with them grants, is 5500 plus vat a very expensive qoute for a small shed/number of cubicles? In fairness he did say another 1500 or so would pay for a 2nd scraper, (at the moment it would be only one shed i could convert)

    Yes they are included, how much hassle could the paperwork be? U will hardly need planning permission.


  • #2350
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Have to connect two slurry channels .. actually a single slat at the end of a passage to an open slurry channel about 20 ft away.

    Ideally want to use a pipe rather than an actual channel to connect them as need to drive over it with heavy loads and want it in place quickly..

    Would a largish length of corripipe set so the slurry channel water half fills it, with six inches of concrete and steel over the top do the trick? Or am I asking for trouble?


  • #2351
    jack o shea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 607 ✭✭✭jack o shea


    is that why they are so expensive?the grant. could you put the scraper in soon and get the grant after or is it not that simple?


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  • #2352
    Brown Podzol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    kowtow wrote: »
    Have to connect two slurry channels .. actually a single slat at the end of a passage to an open slurry channel about 20 ft away.

    Ideally want to use a pipe rather than an actual channel to connect them as need to drive over it with heavy loads and want it in place quickly..

    Would a largish length of corripipe set so the slurry channel water half fills it, with six inches of concrete and steel over the top do the trick? Or am I asking for trouble?

    Using 18" concrete pipes here with a lip at the end to hold about 6" of water in them. Working well for years. I think it needs to be at least size as anything smaller would block.


  • #2353
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    jack o shea wrote: »
    is that why they are so expensive?the grant. could you put the scraper in soon and get the grant after or is it not that simple?

    Same price for yrs, expensive. Can't buy before grant is approved


  • #2354
    jack o shea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 607 ✭✭✭jack o shea


    when is the next grant applications? looks like il be sraping with the tractor for a while if i go ahead with it so.


  • #2355
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    kowtow wrote: »
    Guys like that are an absolute tonic.

    Never worries me too much when I read about average age of farmers getting older, a handful of guys with his enthusiasm would take over from a county full of them!

    Best of luck to the chap... His puss is in the papers a bit too much for my liking tho....


  • #2356
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/only-22-and-plans-to-be-milk-275-cows-in-co-galway/

    Great to see a young lad getting off his ass and going for it. No future in farming, his like is the future
    While I know Kevin but he has said before only for his uncle putting down the land his 10th loan application would have failed too.
    Great initiative there and alot of hard work after all is said and done and the best of luck to him


  • #2357
    Damo810
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Damo810


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/only-22-and-plans-to-be-milk-275-cows-in-co-galway/

    Great to see a young lad getting off his ass and going for it. No future in farming, his like is the future

    Great read, hadn't actually heard of him but he's only from out the road. Makes you think, especially since I'm coming from a similar position, looking to take on the uncles but it's a hell of a long way from being a viable dairy farm. Share-farming seems my best chance at getting into things tbh. He had a bit of a head start in being able to access the uncles place with a structure in place and a good size block, still though, fair play to him, all the best. Hopefully I'll be working down a similar path in a few years :)


  • #2358
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    I'm thinking we could get a drop of rain...


  • #2359
    Greengrass1
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    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    I got the Irish Dairy Farmer winter issue today.

    They have an interesting comparison of 5 different parlours and how they operate.
    They are all up on youtube too
    https://youtu.be/UD6-oHBCUT4

    https://youtu.be/9dLlSNibJ5k

    https://youtu.be/-48Ag18s_Qw

    https://youtu.be/MapL3haLrdc


  • #2360
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Dawggone wrote: »
    I'm thinking we could get a drop of rain...
    Jaysus, are the IFA making it rain in France as well?:pac:


  • #2361
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    Jaysus, are the IFA making it rain in France as well?:pac:


    IFA hoorz!!


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  • #2362
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Dawggone wrote: »
    I'm thinking we could get a drop of rain...

    I'm picturing you singing the opening theme song to The Lion King and holding a calf in the air... :p


  • #2363
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Feb due cow aborted this morning. Have the calf. Is it worth testing it, where/how much anyone?


  • #2364
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Feb due cow aborted this morning. Have the calf. Is it worth testing it, where/how much anyone?

    Take it to local dvo lab, your vet might have to book it in for ya I think not sure how much


  • #2365
    cute geoge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Feb due cow aborted this morning. Have the calf. Is it worth testing it, where/how much anyone?

    You will always have the odd slinger this time ofn year .I would not be too worried if it stopped at one or two. I would say hold fire and see how things pan out


  • #2366
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Feb due cow aborted this morning. Have the calf. Is it worth testing it, where/how much anyone?

    Bummer ,least u should do is isolate cow and blood her asap .are u vaccinating for salmonella ??


  • #2367
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Feb due cow aborted this morning. Have the calf. Is it worth testing it, where/how much anyone?

    Milk her and carry on. Don't waste your time sending to Lab. The only response will be inconclusive.

    Had one this am also, cow straight to parlour and carried on.


  • #2368
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Milk her and carry on. Don't waste your time sending to Lab. The only response will be inconclusive.

    Had one this am also, cow straight to parlour and carried on.

    Dried her off 2wks ago anyways, she was 3 spinner, very average milker, and scc up and down, going into the fattening pen and will be gone early Jan.


  • #2369
    blackdog1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Milk her and carry on. Don't waste your time sending to Lab. The only response will be inconclusive.

    Had one this am also, cow straight to parlour and carried on.

    I would blood her for salmonella. I wouldn't want a positive salmonella cow going into the tank I drink the milk out of.


  • #2370
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,751 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    are you not supposed to blood any cow that aborts for brucellosis or is that gone now


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  • #2371
    jack o shea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 607 ✭✭✭jack o shea


    lads just back to the grants again, could someone put in a sraper now and claim the grant in 6 months time or whenever the nxt timeframe is if the reciepts were backdated or is there any way around it?


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