Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

omega man · 23-11-2015 03:38PM

emergingstar wrote: »

There is enough DM's out there that we should def make a signing in January

No excuses

Surely the majority of fans must know by now that Wenger will gamble on coq coming back in mid jan / early Feb. There's no way he'll buy a DM to plug that gap.

However coq may/will not be back until it's too late and we'll have squandered the best chance in years to win the league.

I'm being negative I know but this has happened so many times before.

Irish Aris · 23-11-2015 03:39PM

shano_88 wrote: »

Hinted at Chambers getting a chance at dmf today pressers according to Arseblog. Not sure how keen I would be on that but I guess this time last year, Coq wasn't even a squad player for us so things can change very quickly.

It's apparent now that Arteta can't be relied upon which is disappointing so I really can't see how we don't purchase a defensive midfielder in January. I agree, forget about the money, pay the extra premium because the league is wide open this year and one really good acquisition in January could be the difference.

I would be very concern having Chambers there, as he has never been tried before.
Has he played as DM at Southampton?

shano_88 · 23-11-2015 03:53PM

Irish Aris wrote: »

I would be very concern having Chambers there, as he has never been tried before.
Has he played as DM at Southampton?

He's played there once or twice for us and didn't perform very well. I don't know about Southampton but I don't think so. Might have played there in reserve games I guess.

I'd have the same reservations but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

JustTheOne · 23-11-2015 03:57PM

Irish Aris wrote: »

I would be very concern having Chambers there, as he has never been tried before.
Has he played as DM at Southampton?

He played there last season and it was a disaster.

keano_afc · 23-11-2015 03:57PM

emergingstar wrote: »

There is enough DM's out there that we should def make a signing in January

No excuses

There were plenty in the summer. I'll be surprised if we see anyone come in.

tayto lover · 23-11-2015 04:08PM

gosplan wrote: »

It's what Wenger does next that counts.

People wanted ANY upgrade on Arteta and Flamini but I don't buy that for a position that's nailed down. We were fine for DMF going into the season.

However what happens now is where we've always gone wrong.

If it is a few months, then Wenger needs to forget that Coq exists and spend whatever it takes to get the best DMF in the window. Historically, this is where we make do or shuffle people around. However a team with chanpionship aspirations wouldn't do that. Overspend now and deal with the selection headache later.

We were not fine at all.
Flamini cannot play every game as back-up for Coq.
Arteta should have been released/sold in the summer. He can't run at all now and is clearly past it. Sat was the final nail.
The rest of your post i agree with.

23-11-2015 04:56PM

In the summer, I was fine with no DM (although would have taken one). Over the course of the season, it has become clear that Arteta doesn't cut it, and Flamini can do a job, but that's about it.

Probably more chance of a DM than a striker in the January transfer window.

emergingstar · 23-11-2015 05:54PM

Only positive ( I no I no) is Ramsey back in middle where he will get goals and for me is our best midfielder

Pair him up with either Wilshere who wants to move back to a deep lying roll and buy somebody that works well with Ramsey's skill set

And I think we will be sorted

tayto lover · 23-11-2015 06:41PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Only positive ( I no I no) is Ramsey back in middle where he will get goals and for me is our best midfielder

Pair him up with either Wilshere who wants to move back to a deep lying roll and buy somebody that works well with Ramsey's skill set

And I think we will be sorted

Wenger talking about playing Chambers as a DM tomorrow night

Bobby Baccala · 23-11-2015 06:44PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Wenger talking about playing Chambers as a DM tomorrow night

That's the last thing we need

Mr Blobby · 23-11-2015 06:45PM

I'd like to see him play there.
He has all the attributes to be decent there. Pace,Strength,Defending and has decent enough feet.

He was ****e against Southampton but that was one match so it's not really fair to write him off just yet.

emergingstar · 23-11-2015 06:48PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Wenger talking about playing Chambers as a DM tomorrow night

He needs to talk him up good chance we will need him
There at some stage between now and Jan

tayto lover · 23-11-2015 06:49PM

Mr Blobby wrote: »

I'd like to see him play there.
He has all the attributes to be decent there. Pace,Strength,Defending and has decent enough feet.

He was ****e against Southampton but that was one match so it's not really fair to write him off just yet.

Well if he's s**** again tomorrow night we'd be out of the EPL.
Maybe try him in a home game against a team near the bottom for a half-hour or so at a time when we're on top. Ease him into it.

Fools rush in ....

Mr Blobby · 23-11-2015 07:17PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Well if he's s**** again tomorrow night we'd be out of the EPL.
Maybe try him in a home game against a team near the bottom for a half-hour or so at a time when we're on top. Ease him into it.

Fools rush in ....

I'd rather him be played tomorrow than in a league match. If we lose tomorrow then we're out. The damage was done ages ago so if we lose i won't have a huge impact compared to the league.

tayto lover · 23-11-2015 07:23PM

Mr Blobby wrote: »

I'd rather him be played tomorrow than in a league match. If we lose tomorrow then we're out. The damage was done ages ago so if we lose i won't have a huge impact compared to the league.

I wouldn't mind either but it seems to be a big thing to stay in the CL.
I feel that we never have a strong enough panel to win it anyway so what's the use?

shano_88 · 23-11-2015 07:26PM

You never know how things will work out. One good performance from Chambers at DM could see him build confidence and push on ala Coquelin.

It's far from ideal but who knows, he could step up.

Ol' Donie · 23-11-2015 08:23PM

shano_88 wrote: »

You never know how things will work out. One good performance from Chambers at DM could see him build confidence and push on ala Coquelin.

It's far from ideal but who knows, he could step up.

Was thinking this myself.

Then I slapped myself in the face for getting sucked in again.

And then I started thinking it again.

Sigh.

Ah, come on lads, we'll bait these Dynamo heads. Defo.

emmetlego · 23-11-2015 08:32PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Was thinking this myself.

Ah, come on lads, we'll bait these Dynamo heads. Defo.

I sincerely hope so!!!

I'll do more than self-face-slap if we don't!!! Good to see Aaron back really.

tayto lover · 23-11-2015 08:38PM

emmetlego wrote: »

I sincerely hope so!!!

I'll do more than self-face-slap if we don't!!! Good to see Aaron back really.

It's hard to know why Ramsey didn't come on against WBA.
How much difference can 3 extra days make?
Hope he's not rusty as he usually is when he returns. Takes a couple of games to get into it.

emmetlego · 23-11-2015 09:21PM

tayto lover wrote: »

It's hard to know why Ramsey didn't come on against WBA.
How much difference can 3 extra days make?
Hope he's not rusty as he usually is when he returns. Takes a couple of games to get into it.

The extra few days can make a big difference believe it or not!

DarraghF197 · 23-11-2015 09:40PM

tayto lover wrote: »

It's hard to know why Ramsey didn't come on against WBA.
How much difference can 3 extra days make?
Hope he's not rusty as he usually is when he returns. Takes a couple of games to get into it.

Do you think he'll start against Zagreb? I'm all for keeping Champions League hopes alive, but a lot of our players need a break, so I wouldn't mind seeing a sub-par Arsenal team, excluding Sanchez, Koscielny, Ramsey and maybe one or two others. It's bloody Zagreb like!

tayto lover · 23-11-2015 09:50PM

DarraghF197 wrote: »

Do you think he'll start against Zagreb? I'm all for keeping Champions League hopes alive, but a lot of our players need a break, so I wouldn't mind seeing a sub-par Arsenal team, excluding Sanchez, Koscielny, Ramsey and maybe one or two others. It's bloody Zagreb like!

Can't really see Ramsey starting. Last 20 mins. Flamini will start or maybe even Chambers as Wenger hinted at. It all depends on how Wenger feels about this game.

23-11-2015 10:05PM

If Chambers starts ahead of Flamini can we all come to the mutual acceptance that Flamini is clearly not acceptable back up?

wonga77 · 23-11-2015 10:11PM

Would a draw *cough cough* be enough to finish bottom? Winning tomorrow (assuming Bayern beat Olympiakos too) means we will have to win in Greece on the final day which is a very tall order
If we make the Europa league then we're fcuked as we dont have the squad numbers for a decent run in that

L'prof · 24-11-2015 07:20AM

Only team in top 10 not to have won it!

bad2dabone · 24-11-2015 07:52AM

Did you see after Wenger discussed doping controls, which are a joke in football, ten UEFA testers turned up at Colney to test the team. You couldn't make it up

greendom · 24-11-2015 09:43AM

wonga77 wrote: »

Would a draw *cough cough* be enough to finish bottom? Winning tomorrow (assuming Bayern beat Olympiakos too) means we will have to win in Greece on the final day which is a very tall order
If we make the Europa league then we're fcuked as we dont have the squad numbers for a decent run in that

Yes Sheffield Weds showed that our squad is not good enough

24-11-2015 10:26AM

greendom wrote: »

Yes Sheffield Weds showed that our squad is not good enough

That match showed that the Wednesday team on that night played better than the arsenal team did.

The team arsenal put out should have been good enough to win.

MaxPower89 · 24-11-2015 11:15AM

Not sure about Chambers at DM, does he have the close control or quickness of thinking required? Could see him getting caught out a few times. It will be Flamini most of the time, with some sort of double pivot when he cant play.

I'll guess the team.

Cech
Bellerin Gabriel Mert Monreal
Ramsey Flamini Cazorla Alexis
Ozil Giroud

Ramsey and Gabriel the only calls I think, maybe he might go with Campbell.

I wonder would Gnabry have been better than Campbell for us.

Ken Shamrock · 24-11-2015 11:19AM

MaxPower89 wrote: »

Not sure about Chambers at DM, does he have the close control or quickness of thinking required? Could see him getting caught out a few times. It will be Flamini most of the time, with some sort of double pivot when he cant play.

I'll guess the team.

Cech
Bellerin Gabriel Mert Monreal
Ramsey Flamini Cazorla Alexis
Ozil Giroud

Ramsey and Gabriel the only calls I think, maybe he might go with Campbell.

I wonder would Gnabry have been better than Campbell for us.

I would be better than Campbell for us...:pac:

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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